New Marquette App

[Spotcheck Billy]

buying Apple could lead to more deaths in China!

'Mass suicide' protest at Apple manufacturer Foxconn factory


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[TallTitan34]

GLAVIN!

[MUEng92]

So much for learning what the Marquette App does. I DLed it and opened it this morning, and all it is is a picture of someone studying. Is there any point to this app?

I downloaded it yesterday and tried it for 3 minutes.  To me, when you start it, it looks like it has the makings of an actual app.  However, after using it for 3 minutes, it seemed like it was just a cool top level interface that isactually just a bunch of shortcuts to the standard MU webpages.

Am I wrong?

[Farley36]

So much for learning what the Marquette App does. I DLed it and opened it this morning, and all it is is a picture of someone studying. Is there any point to this app?

As far as Apple v Android...about 3 years ago I bought an iPhone, had it for a week, returned it and had an Android for a week, then went back and got an iPhone. Both had pros and cons, but at least at that point, Apple was the clear leader and it wasn't remotely close. I was satisfied with my iPhone for just under 2 years and went out and bought a 4GS when it was time for a new phone without a second thought. I've been very happy with my iPhone ever since.

Maybe there are now positives to an Android, but I had numerous problems off the bat, from limited apps to worse reception and Internet accessibility to more dropped calls. And this was on an iPhone with AT&T (the only ones that had iPhone at the time). Maybe Android has caught up, but when I consider how good my iPhone has been to me, why change?

This leads me to another area of superiority for Apple imo.  With Apple you are always assured of a high quality product that will work extremely well and deliver at or beyond expectations.  With Android, there are a wide array of areas you need to research to get a product comparable to the iPhone.  Who is the manufacturer, how new is the model, which version of Android is it running, what has the manufacturer laid on top of the OS, etc...   None of those concerns with an iPhone.

[Farley36]

As an android "fanboy" I agree with all stated here except the bolded. I'd argue that it is now ios that is playing catch up with android. Outside of a much more robust app store what features does ios have that are more advanced than android? Don't say Siri. Also, the ios ui is far from elegant. Unified across the board? Yes. Elegant? No.

Maybe you're right if you're among the 5% of Android users who have ice cream sandwhich.  I never have to worry with my iPhone that I will have the latest version of iOS.

[Farley36]

Apple is losing by a huge margin to Android.  Not sure what planet you live on?

I guess Apple is losing when you look at total market share.  However, a lot of Androids market share is low end phones, prepaid phones, etc..  Not sure the profit margin on those but my guess is low.  Apple is clearly winning in the tablet market.  They are also winning this year in the phone market based on overall growth of sales this year.  Apple is certainly winning from a profitiability stand point.  Apple shareholders are winning whne you look at stock price.  Apple is winning in the court of public interest when you see how heavily covered each of their releases is by the media.  They are winning when you look at overall interest in what the next version of the iPhone or iPad will be (no one seems to care about the next version of Android phones).  

[Farley36]

One last point in Apple's favor and then I will stop unless I see some one else posting complete nonsense.  Admitedly this might only be a selling point for heavy Apple loyalists, but Apple does a great job of integrating all of your Apple devices and that looks like an even bigger focus with Mountain Lion and iOS6.  So for the people who question why you would ever buy a Mac or iPhone, one answer is that when I have multiple Apple devices I have an ecosystem that allows me to seemlessly share content, messages, etc.. from one device to another. 

[Skatastrophy]

One last point in Apple's favor and then I will stop unless I see some one else posting complete nonsense.  Admitedly this might only be a selling point for heavy Apple loyalists, but Apple does a great job of integrating all of your Apple devices and that looks like an even bigger focus with Mountain Lion and iOS6.  So for the people who question why you would ever buy a Mac or iPhone, one answer is that when I have multiple Apple devices I have an ecosystem that allows me to seemlessly share content, messages, etc.. from one device to another. 

You are quite possibly the biggest Apple fanboy on the muscoop forums.  Congratulations on your granny-smith colored glasses!  Only $599 with a 2 year contract

[nathanziarek]

buying Apple could lead to more deaths in China!

Foxconn is kinda big, counting Acer, Amazon.com, Apple, Cisco, Dell, Hewlett-Packard, Intel, Microsoft, Motorola, Nintendo, Nokia, Samsung Electronics, Sony, Toshiba and Vizio as customers.

That doesn't leave us with many techno-gadget vendors!

