Durley granted release

[Hoopaloop]

Why was Durley's Mom quoted as saying he was going to JUCO (shortly after he signed the LOI)?  Think they joined here and elsewhere to squash the JUCO comment - as conditional recruitments are a  gray area (that many schools engage in), yet schools don't want to publicize such? 

Absolutely ludicrous to think differently Brew....Durley's Mom just didn't come up with the quote he's going to JUCO out of thin air...think about it for a minute.

She said the original story (the one you are referring to) was completely wrong.  Are you calling her a liar?

http://painttouches.com/2011/11/27/despite-rumors-durley-remains-fully-committed-to-marquette/

Amid false report, Durley remains fully committed to Marquette
Posted on November 27, 2011 by Mark Strotman |

Aaron Durley, a 6-foot-11 inch forward from Houston, re-affirmed his commitment to Marquette University, six days after unconfirmed reports surfaced that he would not attend in the fall of 2012.

Jim Hicks of RCS Sports reported last Monday that Durley would attend junior college, falsely claiming that Durley and his parents knew their intentions even before Aaron signed his National Letter of Intent to Marquette on Nov. 9.

"This article is far from true," Durley said in an email. "From the horse's mouth, I assure you that I will be at Marquette University in the fall."

Dana Durley, Aaron's mother, said she was misquoted in the original report and confirmed that her son is fully committed to attending Marquette.

"We couldn't be happier with Marquette," Dana said. "We are completely satisfied with Aaron's decision."

Durley's mother moved from Saudi Arabia to Houston two years ago to help her son along in the process of selecting a school. She said she called Hicks to give an update on Aaron's commitment to Marquette.

"It was how we were happy about Marquette," Dana said. "We said we made our decision because of Marquette's develpoment skills, the great education and we know that Buzz [Williams] and [Tony] Benford really think hard about offering scholarships."

Durley's mother informed the Marquette coaching staff after the original report was published, saying that neither she nor Aaron would do or say anything negative or hurtful toward Marquette.

"I have never wavered on Aaron's decision to attend Marquette," Dana said. "He is fully committed."

[Blackhat]

[Hoopaloop]

Even if the LOI was conditional - which who the frack honestly knows - I still philosophically don't like them. If thats the way everyone is doing business now (and I mean specifically with conditional LOI agreements) then fine. But I would really like to see that changed. Recruiting is inherently a gamble, and I dont like creating this gray area chasm where either party can simply back out.  The signee is gambling that this is where he wants to be/the best he can do, and the signor school is gambling that this is the best use of an available scholarship. To do it this way totally defeats the purpose of the LOI. Why the hell even have signing periods if its just going to be a crapshoot from March - June anyway?

The NCAA does not allow a conditional letter of intent.  It is called the Caliprari rule.  This has been in place since 2009.  I hope what you and others are saying about a conditional letter of intent are not true, because it would mean we are breaking NCAA rules.


http://aol.sportingnews.com/ncaa-basketball/story/2009-10-01/ncaa-says-no-conditions-allowed-on-letters-intent



NCAA says no conditions allowed on letters of intent
PUBLISHED Thursday, Oct 1, 2009 at 7:28 pm EDT
Mike DeCourcy, Sporting News Sporting News


When basketball star Xavier Henry signed a letter of intent last fall to play for the University of Memphis, his agreement included an addendum stating the university would release him from that obligation if John Calipari were no longer the Tigers coach.

Such deals now out of bounds in college sports.

The National Letter of Intent Policy and Review Committee sent a memo to member schools Thursday announcing that institutions should be aware they are prohibited from establishing any additional conditions associated with the NLI agreement in advance of a prospective student-athlete signing the NLI.

A copy of the memo was provided to Sporting News by a Division I basketball coach.

The memo declares that if any institution or its employees offer additional conditions, the prospective student-athletes NLI is subject to being declared null and void along with possible institutional penalties. Susan Peal of the NLI office said possible punishments range from a letter of admonishment to expulsion from the National Letter of Intent program.

