2012 NFC North/NFL Thread

[GGGG]

Lott was nowhere near as flexible as Butler in terms of what he was asked to do on the field.  He could hit (1113 tackles) and defend passes (63 INTs) better than Butler, and you could argue that this is primarily what a safety is asked to do, but the Packers used Butler in very unique ways as a pass rusher.  Neither Atwater nor Lott played that type of game.  

Atwater and Butler were first team all decade in the 90s FWIW.

[GGGG]

Perhaps you're right... I guess I'm somewhat distracted by the fact that he could potentially be seen an ambassador for the Packers outside of football, with the whole dancing thing and all, and that might add "prestige" to the organization by having his name up there.  Not the greatest example, but is Gerald Ford in the Michigan Sports Hall of Fame because he was a superstar at UM or because he was POTUS.  Is Golda's school named for her because of her MPS teaching career or because of her contributions/accomplishments 12,000 miles away?

Granted, DWTS is not quite the same level as being the head of state (maybe in some countries), but as far as popularity goes outside of Wisconsin, DD's probably the most recognizable Packer to never win an MVP in today's mainstream.  But still, I'm getting on board with the idea that DD isn't going in the ring... unless he turns evil and becomes Supreme Emperor someday.

I hear where you are coming from, but Gerald Ford was a Collegiate All-Star.  He didn't go pro because he went to Yale Law School.

[jmayer1]

Lott was nowhere near as flexible as Butler in terms of what he was asked to do on the field.  He could hit (1113 tackles) and defend passes (63 INTs) better than Butler, and you could argue that this is primarily what a safety is asked to do, but the Packers used Butler in very unique ways as a pass rusher.  Neither Atwater nor Lott played that type of game.  

Atwater and Butler were first team all decade in the 90s FWIW.

I would say being able to play both the pass and the run equally adept would make a safety flexible. If you want to say that being flexible as a safety requires that you rush the passer as well, you won't find many (if any) guys in Butler's league in terms of that regard; however not sure why you would use Ed Reed as an example of a current player that Butler was a forerunner to though as they are not at all similar in that regard.

[GGGG]

I would say being able to play both the pass and the run equally adept would make a safety flexible. If you want to say that being flexible as a safety requires that you rush the passer as well, you won't find many (if any) guys in Butler's league in terms of that regard; however not sure why you would use Ed Reed as an example of a current player that Butler was a forerunner to though as they are not at all similar in that regard.

Agreed.  It was a poor example on my part.

[wadesworld]

Shocking that the 49ers and Ravens would get into a scrum. Teams full of thugs coached by 2 big douches.

[4everwarriors]

Wonder if Crean didn't stick his finger in an electrical socket?

[ATL MU Warrior]

Wonder if Crean didn't stick his finger in an electrical socket?

his portable tanning bed overloaded the circuit. 

[4everwarriors]

Anyone else wanna bitch slap Jim Harbaugh?

[wadesworld]

Anyone else wanna bitch slap Jim Harbaugh?

Every time I watch the 9ers I do.

[4everwarriors]

Should make for a classic post game handshake.

[MerrittsMustache]

Great game to watch (especially if you had no real rooting interest) but it's a shame that the two things people will remember most will be the lights going out and the horrific non-call on the 49ers' final play.

[MU B2002]

Great game to watch (especially if you had no real rooting interest) but it's a shame that the two things people will remember most will be the lights going out and the horrific non-call on the 49ers' final play.

And Cary Williams 2 handed shove of an official with no penalty. 

[MerrittsMustache]

And Cary Williams 2 handed shove of an official with no penalty. 

The refs let A LOT go in terms of the scraps that took place during the game. Very early on #97 (Jones?) for Baltimore punched Staley in the facemask as the ref was separating them and nothing was called. I really have no problem with the refs letting stuff like that go in the Super Bowl especially because they tend to only see the guy who hits back, not the guy who provoked him (admittedly I have no idea what Staley did, if anything). I just have no idea how you can watch a DB grab a WR with two hands and not let go but throw no flag.

[wadesworld]

http://www.freep.com/usatoday/article/1897131&usatref=sportsmod?odyssey=mod%7Cnewswell%7Ctext%7CSports%7Cp

Shocking...

[DegenerateDish]

http://www.freep.com/usatoday/article/1897131&usatref=sportsmod?odyssey=mod%7Cnewswell%7Ctext%7CSports%7Cp

Shocking...

Probably in line for biggest "who gives a f" of the year.

[MU B2002]

I think I like him even more now.


Why on earth would any football fan care about the manner in which Jay proposed?
I guess the bagging on Cutler is still going to be stylish for the media this offseason.

[Sir Lawrence]

While he loses points on romance, he picks up points on efficiency. 
Hope he has a pre-nup.

[Warriors10]

What else do writers in Detroit have to write about?

[Hards Alumni]

What else do writers in Detroit have to write about?

Well for starters, the Detroit Tigers.

[akmarq]

Well for starters, the Detroit Tigers.

I hear their hockey team is decent too.

[Hards Alumni]

I hear their hockey team is decent too.

Hell yes they are.

[wadesworld]

http://m.espn.go.com/general/video?vid=8628297

Wow. Could never stand the guy and always thought he was a thug. Could not have been more wrong. Really awesome story.

E60, along with 30 For 30, is the show I most look forward to seeing on TV. They have some really cool stories that otherwise don't get shown.

[Pakuni]

Pending physical, the Vikings have traded Percy Harvin to Seattle for first- and seventh-round picks, maybe more.

[jesmu84]

http://espn.go.com/nfl/story/_/id/9040142/minnesota-vikings-trade-percy-harvin-seattle-seahawks-sources

wow. i thought percy not going to be traded?

[hairy worthen]

Pending physical, the Vikings have traded Percy Harvin to Seattle for first- and seventh-round picks, maybe more.

I heard a 1st and 7th and a 4th next year.  How in the hell is that guy worth a 1st round pick? Stupid trade by the seahawks