[Farley36]

You are quite possibly the biggest Apple fanboy on the muscoop forums.  Congratulations on your granny-smith colored glasses!  Only $599 with a 2 year contract

I definitely am a huge Apple fan.  I proudly have an iPhone 4S, iPad 2, Macbook, and iMac.  Love them all.  However, more than being a fanboy it's very interesting to me to watch Android fanboys.  First, they seem to think they are not just as bad as Apple fanboys.  They also seem to discount anything Apple does and refuse to recognize anything Apple does as innovative despite Apple's track record of being a game changing company.  Finally, they seem to have a very limited definition of what is innovative and what is valuable.  For instance, in this thread I've seen how the iPhone was an innovative game changer because:

1.  Blackberries and Palms could access the internet (did you ever try this before the iPhone?  it was a shitty experience)
2.  Touch screens were ripped off from microsoft (really?  I don't remember have a Microsoft touch screen device.  I guess there might have been some but they clearly had issues that prevented heavy adoption)

Let's see what the iPhone brought to market for the first time:
1.  An internet phone that actually gave you the internet in a way that was equivalent to PCs
2.  A touch screen not only that worked but one that used gestures intuitive to human nature
3.  Apps!  Seems like whatever I need now there is an app for that
4.  Integration of all my devices - no longer need my phone, iPod, GPS, camera, etc....  Why?  Because I have an iPhone

Not only did Apple innovate (even if some of that was improving on things already released) but they wrapped it all up in a package that looks great.   Do people feel cooler using Apple devices?   Sure, because they do look cool.  That doesn't take away from them being great products also.

Bottom line is I don't care what phone you use.  I'm sticking with Apple for now.  I am more than willing to admit Apple has issues.  Price is a big one.  They are expensive devices.  They don't have some cool features of Android (although I can say the reverse is true also).  I do find it interesting though that conversatiosn like this usually go the same way:

Android Fanboy - Apple sucks
Apple Fanboy - No true, here is what is great about Apple
Android Fanboy - Apple sucks because I'm a tech geek and they aren't as techy
Apple Fanboy - Well Apple is really innovative
Android Fanboy - No they aren't, Apple just steals stuff and brainwashes people into thinking it's new
Apple Fanboy - Well here are more reasons I like Apple
Android Fanboy - you're a hippy who wants to pretend to be cool

My point is that the conversation is always about Apple.  Even this thread is all about the pros and cons of Apple.  Like it or not, Apple is beginning and the end right now despite Android market share.  

[Skatastrophy]

I definitely am a huge Apple fan.  I proudly have an iPhone 4S, iPad 2, Macbook, and iMac.  Love them all.  However, more than being a fanboy it's very interesting to me to watch Android fanboys.  First, they seem to think they are not just as bad as Apple fanboys.  They also seem to discount anything Apple does and refuse to recognize anything Apple does as innovative despite Apple's track record of being a game changing company.  Finally, they seem to have a very limited definition of what is innovative and what is valuable.  For instance, in this thread I've seen how the iPhone was an innovative game changer because:

1.  Blackberries and Palms could access the internet (did you ever try this before the iPhone?  it was a crapty experience)
2.  Touch screens were ripped off from microsoft (really?  I don't remember have a Microsoft touch screen device.  I guess there might have been some but they clearly had issues that prevented heavy adoption)

Let's see what the iPhone brought to market for the first time:
1.  An internet phone that actually gave you the internet in a way that was equivalent to PCs
2.  A touch screen not only that worked but one that used gestures intuitive to human nature
3.  Apps!  Seems like whatever I need now there is an app for that
4.  Integration of all my devices - no longer need my phone, iPod, GPS, camera, etc....  Why?  Because I have an iPhone

Not only did Apple innovate (even if some of that was improving on things already released) but they wrapped it all up in a package that looks great.   Do people feel cooler using Apple devices?   Sure, because they do look cool.  That doesn't take away from them being great products also.

Bottom line is I don't care what phone you use.  I'm sticking with Apple for now.  I am more than willing to admit Apple has issues.  Price is a big one.  They are expensive devices.  They don't have some cool features of Android (although I can say the reverse is true also).  I do find it interesting though that conversatiosn like this usually go the same way:

Android Fanboy - Apple sucks
Apple Fanboy - No true, here is what is great about Apple
Android Fanboy - Apple sucks because I'm a tech geek and they aren't as techy
Apple Fanboy - Well Apple is really innovative
Android Fanboy - No they aren't, Apple just steals stuff and brainwashes people into thinking it's new
Apple Fanboy - Well here are more reasons I like Apple
Android Fanboy - you're a hippy who wants to pretend to be cool

My point is that the conversation is always about Apple.  Even this thread is all about the pros and cons of Apple.  Like it or not, Apple is beginning and the end right now despite Android market share. 

tl;dr.

You care so much more than anyone else in this thread about a brand name that it's ridiculous.  You realize that you're giving your undying loyalty to a company that's taking your money, right?

You haven't even posted once about basketball on a basketball forum, but you're butthurt over people politely discussing your favorite brand.  Sillyness.

[kryza]

tl;dr.

