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JoBo2756

Hey Gang,

Love the news on Triple J!

Wanted to see if this is going to be a problem for Lockett this year, or if we should be in good shape? With this rule, Lockett wouldn't be able to play at MU from what I understand about his situation right?

See link: http://espn.go.com/college-sports/story/_/id/8584690/ncaa-putting-restriction-athletes-want-play-immediately-transferring

I'm guessing since he was already granted the transfer, we should be fine, but wanted to get the groups thoughts. ?-(



Skitch

I don't really think they can go back and retroactively change the rule.  I would assume that this would start next season at the earliest.

spartan3186

I'm pretty sure it wouldn't matter anyway. Lockett graduated from ASU and is (presumably) pursuing a Masters in something they didn't have at ASU. Same thing Paulus did when he graduated from Duke and played QB at Syracuse.

JoBo2756

Gotcha. I was under the impression that his Mom had an extended illness that allowed him to transfer to MU. I think he is from Minnesota right?

chapman

Quote from: spartan3186 on November 03, 2012, 11:02:00 PM
I'm pretty sure it wouldn't matter anyway. Lockett graduated from ASU and is (presumably) pursuing a Masters in something they didn't have at ASU. Same thing Paulus did when he graduated from Duke and played QB at Syracuse.

Yep, until they change the graduation rule, being closer to family was a factor for Lockett but wasn't necessary for the NCAA.  A lot of coaches apparently think they should change this as well, though I'm a fan of rewarding players who graduate, especially if it's a situation like Lockett where it only took three years.

Benny B

Quote from: chapman on November 04, 2012, 12:23:44 AM
Yep, until they change the graduation rule, being closer to family was a factor for Lockett but wasn't necessary for the NCAA.  A lot of coaches apparently think they should change this as well, though I'm a fan of rewarding players who graduate, especially if it's a situation like Lockett where it only took three years.

Agreed. NCAA doesn't need to be in the business of telling student athletes their business once they graduate.  If you earn a bachelors and still have eligibility left, you should have the right to enroll & play anywhere you want.
Quote from: LittleMurs on January 08, 2015, 07:10:33 PM
Wow, I'm very concerned for Benny.  Being able to mimic Myron Medcalf's writing so closely implies an oncoming case of dementia.

GGGG

The NCAA instituted this rule because before it was done on a case-by-case basis.  Now it is a rule that everyone understands.  The only issue I have is that there are some places in this country where there isn't a D1 or D2 within 100 miles.  I mean, what if you are a hockey player from Eagle River???

brewcity77

I would hope they'd make an exception. I'm sure within the next couple years that situation will come up.

bilsu

Quote from: JoBo2756 on November 03, 2012, 11:03:43 PM
Gotcha. I was under the impression that his Mom had an extended illness that allowed him to transfer to MU. I think he is from Minnesota right?
He liked Arizona St and would have stayed there, if his mon was healthly.

MerrittsMustache

Quote from: The Sultan of South Wayne on November 04, 2012, 07:37:14 AM
The NCAA instituted this rule because before it was done on a case-by-case basis.  Now it is a rule that everyone understands.  The only issue I have is that there are some places in this country where there isn't a D1 or D2 within 100 miles.  I mean, what if you are a hockey player from Eagle River???

It's good to have a black and white rule, but doesn't this open the door to families moving from, say, California to Lexington so that the son can transfer from to Kentucky to play basketball? Not saying it would be all that likely, but some families may move a sick relative if they think that a son bettering his chances to play professionally would help with the bills.

Also, what constitutes being "ailing or injured"?

I really do like the concept of the rule but maybe I'm just too cynical to think it won't be abused somehow.


bilsu

I just do not see the need for the rule itself. Players should have to sit out the year no matter what. It seems to me that a player sitting out a year would have more time to spend with a sick relative then one that would be allowed to play right away.

Benny B

Quote from: The Sultan of South Wayne on November 04, 2012, 07:37:14 AM
The NCAA instituted this rule because before it was done on a case-by-case basis.  Now it is a rule that everyone understands.  The only issue I have is that there are some places in this country where there isn't a D1 or D2 within 100 miles.  I mean, what if you are a hockey player from Eagle River???

Or a fencer from Biloxi?  Or a skiier from Tampa?

Then either take a year off to spend with your family or keep playing where you are and hope that grammy doesn't die until after graduation.

Quote from: LittleMurs on January 08, 2015, 07:10:33 PM
Wow, I'm very concerned for Benny.  Being able to mimic Myron Medcalf's writing so closely implies an oncoming case of dementia.

Ellenson Guerrero

Coaches can coach immediately. Players should be able to play immediately.
"What we take for-granted, others pray for..." - Brent Williams 3/30/14

Dawson Rental

Quote from: AWegrzyn17 on November 04, 2012, 04:00:14 PM
Coaches can coach immediately. Players should be able to play immediately.

BINGO!
You actually have a degree from Marquette?

Quote from: muguru
No...and after reading many many psosts from people on this board that do...I have to say I'm MUCH better off, if this is the type of "intelligence" a degree from MU gets you. It sure is on full display I will say that.

Dawson Rental

Quote from: MerrittsMustache on November 04, 2012, 10:32:35 AM
It's good to have a black and white rule, but doesn't this open the door to families moving from, say, California to Lexington so that the son can transfer from to Kentucky to play basketball? Not saying it would be all that likely, but some families may move a sick relative if they think that a son bettering his chances to play professionally would help with the bills.

Also, what constitutes being "ailing or injured"?

I really do like the concept of the rule but maybe I'm just too cynical realistic to think it won't be abused somehow.



FIFY
You actually have a degree from Marquette?

Quote from: muguru
No...and after reading many many psosts from people on this board that do...I have to say I'm MUCH better off, if this is the type of "intelligence" a degree from MU gets you. It sure is on full display I will say that.

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