The National Letter of Intent program is a voluntary system run by the Collegiate Commissioners Association out of offices at the NCAA in Indianapolis. It was established so prospects can end the recruiting process by making a formal, signed commitment to a university. Schools benefit by gaining some certainty regarding which athletes will be entering their programs.

The concept of an addendum promising an NLI release had become more popular recently, as releases from the letter became easier to obtain. It escalated last year, with top-10 prospect DeMarcus Cousins refusing to sign at UAB because the school would not agree to release him if coach Mike Davis were to leave, and when Henry and guard Nolan Dennis abandoned their signed letters with Memphis after Calipari departed for Kentucky.

The letter of intent includes clauses mandating eligibility penalties for those athletes who do not spend at least one academic year at the school where they sign, but the past decade has seen more players gain releases when circumstances change such as a coach being fired or taking another job.

The NLI committee's memo said an athlete who wants to be released from a signed letter will need to follow the standard procedures of submitting a request form.

[NersEllenson]

She said the original story (the one you are referring to) was completely wrong.  Are you calling her a liar?

http://painttouches.com/2011/11/27/despite-rumors-durley-remains-fully-committed-to-marquette/

Amid false report, Durley remains fully committed to Marquette
Posted on November 27, 2011 by Mark Strotman |

Aaron Durley, a 6-foot-11 inch forward from Houston, re-affirmed his commitment to Marquette University, six days after unconfirmed reports surfaced that he would not attend in the fall of 2012.

Jim Hicks of RCS Sports reported last Monday that Durley would attend junior college, falsely claiming that Durley and his parents knew their intentions even before Aaron signed his National Letter of Intent to Marquette on Nov. 9.

"This article is far from true," Durley said in an email. "From the horse's mouth, I assure you that I will be at Marquette University in the fall."

Dana Durley, Aaron's mother, said she was misquoted in the original report and confirmed that her son is fully committed to attending Marquette.

"We couldn't be happier with Marquette," Dana said. "We are completely satisfied with Aaron's decision."

Durley's mother moved from Saudi Arabia to Houston two years ago to help her son along in the process of selecting a school. She said she called Hicks to give an update on Aaron's commitment to Marquette.

"It was how we were happy about Marquette," Dana said. "We said we made our decision because of Marquette's develpoment skills, the great education and we know that Buzz [Williams] and [Tony] Benford really think hard about offering scholarships."

Durley's mother informed the Marquette coaching staff after the original report was published, saying that neither she nor Aaron would do or say anything negative or hurtful toward Marquette.

"I have never wavered on Aaron's decision to attend Marquette," Dana said. "He is fully committed."

Can you find an example of another recruitment where such a drama has unfolded...see bolded part...that they would never do or say anything negative or hurtful toward Marquette...which is exactly why they she recanted her statement about Aaron going to JUCO.  Had to vehemently deny previous quotes, as to not do so would reflect poorly on MU...

[NersEllenson]

The NCAA does not allow a conditional letter of intent.  It is called the Caliprari rule.  This has been in place since 2009.  I hope what you and others are saying about a conditional letter of intent are not true, because it would mean we are breaking NCAA rules.


http://aol.sportingnews.com/ncaa-basketball/story/2009-10-01/ncaa-says-no-conditions-allowed-on-letters-intent



NCAA says no conditions allowed on letters of intent
PUBLISHED Thursday, Oct 1, 2009 at 7:28 pm EDT
Mike DeCourcy, Sporting News Sporting News


When basketball star Xavier Henry signed a letter of intent last fall to play for the University of Memphis, his agreement included an addendum stating the university would release him from that obligation if John Calipari were no longer the Tigers coach.

Such deals now out of bounds in college sports.

The National Letter of Intent Policy and Review Committee sent a memo to member schools Thursday announcing that institutions should be aware they are prohibited from establishing any additional conditions associated with the NLI agreement in advance of a prospective student-athlete signing the NLI.

A copy of the memo was provided to Sporting News by a Division I basketball coach.

The memo declares that if any institution or its employees offer additional conditions, the prospective student-athletes NLI is subject to being declared null and void along with possible institutional penalties. Susan Peal of the NLI office said possible punishments range from a letter of admonishment to expulsion from the National Letter of Intent program.

