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tower912

So, the local sports radio show this morning, in a state 4 states away from Wisconsin, with one of the guys a former NFL player, a show that previously only mentions Bo Ryan when they play Sparty/UM or during a B1G preview show, spent 1/2 hour this morning slagging Bo Ryan.   The former NFL player, whose children are probably going to play collegiate athletics, though probably not at a B1G level, flat out said that he would never let a kid of his play for Bo.
    This isn't teenagers not drinking in a bar.    This isn't an ordinary transfer.   Transfers happen all of the time and are an accepted part of D1 collegiate athletics.  Lord knows that MU has had enough of them over the years.  This is a coach sticking it to a 19 year old out of spite.     To think this won't have repercussions or isn't a complete disaster for UW (possibly worse on a national scale than the handshake, which seems wrong to me) is simply naive.    I expect that MU will have a transfer at the end of the semester, maybe 2.    I expect they will be handled maturely.   If Buzz even hints at the kind of crap that Bo is pulling, I will be as critical of him as I am of Bo.
Luke 6:45   ...A good man produces goodness from the good in his heart; an evil man produces evil out of his store of evil.   Each man speaks from his heart's abundance...

It is better to be fearless and cheerful than cheerless and fearful.

Dish

Quote from: MUMac on April 19, 2012, 01:17:36 PM
I have done crisis management training in the past.  All I could think of through the whole interview is making UW a client.  WOW that was as bad a decision, AND preparation, as I have ever witnessed.  We have blasted MU's PR Dept on this board.  I think UW's might be even worse.

I can't get past the fact that UW called into Mike and Mike to get Bo on, and not the other way around. That blows my mind here. If you take Bo at his word from that interview, it sounds like he literally got off a treadmill, was handed a phone, and told to defend the program, with ZERO prep.

In a weird way, it was great, he was raw, and exposed how ignorant and stubborn he was. I just can not believe someone at UW thought this was a good idea. Amazing.

MUMac

Quote from: tower912 on April 19, 2012, 01:25:07 PM
I expect that MU will have a transfer at the end of the semester, maybe 2.    I expect they will be handled maturely.   If Buzz even hints at the kind of crap that Bo is pulling, I will be as critical of him as I am of Bo.

One thing I guarantee, if MU has a transfer.  The local press will dice and dissect who MU has on the list and use it to defend bo and attack Buzz and MU.  What a pathetic excuse for the state press we have in Wisconsin.

tower912

http://annarbor.com/sports/um-basketball/michigan-clarifies-john-beileins-preference-on-transfer-destinations/?cmpid=mlive-@mlive-sports#incart_more_sports

Michigan feels need to defend itself after a national reporter called Beilein "Bo-esque."     Yup, time to get in front of the story if your coach is called Bo-esque.       
Luke 6:45   ...A good man produces goodness from the good in his heart; an evil man produces evil out of his store of evil.   Each man speaks from his heart's abundance...

It is better to be fearless and cheerful than cheerless and fearful.

brewcity77

Quote from: MUMac on April 19, 2012, 01:31:30 PM
One thing I guarantee, if MU has a transfer.  The local press will dice and dissect who MU has on the list and use it to defend bo and attack Buzz and MU.  What a pathetic excuse for the state press we have in Wisconsin.

I think they'll have a hard time doing that. I honestly don't think there will even be a list. You don't need to list the rest of the Big East, as a player would have to sit out 2 years. Is there any BE school that would let any of our players take up a scholarship for 2 years so that they can get them for the years after, albeit with one less year of eligibility? The BE rule basically means we don't have to list any of our in-league schools. And what about the rest of the country? Is there a player on our team that would want to transfer anywhere in-state? Maybe Vander, but we know he wouldn't go to Wisconsin considering the history there, and I can't imagine him going to Milwaukee or Green Bay. Even if he did, would Buzz really block one player from going to a Horizon League school? I doubt it.

Anyone that transfers out of Marquette will be able to pick from any of the other 344 Division 1 schools in the country, with the only exceptions I could imagine being if there are tampering charges.

real chili 83

Quote from: Bocephys on April 19, 2012, 10:52:38 AM
I'm not so sure that's true.  Remember the St. Joseph's transfer issue from back in the middle of the season?  Everyone was up in arms for a few days, maybe even a week, and then it passed.  No one thinks about it now.  Bo will take some heat this week, and again when Uthoff announces where he's transferring to, but unless Uthoff blows up at Creghton that will be the end of it.  People have very short attention spans and standing your ground is almost better than doubling back, because people will forget.

Wasn't there an issue with the kid from St Joe's that wasn't covered at first by the mainstream media.  If my memory is correct, once the other side of the story was told, the story died quickly.

Does anyone remember the "full"story?

MUMac

Quote from: Bocephys on April 19, 2012, 10:52:38 AM
I'm not so sure that's true.  Remember the St. Joseph's transfer issue from back in the middle of the season?  Everyone was up in arms for a few days, maybe even a week, and then it passed.  No one thinks about it now.  Bo will take some heat this week, and again when Uthoff announces where he's transferring to, but unless Uthoff blows up at Creghton that will be the end of it.  People have very short attention spans and standing your ground is almost better than doubling back, because people will forget.

It will be mentioned when Uthoff is playing on TV (although, with what bo is allowing, do they televise NAIA games?).  It will also be mentioned on some broadcasts next year of UW games.

This is not comparable to the St. Joes situation, as the firestorm here is much greater.

brewcity77

The transfer ban has been lifted, according to Andy Katz. Uthoff is now free to transfer to any non-Big 10 schools.

