2012 NFC North/NFL Thread

[RJax55]

I heard a 1st and 7th and a 4th next year.  How in the hell is that guy worth a 1st round pick? Stupid trade by the seahawks

Harvin is a really talented guy. He was having a terrific season last year, before getting injury. When healthy, I definitely think he is worth a first-rounder.

Anyways, if the Vikes can sign Mike Wallace, this could be a really nice trade for them.

[DegenerateDish]

Love this trade for Vikings, outstanding move.

I think they'll sign Jennings now, and will have draft ammo. Really good move on their part.

[MerrittsMustache]

Love this trade for Vikings, outstanding move.

I think they'll sign Jennings now, and will have draft ammo. Really good move on their part.

Jennings claims that QB will be a big part in his decision-making. That would rule out Minnesota...unless he's (gasp!) just going to take the money.

[NavinRJohnson]

Love this trade for Vikings, outstanding move.

I think they'll sign Jennings now, and will have draft ammo. Really good move on their part.

Seems like a good move for both. I have to believe Seattle may look to trade Flynn and get a pick or two back as well.

[Canned Goods n Ammo]

Harvin is REALLY good.

You just can't think of him as a "traditional" receiver.

He can play several positions and can score in the return game.

He's never going to have Megatron numbers, but he has a lot of value because he provides coordinators a lot of flexibility.

With this said, the guy hasn't been a model citizen, and was allegedly causing "issues" all season on the Vikes.

IF the Vikes can sign a good FA receiver, then this was a great move. They get to replace Harvin in free agency and get to upgrade another position with the draft.

IF they just expect to replace Percy in the draft, then it's a questionable deal... but given Harvin's issues, it might have been the best thing they could do.

[Hards Alumni]

Harvin is REALLY good.

You just can't think of him as a "traditional" receiver.

He can play several positions and can score in the return game.

He's never going to have Megatron numbers, but he has a lot of value because he provides coordinators a lot of flexibility.

With this said, the guy hasn't been a model citizen, and was allegedly causing "issues" all season on the Vikes.

IF the Vikes can sign a good FA receiver, then this was a great move. They get to replace Harvin in free agency and get to upgrade another position with the draft.

IF they just expect to replace Percy in the draft, then it's a questionable deal... but given Harvin's issues, it might have been the best thing they could do.

Vikes did themselves a favor.  They sold really high on a guy who can't make it through an entire NFL season.

[MU B2002]

Vikes did themselves a favor.  They sold really high on a guy who can't make it through an entire NFL season.

Better weed on the West Coast, he will probably be fine this season.

[Canned Goods n Ammo]

Vikes did themselves a favor.  They sold really high on a guy who can't make it through an entire NFL season.

Yes, a 1st rounder + additional is pretty high price, so it's a good move for the Vikes.

But, if he's happy and healthy, he's REALLY good.

I'd actually be more worried about giving him a big contract. I think he is worth a first rd. pick, but 2 or 3 years from now, he might not be worth the money they give him.

[Pakuni]

Vikes did themselves a favor.  They sold really high on a guy who can't make it through an entire NFL season.

Harvin missed three whole games his first three years. Last year was the only one in which he missed significant time.
Good trade for both teams. The Vikings got excellent return on a guy they didn't want to pay, and the Seahawks got someone who could put them over the top, and is almost certainly a much better/immediately impactful player than they would have obtained at #25 in the draft. Wilson+Beast Mode+Harvin = potentially scary offense.

[SaintPaulWarrior]

Harvin played 9 games and led the team in receptions and receiving yards this past year.  TE Rudolph was 2nd.  They better find a WR.

[wadesworld]

Harvin played 9 games and led the team in receptions and receiving yards this past year.  TE Rudolph was 2nd.  They better find a WR.

Bingo.  That's pathetic.  Didn't they go an entire game against the Packers this year without having a wide receiver catch a pass?  Or was that the Bears?  I think it was a divisional opponent.

[jesmu84]

Did SF get scared by the Harvin trade, so they went right out and got Boldin??

[🏀]

Arms race in the NFC West.

49ers and Seahawks both looking better on paper than the Packers.

Still not expecting anything from Ted Thompson.

[jesmu84]

How's the GB financial situation? Bears have relatively no money to spend.

[SaintPaulWarrior]

Harvin is a really talented guy. He was having a terrific season last year, before getting injury. When healthy, I definitely think he is worth a first-rounder.

Anyways, if the Vikes can sign Mike Wallace, this could be a really nice trade for them.

Looks like Wallace is signing with the Dolphins.

[Spotcheck Billy]

If the Vikes sign Jennings they won't have any WR to speak of when/if Jennings gets hurt unless they draft well.

[MerrittsMustache]

Did SF get scared by the Harvin trade, so they went right out and got Boldin??

SF wanted a big, physical WR to team with Crabtree, Manningham and Davis. They took a flyer on Moss last season but didn't get great production. Boldin could end up being a steal but it may cost them Delanie Walker.

[GGGG]

How's the GB financial situation? Bears have relatively no money to spend.

Right now they have about $20M in cap spade.  My guess is that they are going to use much of that to try to get extensions from Matthews, Raji, Jones and Rodgers.  They do have room to take a flyer on a free agent if they think they can get value.  But you know how Thompson thinks.

[DegenerateDish]

Some quick hits before the madness starts at 3...

-If you haven't heard this yet, listen to it now, pure awesome.

http://deadspin.com/pranksters-record-two-nfl-gms-discussing-free-agency-ov-452366184

-Still really impressed what the Vikings did yesterday. They sold Harvin at the absolute perfect time. Once 3pm hits today, his trade value would have gone way down. If they get Jennings or tender Cruz, it will shape up as an outstanding deal for them.

-Can't see Bears or Packers doing too much in free agency, hearing same thing from people. Both teams are historically very good at managing the cap (Cliff Stein is really good at what he does). Neither team will look to tackle short term issues with long term nightmares.

-Some FA predictions. Wallace winds up in Cleveland, Jake Long in St. Louis, Jennings in Miami, Victor Cruz in Minny.

[MU B2002]

Some quick hits before the madness starts at 3...

-If you haven't heard this yet, listen to it now, pure awesome.

http://deadspin.com/pranksters-record-two-nfl-gms-discussing-free-agency-ov-452366184

-Some FA predictions. Wallace winds up in Cleveland, Jake Long in St. Louis, Jennings in Miami, Victor Cruz in Minny.

I can't see how that phone prank is legal.


And I hope you are wrong about Cruz in Minny.  I saw they resigned Simpson today.

[DegenerateDish]

Vikes release Winfield. Have heard Bears will be in contact with him right at 3pm (Bears have huge interest in him, pending $).

[SaintPaulWarrior]

According to two sources, the straw that broke the Vikings' back with Harvin is when he bemoaned the fact that quarterback Christian Ponder, a 2011 first-round pick, was not good enough. That came even though Ponder consistently fed Harvin the ball.

Good stuff.

http://blogs.citypages.com/blotter/2013/03/percy_reportedly_wanted_out_of_minnesota_after_it_become_clear_ponder_was_not_good_enough.php

[DegenerateDish]

Bears agree to terms with Martellus Bennet, will sign this evening.

[MerrittsMustache]

Bears agree to terms with Martellus Bennet, will sign this evening.

A year too late is better than not at all!

[jesmu84]

Bears agree to terms with Martellus Bennet, will sign this evening.

A sign that there will be no TE in the early draft rounds, surely. Seems offensive line in the draft really will be a priority. Maybe LB as well.