You care so much more than anyone else in this thread about a brand name that it's ridiculous.  You realize that you're giving your undying loyalty to a company that's taking your money, right?

You haven't even posted once about basketball on a basketball forum, but you're butthurt over people politely discussing your favorite brand.  Sillyness.

Seriously, we all do the same things on computers and portable media. We check email, write stuff, listen to music, play games, and watch videos. At the end of the day, this guy is just going to spend 100k more in his lifetime (according to a recent stats) in order to have an apple logo on all his electronics.

Do I own Apple products? Sure. Will I research all makes and brands before buying my next electronic? No doubt. Anyone that doesn't do that (fanboy or not) is just throwing away money.

[Spotcheck Billy]

Foxconn is kinda big, counting Acer, Amazon.com, Apple, Cisco, Dell, Hewlett-Packard, Intel, Microsoft, Motorola, Nintendo, Nokia, Samsung Electronics, Sony, Toshiba and Vizio as customers.

That doesn't leave us with many techno-gadget vendors!

you're no fun!

were you also the one reminding the teacher that he forgot to give out the assignment?

[chapman]

milelong hippie rambling

Which one is you, purple hair or purple pants?

[Hards Alumni]

I hope you enjoy driving a 1992 Ford Taurs and shopping at Aldi and Goodwill for the rest of your life.

haha not true.  But I can build my own car with Ford parts that will outlive and outperform and BMW.

[slingkong]

Wait...there are people out there who don't have Apple products?!?

Unfortunately, IT shops are starting to curse employees with crApple products. Mine does. I also have the disadvantage of now using AT&T as a carrier. Or not using them as a carrier because I have a signal near Boston only about 75% of the time and never at home or at work (which is nice). It's just not worth paying through the nose to Verizon to get rid of the work-paid phone.

[nathanziarek]

At the end of the day, this guy is just going to spend 100k more in his lifetime (according to a recent stats)

Huh?

[nathanziarek]

you're no fun!

If I had a nickel for every time I heard that!

[Skatastrophy]

Huh?

HE SAID THAT AT THE END OF THE DAY AN APPLE CUSTOMER IS GOING TO SPEND $100K MORE IN HIS LIFETIME.

[nathanziarek]

HE SAID THAT AT THE END OF THE DAY AN APPLE CUSTOMER IS GOING TO SPEND $100K MORE IN HIS LIFETIME.

THANKS. MY READING COMPREHENSION NO SO GOOD.

[Skatastrophy]

THANKS. MY READING COMPREHENSION NO SO GOOD.

[nathanziarek]

When we walk past the Apple store, sometimes we just "baah" at the sheeple for the fun of it.

IT shops are starting to curse employees with crApple products.

It's a good thing you guys don't blindly follow a technology or company—disregarding and degrading other products just because they're not the ones you enjoy—like those idiot Apple fanboys!

[GOO]

HE SAID THAT AT THE END OF THE DAY AN APPLE CUSTOMER IS GOING TO SPEND $100K MORE IN HIS LIFETIME.

And get 200K more use and pleasure from the Apple device, per recent stats*  * Ya, that is made up, just like the 100K stat is made up, unless you are a really really frequent replacer of tech.

Seriously, it is funny how hard to use some of the Andriod devices are... maybe the new jellybean or ice cream sandwich or whatever, is better, but with a low adoption rate, who knows.  Also, why is it that Apple users use many more features than Android users and dominate web traffic, etc.... because people can figure out how to use many features, etc.

When I got my 3G iphone when it first came out, I was blown away.  The care that went into the user end experience blew me away.  I stopped making fun of apple at that point and have come to appreciate what they deliver.  Hey, I have friends who still swear by Blackberry's, which I find odd, but to each his or her own.

[Benny B]

HE SAID THAT AT THE END OF THE DAY AN APPLE CUSTOMER IS GOING TO SPEND $100K MORE IN HIS LIFETIME.

THANKS. MY READING COMPREHENSION NO SO GOOD.

It's just disappointing that you both have already put significantly more effort into this than we have.

[Benny B]

And get 200K more use and pleasure from the Apple device, per recent stats*  * Ya, that is made up, just like the 100K stat is made up, unless your a really really frequent replacer of tech.

Seriously, it is funny how hard to use some of the Andriod devices are... maybe the new jellybean or ice cream sandwich or whatever, is better, but with a low adoption rate, who knows.  Also, why is it that Apple users use many more features than Android users and dominate web traffic, etc.... because people can figure out how to use many features, etc.

I think the "recent statistic" was that Apple users spend more than their non-Apple counterparts, period.  Part of this probably socio-economic in nature, part of it might be brand loyalty (or blindness as some have argued).  Whether that number is $100K, $200K or $200, I don't know, but the marketing/research data miners for Orbitz are already trying to capitalize on it.

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