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Report: Louisville wants out of the Big East

Started by MtAiryGoldenEagle, May 10, 2012, 03:58:44 PM

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Groin_pull

I'm sure they do. Just like UConn and Rutgers are dying to join the ACC. The current Big East is strictly a marriage of convenience. Schools are there because they currently have no where else to go. The Big East is on borrowed time. As soon as the next round of conference musical chairs begins, look for those schools to do all they can to escape. And they won't be the only ones. I'm sure Cincy and Memphis will try to join the Big XII...and Georgetown and Villanova will do whatever it takes to hook up with the ACC.   

Blackhat

Lets get it over with:

UNITE

Georgetown, Marquette, Villanova, St. Johns, Seton Hall, DePaul, Dayton, Xavier

NersEllenson

Quote from: Groin_pull on May 10, 2012, 04:15:18 PM
I'm sure they do. Just like UConn and Rutgers are dying to join the ACC. The current Big East is strictly a marriage of convenience. Schools are there because they currently have no where else to go. The Big East is on borrowed time. As soon as the next round of conference musical chairs begins, look for those schools to do all they can to escape. And they won't be the only ones. I'm sure Cincy and Memphis will try to join the Big XII...and Georgetown and Villanova will do whatever it takes to hook up with the ACC.   

Bingo.
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Dawson Rental

I agree with Groin_pull that this is a big Duh!  I don't see anyway in hell Villanova and Georgetown can make themselves attractive to the ACC, however.  UConn may want to go somewhere with ND, but its much more likely that Rutgers will be their date.  I don't think that any other conference is going to give ND the pass on bringing football along that they got from the Big East.
You actually have a degree from Marquette?

Quote from: muguru
No...and after reading many many psosts from people on this board that do...I have to say I'm MUCH better off, if this is the type of "intelligence" a degree from MU gets you. It sure is on full display I will say that.

79Warrior



Gotta love what is going on, everyone is backstabbing the sh## out of each other. This conference is a complete mess, to big, geographically abad fit and football and basketball only just do not mix.

dbwarriors

Louisville's AD said they were looking elsewhere 6+ months ago

GGGG

Quote from: LittleMurs on May 10, 2012, 04:23:46 PM
I agree with Groin_pull that this is a big Duh!  I don't see anyway in hell Villanova and Georgetown can make themselves attractive to the ACC, however.  UConn may want to go somewhere with ND, but its much more likely that Rutgers will be their date.  I don't think that any other conference is going to give ND the pass on bringing football along that they got from the Big East.


Exactly.  The ACC isn't doing any of that "basketball members" crap.  Do you think that those other conferences see the Big East as a model that they should copy???

marquette20

Quote from: Stone Cold on May 10, 2012, 04:19:10 PM
Lets get it over with:

UNITE

Georgetown, Marquette, Villanova, St. Johns, Seton Hall, DePaul, Dayton, Xavier

add Providence, Temple, Butler, and Creighton
Possible other options include: Whichta State, VCU, George Mason, Old Dominion, Drexel, and Murray State

Looks like a solid conference. Would be better than Pac and challenge ACC and Big10 some years. It would flip with Big12 for the 3rd best

Dawson Rental

Quote from: marquette20 on May 10, 2012, 09:14:35 PM
add Providence, Temple, Butler, and Creighton
Possible other options include: Whichta State, VCU, George Mason, Old Dominion, Drexel, and Murray State

Looks like a solid conference. Would be better than Pac and challenge ACC and Big10 some years. It would flip with Big12 for the 3rd best

You can forget Temple, they play Division I football.  If you want decent TV revenue, you'd better invite SLU and figure out how to bring ND along.  Honestly, I can't see any of your "other options" doing anything other than diluting revenue for everyone else.  Providence and Butler both could add value.  Regrettably, Creighton probably would not.
You actually have a degree from Marquette?

Quote from: muguru
No...and after reading many many psosts from people on this board that do...I have to say I'm MUCH better off, if this is the type of "intelligence" a degree from MU gets you. It sure is on full display I will say that.

MU82

It's all about football. Georgetown and Villanova are non-starters for any BCS conference (except the Big East). They will have to stick with the poor, lowly Marquettes of the world!
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Litehouse

Villanova's football team is probably better than Duke.

Groin_pull

Sultan, it's not that the ACC wants to copy the Big East...it's that they want to take over the NYC area. They already have Syracuse. Add St Johns and Rutgers and they own NY/NJ. That would give them the entire East Coast...from Boston to Miami. Think about the markets. NYC...Boston...Philadelphia...Washington DC...Charlotte...Miami. Not too bad. Don't assume the ACC doesn't want a few select hoops-only schools. Georgetown and Villanova bring a lot to the table...athletically and academically.

Aughnanure

Quote from: Groin_pull on May 10, 2012, 10:22:03 PM
Sultan, it's not that the ACC wants to copy the Big East...it's that they want to take over the NYC area. They already have Syracuse. Add St Johns and Rutgers and they own NY/NJ. That would give them the entire East Coast...from Boston to Miami. Think about the markets. NYC...Boston...Philadelphia...Washington DC...Charlotte...Miami. Not too bad. Don't assume the ACC doesn't want a few select hoops-only schools. Georgetown and Villanova bring a lot to the table...athletically and academically.

