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real chili 83

Quote from: Dreadman24 on November 02, 2012, 02:00:44 PM
He wants to play right away. He is banking on Vander Blue entering the draft. That is the only way he will sign...

It took 55 minutes for the first troll post.  Hmmmm.  Must of been a beret festival going on in Madison at lunch on Friday.  Or a sale on Prius's.

Dawson Rental

Quote from: Rubie Q on November 02, 2012, 02:27:42 PM
Except there's really no benefit whatsoever to the recruit when he signs a national letter of intent.

Except an end to the otherwise endless phone calls.  I expect that he will still be hearing from Alabama regularly. 
You actually have a degree from Marquette?

Quote from: muguru
No...and after reading many many psosts from people on this board that do...I have to say I'm MUCH better off, if this is the type of "intelligence" a degree from MU gets you. It sure is on full display I will say that.

GGGG

Quote from: Daniel on November 02, 2012, 10:56:57 PM
With a coaching change, he'd be releasssed from his NLOI.  So that cannot be an issue

Most likely yes, but it isn't a guaranty that MU would do so.

Dawson Rental

Quote from: The Sultan of South Wayne on November 02, 2012, 02:20:52 PM

I don't think I am a conspiracy theorist, but what if he is simply hedging his bets to make sure that Buzz & crew are still here?  What if he really wants to play at Memphis and is simply keeping his options open?  Everyone knows that MU will hold a spot for him - I'm actually surprised that more kids don't choose this option. 

Then he should commit, Memphis is still recruiting at the SG position.  If he's holding out hope for anyone it'd be NC or Duke.  But, I really think that he's helping work the scholarship thing out.
You actually have a degree from Marquette?

Quote from: muguru
No...and after reading many many psosts from people on this board that do...I have to say I'm MUCH better off, if this is the type of "intelligence" a degree from MU gets you. It sure is on full display I will say that.

Pakuni

If only someone had thought to ask JuJuan why he was planning to wait until spring before signing. Then we would know whether it was concern about Buzz leaving or waiting to see if Vander was going pro.

Oh, wait:

Although it looks like Johnson is planning to make his decision before the early signing period in November, he wants to wait until the spring before he signs his letter of intent.
"I'm just going to commit," he said. "I don't think I'm going to sign until the spring because I've seen the teams practice, but I really haven't seen them play. I want to see them play, so I can see myself in the system."

http://insider.espn.go.com/blog/ncbrecruiting/on-the-trail/post/_/id/3141/sg-jajuan-johnson-targets-decision-date

And:

Johnson originally was planning on waiting until the spring period to sign his national letter of intent. Shaun said that was the case because he still wanted to see how the coaches coached and the players played.
However, the official visit brought most of that to light, and Shaun said it's no longer guaranteed that Jajuan will wait to sign. The family will sit down and talk about that decision next week.
"If he wants to sign, I'm 100 percent behind him."

http://painttouches.com/2012/11/02/thanks-to-efforts-from-chew-jajuan-johnson-lands-at-marquette/

Now carry on with the feckless speculation.

Dawson Rental

Quote from: Pakuni on November 03, 2012, 05:23:00 PM
If only someone had thought to ask JuJuan why he was planning to wait until spring before signing. Then we would know whether it was concern about Buzz leaving or waiting to see if Vander was going pro.

Oh, wait:

Although it looks like Johnson is planning to make his decision before the early signing period in November, he wants to wait until the spring before he signs his letter of intent.
"I'm just going to commit," he said. "I don't think I'm going to sign until the spring because I've seen the teams practice, but I really haven't seen them play. I want to see them play, so I can see myself in the system."

http://insider.espn.go.com/blog/ncbrecruiting/on-the-trail/post/_/id/3141/sg-jajuan-johnson-targets-decision-date

And:

Johnson originally was planning on waiting until the spring period to sign his national letter of intent. Shaun said that was the case because he still wanted to see how the coaches coached and the players played.
However, the official visit brought most of that to light, and Shaun said it's no longer guaranteed that Jajuan will wait to sign. The family will sit down and talk about that decision next week.
"If he wants to sign, I'm 100 percent behind him."

http://painttouches.com/2012/11/02/thanks-to-efforts-from-chew-jajuan-johnson-lands-at-marquette/

Now carry on with the feckless speculation.

