Durley granted release

[lab_warrior]

scratch that forgot about scrub Otule's 6th year.

Someone who would post that Otule is a "scrub" either has not watched ANY MU basketball (despite the FANATIC 4 LIFE moniker), and/or has no idea what they're talking about.  Were Chris healthy, he would have helped us IMMENSELY this year, particularly on the defensive end of the floor. 

To quote Ron Burgundy, "why don't you sit this next one out, stop talking for a while."

[muguru]

I just do not agree with releasing a kid you signed. The smart thing to do is not sign kids in the early signing period, if you are not sure thye are ready. Frankly, I hope Durley turns into a stud and beats MU or whatever team Buzz is coaching in the future.

But you have to understand, Otule's injury changed everything with Durley unfortunately. No one could see that forthcoming when Durley signed. Because of that, and Otule now Needing/wanting a 6th year, a scholarship HAD to come from somewhere to accommodate that. It's unfortunate, but sometimes things happen that no one sees coming.

[GGGG]

But you have to understand, Otule's injury changed everything with Durley unfortunately. No one could see that forthcoming when Durley signed. Because of that, and Otule now Needing/wanting a 6th year, a scholarship HAD to come from somewhere to accommodate that. It's unfortunate, but sometimes things happen that no one sees coming.

Sorry, but that's crap.  They had room until they signed Duane Wilson.

[We R Final Four]

I just do not agree with releasing a kid you signed. The smart thing to do is not sign kids in the early signing period, if you are not sure thye are ready.

The smart thing?  I would say maybe the reasonable/reputable thing to do.  The SMART thing to do is let him go and upgrade.....whether you agree with it or not, what just happened is 'smarter' than the alternative.

There is a reason some coaches offer in the early, early, early, signing period (aka 8th grade)--certainly unsure if they are ready.

[THEultimateWARRIOR]

Sorry, but that's crap.  They had room until they signed Duane Wilson.

I don't agree with you Sultan. Buzz said so himself that the Otule situation changed things with Durley.

[strotty]

Both Durley and Marquette benefited when he committed to Marquette.

Both Durley and Marquette benefited when Durley was released from his letter of intent.

Pretty simple.

[muguru]

Sorry, but that's crap.  They had room until they signed Duane Wilson.

Wilson hasn't SIGNED anything yet, for the record. But it also changed in that now Durley doesn't see himself playing for at least two years at MU. Otule's injury had a major impact on this development, and whether you want to believe that or not, is up to you.

[MUMac]

I don't agree with you Sultan. Buzz said so himself that the Otule situation changed things with Durley.

Then why now?  Why not when Otule decided to have surgery?  I understand what you are saying, I am not buying it, though. 

[Knight Commission]

Krunti Hester. eom.

[THEultimateWARRIOR]

Both Durley and Marquette benefited when he committed to Marquette.

Both Durley and Marquette benefited when Durley was released from his letter of intent.

Pretty simple.

this.

[MUMac]

Wilson hasn't SIGNED anything yet, for the record. But it also changed in that now Durley doesn't see himself playing for at least two years at MU. Otule's injury had a major impact on this development, and whether you want to believe that or not, is up to you.

Sure does not seem to be that Durley agrees with you.  Not sure it was his decision at all.

[THEultimateWARRIOR]

Then why now?  Why not when Otule decided to have surgery?  I understand what you are saying, I am not buying it, though. 

I would assume Buzz would never want to do things like that during the season.

[MUMac]

I would assume Buzz would never want to do things like that during the season.

The season ended nearly a month ago.

[GGGG]

Wilson hasn't SIGNED anything yet, for the record. But it also changed in that now Durley doesn't see himself playing for at least two years at MU. Otule's injury had a major impact on this development, and whether you want to believe that or not, is up to you.

That is a different issue than what you brought up earlier.  You said the "scholarship had to come from somewhere."  We had the scholarship even when Otule got hurt and needed a 6th.

And it seems pretty clear that MU is playing with words.  I dont think Durley requested this...he was openly cheering for MU on twitter a couple weeks ago.

[THEultimateWARRIOR]

Sure does not seem to be that Durley agrees with you.  Not sure it was his decision at all.

I agree. This was not Durley's decision. He seemed pretty upset about it. Buzz knew what was best for the team and for Durley, this was the right move.

[Goose]

Making room for Nolan.

[MUMac]

I agree. This was not Durley's decision. He seemed pretty upset about it. Buzz knew what was best for the team and for Durley, this was the right move.