The National Letter of Intent program is a voluntary system run by the Collegiate Commissioners Association out of offices at the NCAA in Indianapolis. It was established so prospects can end the recruiting process by making a formal, signed commitment to a university. Schools benefit by gaining some certainty regarding which athletes will be entering their programs.

The concept of an addendum promising an NLI release had become more popular recently, as releases from the letter became easier to obtain. It escalated last year, with top-10 prospect DeMarcus Cousins refusing to sign at UAB because the school would not agree to release him if coach Mike Davis were to leave, and when Henry and guard Nolan Dennis abandoned their signed letters with Memphis after Calipari departed for Kentucky.

The letter of intent includes clauses mandating eligibility penalties for those athletes who do not spend at least one academic year at the school where they sign, but the past decade has seen more players gain releases when circumstances change such as a coach being fired or taking another job.

The NLI committee's memo said an athlete who wants to be released from a signed letter will need to follow the standard procedures of submitting a request form.

Kind of like hiring son's of AAU coaches to be video coordinators, and giving walk on slots to the sons of AAU Board of Directors...and then shortly thereafter just watching the floodgates open with commits from the same AAU program (that had gone dormant in sending kids to IU for years prior), correct?

[brewcity77]

Ners, sorry, but when Dana Durley came out and called that writer a liar, asserting Aaron would be here, and especially considering I have never seen an actual quote attributed to her, there's really no leg to stand on. What Hoop produced sums it up. If they felt that article was accurate, why the vehement denial? Because they planned on Aaron being here.

[NersEllenson]

Ners, sorry, but when Dana Durley came out and called that writer a liar, asserting Aaron would be here, and especially considering I have never seen an actual quote attributed to her, there's really no leg to stand on. What Hoop produced sums it up. If they felt that article was accurate, why the vehement denial? Because they planned on Aaron being here.

Agree to disagree.  The vehement denial from them was due to the very article Hoop produced...conditional recruitments are a gray area...and the Durley's basically spilling the beans could* hurt MU...therefore they put the flames out as quickly and absolutely as possible...

[MUBurrow]

Kind of like hiring son's of AAU coaches to be video coordinators, and giving walk on slots to the sons of AAU Board of Directors...and then shortly thereafter just watching the floodgates open with commits from the same AAU program (that had gone dormant in sending kids to IU for years prior), correct?

Just because you don't like the source doesnt make the point any less valid.

[JamilJaeJamailJrJuan]

Gotta feel a little bad for the kid, but the right decision was made. Now...Trent Lockett.

[🏀]

C'mon....  Buzz just needs to stop signing kids like this.

All that needs to be said.

[NersEllenson]

Just because you don't like the source doesnt make the point any less valid.

Agree..it is a dicey game to be playing, yet thus is the way the game gets played in high major hoops and football.  Tough waters to navigate...damned if you do, damned if you don't.  All coaches straddle that line as closely as possible at this level...it is a dirty, dirty, competitive business...and you have to toe the line of borderline shady/unethical to compete...or don't....and be an NIT program...

[Canned Goods n Ammo]

I don't know why some of you are making this into a federal case.

If Durley had a great senior year, Buzz certainly would have allowed Durley to change his mind and go to UT or UNC, UCLA or wherever, and everybody here would have understood and wished the kid good luck.

Now the situations are reversed so some of you are in attack mode?

WTF.

[nyg]

Here's a question.  Where does Durley end up?

[DomJamesToTheBasket]

Here's a question.  Where does Durley end up?

I'd guess a prep or JUCO.  He probably still wants to go to a "name" school and I don't think he'll get the offers he wants.  I can't imagine many High-Majors offering him given his HS resume.

[cheebs09]

Agreed Buzzsaw, I think he just needs some in-game experience. He didn't play much this year and had to play JV one year due to transferring and his injury. I think a prep school would be best just because of not losing a yea of eligibility.

[Rockmic87]

With the type of recruits that were getting now and even projecting into the future. Durley would never had played and would likely had been forced out by his 2nd or 3rd year. Buzz definitely was doing him a favor. I like to consider that MU has standards on who they sign, hopefully Buzz will stop making desperate signings in the future.