I came late to the PaintTouches party.  I just read that.  Great to know that an early signing is now possible.
You actually have a degree from Marquette?

Quote from: muguru
No...and after reading many many psosts from people on this board that do...I have to say I'm MUCH better off, if this is the type of "intelligence" a degree from MU gets you. It sure is on full display I will say that.

The Process

Quote from: LittleMurs on November 03, 2012, 05:27:04 PM
I came late to the PaintTouches party.  I just read that.  Great to know that an early signing is now possible.

So let's say Embiid also wants to join the party at MU and wants to sign in the early period.  Can both of them sign now or does one of them have to wait until the spring based on the number MU would have committed to for schollies for next year at this point in time?

If one of them does have to wait til the spring, which one would be the one to wait, assuming JJJ does want to sign early as well?
Relax. Respect the Process.

GGGG

The question is whether or not Otule is "official" for next year.  If not, they both could sign.

brewcity77

I believe they could all sign as Otule's situation won't be finalized until after the season and McKay doesn't actually have to sign anything.

real chili 83

Quote from: brewcity77 on November 03, 2012, 07:37:44 PM
I believe they could all sign as Otule's situation won't be finalized until after the season and McKay doesn't actually have to sign anything.

Didn't someone this fall catch Buzz saying it was up to CO to play next year....implying he's approved for a 6th year.

The Process

And this is why I ask these questions - people way more informed/smarter than me (Brew/Sultan/Real Chili) have answers! ;D ;D
Relax. Respect the Process.

GGGG

Quote from: real chili 83 on November 03, 2012, 07:43:02 PM
Didn't someone this fall catch Buzz saying it was up to CO to play next year....implying he's approved for a 6th year.


That is why I put "official" in quotes.  I don't exactly know the status, but he is listed as a redshirt senior on the roster and to get a sixth year, you have to wait until your eligibility is used up - at least according to everything that I have read. 

real chili 83

Quote from: The Sultan of South Wayne on November 03, 2012, 08:06:26 PM

That is why I put "official" in quotes.  I don't exactly know the status, but he is listed as a redshirt senior on the roster and to get a sixth year, you have to wait until your eligibility is used up - at least according to everything that I have read. 

Thanks.  You've been on point with that premise all along.

Perhaps our scoop expert, Jaybee can weigh in.

4everwarriors

Nah man, it's Saturday night and BeeJay's bustin' a move on some hot stuff, listenin' to Donna Summer at Disco Don's in the Twin Cities.
"Give 'Em Hell, Al"

brewcity77

Quote from: real chili 83 on November 03, 2012, 07:43:02 PM
Didn't someone this fall catch Buzz saying it was up to CO to play next year....implying he's approved for a 6th year.

Buzz indicated that as far back as the regular season last year, but Otule himself said he's already been approved this past month. He graduates in December, so he'll be taking graduate classes starting in spring and if he continues into 2013-14. Personal opinion, I really think Chris will be back. I have no idea how things will shake out otherwise, but unless he suffers another injury, I see him suiting up in the blue and gold again next year.

real chili 83

1st Avenue, no doubt.  Doing a duet with Prince.

real chili 83

Quote from: brewcity77 on November 03, 2012, 08:37:01 PM
Buzz indicated that as far back as the regular season last year, but Otule himself said he's already been approved this past month. He graduates in December, so he'll be taking graduate classes starting in spring and if he continues into 2013-14. Personal opinion, I really think Chris will be back. I have no idea how things will shake out otherwise, but unless he suffers another injury, I see him suiting up in the blue and gold again next year.

Technically speaking, does "qualified" mean he's been officially offers a scholarship?  That brings up another question.  Do current players sign a NLI each year?  If that's the case, if CO hasn't signed the NLI for year 6, does this give MU the wiggle room it needs for JoJo?