Right move?  I cannot agree with that.  I understand the insensitive side of college basketball.  I don't like to see it on display at my alma mater.  Buzz signed Durley 5 months ago.  Durley has been planing on attending MU.  I don't like this situation at all.  Really the seedy side of the sport.  I am not a fan of what just went down.

[Lennys Tap]

Both Durley and Marquette benefited when he committed to Marquette.

Both Durley and Marquette benefited when Durley was released from his letter of intent.

Pretty simple.

+1

[GGGG]

Right move?  I cannot agree with that.  I understand the insensitive side of college basketball.  I don't like to see it on display at my alma mater.  Buzz signed Durley 5 months ago.  Durley has been planing on attending MU.  I don't like this situation at all.  Really the seedy side of the sport.  I am not a fan of what just went down.

Agreed.  I didn't like it with Newbill either.  I really like Jamil obviously, and it really isn't his fault, but this is the second time in three years that Buzz has taken fliers on kids, signs them to NLIs, and get leverages his way out of them.  He preaches about teaching kids how to become men, and then he backs out on a commitment he makes to someone.

Both Durley and Marquette benefited when he committed to Marquette.

Both Durley and Marquette benefited when Durley was released from his letter of intent.

Pretty simple.

Whatever makes you sleep at night I guess.  I fail to see how Durley benefited from these transactions.  We should have never signed him.

[Goose]

I have no problem with this happening. It gives the kid enough time to land on his feet and gives us time to sign a higher skilled player. Really is a win -win for both parties. I predict Nolan fills the spot.

[Blackhat]

Love that Buzz is looking to shape his best roster continually.  Relieved Durley won't be on the roster.  I have no problem with it, I don't like him signing these crappy bigs only to get their hopes up and then have to part ways.   Wish he could land at least a top 250 big.

[muguru]

Right move?  I cannot agree with that.  I understand the insensitive side of college basketball.  I don't like to see it on display at my alma mater.  Buzz signed Durley 5 months ago.  Durley has been planing on attending MU.  I don't like this situation at all.  Really the seedy side of the sport.  I am not a fan of what just went down.

So Mac, what about Brett Roseboro?? Didn't Buzz stand behind him when he signed him, only for Roseboro to get to MU and realize he wouldn't get much playing time and ask for his release?? That left Buzz in a bind, and a player short. It works both ways. Maybe Buzz did him a favor??

Or.....how about this....Buzz signs 5 or 6 Durley's or Roseboro's, and suddenly MU isn't winning games because the kids aren't good enough to play at the BE level. Then everyone gets upset, because "Buzz can't recruit, etc etc". It's a double edged sword. Then are you still glad he "stood behind the kids he signed"??

[muguru]

Love that Buzz is looking to shape his best roster continually.  Relieved Durley won't be on the roster.  I have no problem with it, I don't like him signing these crappy bigs only to get their hopes up and then have to part ways.   Wish he could land at least a top 250 big.

Right or wrong, it's about winning games, and winning at a consistent, high level. You can't do that if you don't have the best players to do so.

[GGGG]

So Mac, what about Brett Roseboro?? Didn't Buzz stand behind him when he signed him, only for Roseboro to get to MU and realize he wouldn't get much playing time and ask for his release?? That left Buzz in a bind, and a player short. It works both ways. Maybe Buzz did him a favor??

Or.....how about this....Buzz signs 5 or 6 Durley's or Roseboro's, and suddenly MU isn't winning games because the kids aren't good enough to play at the BE level. Then everyone gets upset, because "Buzz can't recruit, etc etc". It's a double edged sword. Then are you still glad he "stood behind the kids he signed"??

Yes.  Buzz should stand behind the commitments he makes.  Maybe the lesson he needs to learn is that he shouldn't make such commitments so willingly.

I was wrong before....this is the third time in five years he backed out of a signed NLI.

I have no problem with yanking a scholarship after a year.  It is a year by year commitment.  But I really don't like this one bit.

[strotty]

Yes.  Buzz should stand behind the commitments he makes.  Maybe the lesson he needs to learn is that he shouldn't make such commitments so willingly.

I was wrong before....this is the third time in five years he backed out of a signed NLI.

I have no problem with yanking a scholarship after a year.  It is a year by year commitment.  But I really don't like this one bit.

In all fairness, both times Buzz "backed out" it worked out for the kid.