[brewcity77]

With the type of recruits that were getting now and even projecting into the future. Durley would never had played and would likely had been forced out by his 2nd or 3rd year. Buzz definitely was doing him a favor. I like to consider that MU has standards on who they sign, hopefully Buzz will stop making desperate signings in the future.

How do you figure? What incoming big that we are getting would get time ahead of Durley? He was the ONLY big we had slated for 3 years out, so by default, that post is false. And you can't just project random guys not yet recruited, because otherwise we'd be arguing that CO has no hope of playing because he'll be behind Nerlens Noel and Cam Ridley.

[Rockmic87]

How do you figure? What incoming big that we are getting would get time ahead of Durley? He was the ONLY big we had slated for 3 years out, so by default, that post is false. And you can't just project random guys not yet recruited, because otherwise we'd be arguing that CO has no hope of playing because he'll be behind Nerlens Noel and Cam Ridley.

Steve Taylor would get playing time a head of Durley. I don't know of any player ever to not get any paying time in HS and be a contribution at a D-1 school. Most bigs who are considered a project and are coming into a D-1 program are at least making some type of contribution on their HS team, whether defensively (Former Rufus King player Mitchell Carter) or offensively (a Roy Hibbert who was averaging double digit pts.)

[brewcity77]

Steve Taylor would get playing time a head of Durley. I don't know of any player ever to not get any paying time in HS and be a contribution at a D-1 school. Most bigs who are considered a project and are coming into a D-1 program are at least making some type of contribution on their HS team, whether defensively (Former Rufus King player Mitchell Carter) or offensively (a Roy Hibbert who was averaging double digit pts.)

Okay...Taylor is a flex 3/4, Durley is an unquestioned 5. Not sure how many DNPs he had, but Durley averaged 7/5 behind a McDonald's All-American. But regardless...what big plays the 5 ahead of him in 2014? No one, because we have no other.

[warthog-driver]

Okay...Taylor is a flex 3/4, Durley is an unquestioned 5. Not sure how many DNPs he had, but Durley averaged 7/5 behind a McDonald's All-American. But regardless...what big plays the 5 ahead of him in 2014? No one, because we have no other.

We are in hard on Greatstaff. Word is he has some real beef.

[LloydMooresLegs]

Maurice Lucas, Jim Chones, Larry McNeill, Jerome Whitehead, Dean Marquardt (no kidding, he was highly rated out of HS,) Walter Downing, Lloyd Moore...and almost Sam Bowie

If we had signed Sam Bowie our death spiral might not have ever happened in the 80's

Warthog:  Lloyd Moore?  Lloyd Moore?  I guess you really mean "big men who were perceived when they were recruited as having potential" rather than "talented big men."

Anyway, I appreciate the mention. 

[warthog-driver]

Warthog:  Lloyd Moore?  Lloyd Moore?  I guess you really mean "big men who were perceived when they were recruited as having potential" rather than "talented big men."

Anyway, I appreciate the mention. 

Legs - As you know, Lloyd Moore was very highly rated in HS. His signing was a very big deal. Unfortunately he ate his way out of being a player.

[real chili 83]

Attached is an artticle on Durley's team written on February 14th in the Houston Chronicle.  Courtney is quoted as saying that Durley has played a key role this season for his team.  An interesting comment, when you compare it to the complete flogging Courtney gave Durley last week.  Clearly, there is more to this story.

http://www.chron.com/default/article/Boys-basketball-Bush-has-big-playoff-plans-3323275.php

[GGGG]

I really, really would like to know why Enlund chose to write a blog entry about Durley...just a week before this announcement.  He hasn't written about Taylor or Ferguson right?  Why Durley?  Too coincidental IMO.

[Hards Alumni]

I really, really would like to know why Enlund chose to write a blog entry about Durley...just a week before this announcement.  He hasn't written about Taylor or Ferguson right?  Why Durley?  Too coincidental IMO.

Because it had been all but assured for months that Durley wouldn't be attending Marquette.