Jay Bee

Chris playing in 2013-14 shouldn't be an issue if both MU and he want him to play... I think you'd be crazy to not have him stay another year, but I guess we'll see how this year goes. Lots of great players want to suit up for the Warriors... not the worst problem in the world to have. [scholarship/financial aid papers are generally signed once a year, for a year]

No Donna Summer for me yet tonight.. I've been in gyms all day. Scouts Focus camp & Hardwood Elite/MN Pump N Run (which is the same name as a technique I have mastered)...

Watched Bronson Koenig a bit again today.. have seen him plenty.. but, I would say this - he's adding strength.. Wisconsin won't be fretting about their PG situation next year.

There are some younger kids in and around the Twin Cities that I _really_ like (besides the super obvious)..

The portal is NOT closed.

GGGG

Quote from: brewcity77 on November 03, 2012, 08:37:01 PM
Buzz indicated that as far back as the regular season last year, but Otule himself said he's already been approved this past month.


Ah...forgot about that.  But again, is it "official."  (ie, does he count toward next year's scholarship limits yet.)

Dawson Rental

Now that we've shown that MU can out recruit Alabama, is it time to revisit adding football?
You actually have a degree from Marquette?

Quote from: muguru
No...and after reading many many psosts from people on this board that do...I have to say I'm MUCH better off, if this is the type of "intelligence" a degree from MU gets you. It sure is on full display I will say that.

Dr. Blackheart

Quote from: The Sultan of South Wayne on November 03, 2012, 08:51:27 PM

Ah...forgot about that.  But again, is it "official."  (ie, does he count toward next year's scholarship limits yet.)

Scholarships are renewed yearly.  Buzz said at Media Day that Otule has all the medical documentation needed that will get him another year.  He did then add he has not officially been granted the waiver yet (as it has to come after the season).  Remember that MU has Compliance staff who worked at the NCAA.  Very buttoned up.

Dreadman24

Quote from: Dreadman24 on November 02, 2012, 02:00:44 PM
He wants to play right away. He is banking on Vander Blue entering the draft. That is the only way he will sign...

I told you guys this 5 months ago and I was either ignored or bashed! ha

I Know 100% the ONLY way JJJ was gonna sign was if Vander entered the draft!

JaJaun is the real deal and wants to/will start at Shooting Gaurd next year. He will leave for the draft prolly after his Sophomore year, He is that good. I live in Memphis and seen him play a ton of times.


Markusquette

Quote from: Dreadman24 on April 09, 2013, 10:59:38 PM
I told you guys this 5 months ago and I was either ignored or bashed! ha

I Know 100% the ONLY way JJJ was gonna sign was if Vander entered the draft!

JaJaun is the real deal and wants to/will start at Shooting Gaurd next year. He will leave for the draft prolly after his Sophomore year, He is that good. I live in Memphis and seen him play a ton of times.


Jajuan definitely looks to be the real deal.  Athletic, shooter, good height for sg.  Can you talk a bit more about his game and your comparisons and expectations for him this coming year?

AZWarrior

Quote from: Dreadman24 on April 09, 2013, 10:59:38 PM
I told you guys this 5 months ago and I was either ignored or bashed! ha

I Know 100% the ONLY way JJJ was gonna sign was if Vander entered the draft!

JaJaun is the real deal and wants to/will start at Shooting Gaurd next year. He will leave for the draft prolly after his Sophomore year, He is that good. I live in Memphis and seen him play a ton of times.

JJJ can still start at SG if Vander remains with the team.  If Vander is playing PG, no conflict is present.  I believe Vander's NBA position is PG, and I expect Buzz and Vander realize this as well. 
All this talk of rights.  So little talk of responsibilities.

AirPunches

Quote from: AZWarrior on April 09, 2013, 11:17:08 PM
JJJ can still start at SG if Vander remains with the team.  If Vander is playing PG, no conflict is present.  I believe Vander's NBA position is PG, and I expect Buzz and Vander realize this as well. 

I'm starting to think this will be what is going to happen. I've seen Duane multiple times and in my honest opinion I don't think he's ready to be the starting point guard. A kid at his age can make huge strides in a summer though so we will see. But as of today, I don't think he's ready to take over the point. It's hard for me to say Jujuan will start as I've never seen him play live but I think he does expect to play immediately and would be very upset if he wasn't getting major minutes right away.

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