Nope. They won't need more hoops schools or more academically respected schools. Seriously, stop this. Georgetown and Nova fans know this.
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Groin_pull

 I disagree. Guess we'll find out in the next year or two.

dbwarriors

Nova's applied for ACC membership in the past couple years.  ACC may take Philly and the DC market with G-Town.

Benny B

GTown and Nova aren't going anywhere without St Johns and Seton Hall. If there are five seatbelts in that car, MU will also be in on the ride.
Quote from: LittleMurs on January 08, 2015, 07:10:33 PM
Wow, I'm very concerned for Benny.  Being able to mimic Myron Medcalf's writing so closely implies an oncoming case of dementia.

Benny B

Quote from: dbwarriors on May 10, 2012, 11:49:25 PM
Nova's applied for ACC membership in the past couple years.  ACC may take Philly and the DC market with G-Town.

Not buying it... Nova won't deliver Philly any more than DePaul delivers Chicago. Heck, the Demons are relegated to a sub-station here locally. Can't even get a broadcast in HD even when it's available.

GTown does nothing for market... ACC is already in DC.
Quote from: LittleMurs on January 08, 2015, 07:10:33 PM
Wow, I'm very concerned for Benny.  Being able to mimic Myron Medcalf's writing so closely implies an oncoming case of dementia.

bamamarquettefan

Here is the pecking order:

1. Five major conferences that everyone with a football team wishes they could be in.
2. The Big East, where everyone in the other 27 conferences wishes they could play in - and the best conference any basketball-only school could hope for.
3. Twenty-seven other conferences.

Life stinks right now for everyone in CUSA, the soon to collapse WAC, etc.  Yes, the unbelievable 7-year run that Marquette was somehow a part of is over.  We will no longer be in the dominant basketball conference.  But even if Lville, UConn and Rutgers get invited to one of the Big 5 - and by the way who cares now that the AQ status is being thrown out for football - the Big East will be the highest possible scenario for Marquette.

I won't think it will be the end of the world if things fall apart and we end up in the A10 etc. (though the Catholic League idea really would be the end for us), but let's just accept that we can't control the realignement and be happy we are in the highest place we can be, and well beyond what anyone could have hoped for prior to 2005.

It seems to be that people are saying, I'm really worried things might blow up, so let's go ahead and blow them up ourselves just in case.
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Quote from: 79Warrior on May 10, 2012, 07:42:32 PM

Gotta love what is going on, everyone is backstabbing the sh## out of each other. This conference is a complete mess, to big, geographically abad fit and football and basketball only just do not mix.

Pretty much like CUSA which you used to vehemently defend if I recall correctly.

Groin_pull

Benny, why do you think Gtown and 'nova give a sh#t about St Johns and Seton Hall? They don't. It's every school for itself. There are no friends and there are no partnerships. Not anymore. If, by some miracle, the ACC invites Gtown and/or 'nova...do you think they're saying "Oh no, we don't go anywhere without St Johns and Seton Hall." C'mon.

CTWarrior

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The only thing I would say is that if the ACC was going to call on basketball only schools (and I don't think they will), St. John's makes more sense than anyone else, because of NYC and MSG.  Basketball not on a par with Nova and Georgetown right now, but that can easily change with the right coach.  Lavin, if he can stay healthy, would do good things there in the right conference.
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GGGG

Groin, what evidence do you have that suggests that the ACC is after basketball-only members?  Show me *one* legitimate news article that states that this is even remotely being considered.  This shows a complete misunderstanding of the role that college basketball plays in the television landscape.  The regular season of college basketball brings in pretty mediocre ratings...adding private, non-football playing schools isn't going to change that no matter what "markets" they bring.

Furthermore, the ACC just signed its new television deal.  A deal that includes both football and basketball telecasts, and will net all conference members $17M per year...up from the $12M per year that they were making prior and dwarfing the $9M per year football playing BE members make now.

Why would they divide up the pie even more with members that don't play their most watched sport?

It is not going to happen.

Dawson Rental

Quote from: Litehouse on May 10, 2012, 10:08:10 PM
Villanova's football team is probably better than Duke.

But their stadium is far from BCS quality.
You actually have a degree from Marquette?

Quote from: muguru
No...and after reading many many psosts from people on this board that do...I have to say I'm MUCH better off, if this is the type of "intelligence" a degree from MU gets you. It sure is on full display I will say that.

Dawson Rental

Quote from: dbwarriors on May 10, 2012, 11:49:25 PM
Nova's applied for ACC membership in the past couple years.  ACC may take Philly and the DC market with G-Town.

How'd that work out for them?
You actually have a degree from Marquette?

Quote from: muguru
No...and after reading many many psosts from people on this board that do...I have to say I'm MUCH better off, if this is the type of "intelligence" a degree from MU gets you. It sure is on full display I will say that.