Quote from: Andy KatzWisconsin met with Jarrod Uthoff and has announced that all transfer restrictions have been lifted except for Big Ten schools.

warthog-driver

Quote from: brewcity77 on April 19, 2012, 02:08:23 PM
The transfer ban has been lifted, according to Andy Katz. Uthoff is now free to transfer to any non-Big 10 schools.


Including Marquette?

brewcity77

Quote from: warthog-driver on April 19, 2012, 02:09:53 PM
Including Marquette?

If Katz is to be believed...he did say "any" non-B1G schools.

speri

Synopsis of Jarrod Uthoff transfer and appeal process


 


 
April 19, 2012



Here is a brief synopsis of the transfer and appeal process as it pertains to Jarrod Uthoff.

It is incorrect that Uthoff requested "permission to contact" 25 schools. He has requested "permission to contact" 16 schools, 4 of which were denied.

Uthoff appealed 3 of the 4 schools that were denied.

Uthoff visited with both Associate Athletic Director Justin Doherty and Director of Athletics Barry Alvarez Thursday morning as part of the appeal process.

Doherty, Alvarez and head coach Bo Ryan then met and collectively came to a decision that the University of Wisconsin Athletic Department has lifted "permission to contact" restrictions on ANY school outside of the Big Ten Conference.

Ryan is supportive of denials of Big Ten institutions only and has wanted the appeals process to serve as a means for dialogue to occur between Uthoff and UW Athletics administration.

Uthoff has been notified of these decisions.

If Uthoff wishes to further appeal the "permission to contact" denial to any Big Ten university, he may request a hearing to the Chair of the Athletic Board within 8 business days.


Sure, that's exactly how it went down.
http://www.uwbadgers.com/sports/m-baskbl/spec-rel/041912aab.html

brewcity77

Hmm...wonder which four and which three. I figure Florida, Iowa State, and Marquette were three of the four. It wouldn't surprise me if Iowa was the one he requested, was denied, and didn't appeal. The other school that could have been in the mix was Virginia, though from the sounds of things, Bennett contacted Wisconsin for permission to contact Uthoff.

warthog-driver

Alvarez must have whipped Bo's ass today. I wonder if Ryan is contemplating leaving?

MarquetteDano

Quote from: MUMac on April 19, 2012, 01:31:30 PM
One thing I guarantee, if MU has a transfer.  The local press will dice and dissect who MU has on the list and use it to defend bo and attack Buzz and MU.  What a pathetic excuse for the state press we have in Wisconsin.

Other than some slight vindictiveness or stubborness on Ryan's part, the whole situation is much more telling of the state of Wisconsin's sports media.  Nearly every sports team in the state gets treated with kid gloves.  The problem with that is there is no quality control.  Then when the national media gets a hold of something they are completely unprepared.

In many other states the coach of the state school would have been skewered long before this went national.  The coach would have relented, and problem solved.  Didn't happen in this case.  And now Badger fans are shocked by the media's reaction.  Welcome to the real world Wisconsin sports fans.

tower912

A day later, still getting pounded on local sports radio 4 states away.   Put a smile on my face and a song in my heart. 
Luke 6:45   ...A good man produces goodness from the good in his heart; an evil man produces evil out of his store of evil.   Each man speaks from his heart's abundance...

It is better to be fearless and cheerful than cheerless and fearful.

Hards Alumni

Quote from: warthog-driver on April 19, 2012, 06:12:26 PM
Alvarez must have whipped Bo's ass today. I wonder if Ryan is contemplating leaving?

Bo isn't going anywhere.  He would never 'leave' UW.

If anything, he'd hang it up and retire.

Niv Berkowitz

Quote from: MUMac on April 19, 2012, 01:31:30 PM
One thing I guarantee, if MU has a transfer.  The local press will dice and dissect who MU has on the list and use it to defend bo and attack Buzz and MU.  What a pathetic excuse for the state press we have in Wisconsin.

The local print media will make it a small footnote. Something like "MU student ______ decided to transfer today, simlar to what Utoff did at Wisconsin did just a short time ago, bla bla bla". The national radio/TV media won't cover it. The talking wonks on local sports radio however will go nuts.

GGGG

If mu has a transfer buzz will not place restrictions. He has the BE two year rule to fall back on.

brewcity77

Quote from: Hards_Alumni on April 20, 2012, 08:09:20 AM
Bo isn't going anywhere.  He would never 'leave' UW.

If anything, he'd hang it up and retire.

Bo Ryan will only leave UW when the ship captain returns to take him and his coffin home to Trans Pennsylvania.

The Process

Quote from: speri on April 19, 2012, 03:02:52 PM
Ryan is supportive of denials of Big Ten institutions only and has wanted the appeals process to serve as a means for dialogue to occur between Uthoff and UW Athletics administration.

And by "dialogue" Bo really meant:



Relax. Respect the Process.

warthog-driver

Quote from: CaptainAwesome on April 20, 2012, 07:05:40 PM
And by "dialogue" Bo really meant:





Subsequent interviews continue to show him as an out of touch buffoon. Or, worse, a disingenuous out of touch mean spirited buffoon.

tower912

http://www.foxsportswisconsin.com/04/21/12/Uthoff-I-wanted-to-do-this-in-person/landing_badgers.html?blockID=714002&feedID=10144

For all the talk on here from people trying to slag Buzz that kids are coached to say nice things on their way out the door, this gives a distinctly different impression.   Apparently, if asked open questions, they give honest answers.    Maybe, just maybe, Buzz really does look after these kids and does maintain relationships with them after they no longer play for him.    Reading this and the other stuff that has come out this last week, I have come to believe that Bo was the source for the article trashing Vander when he de-committed.       Compare this article to the blowjob that Potrykus gave Bo in yesterday's MJS.    What a couple of tools. 
Luke 6:45   ...A good man produces goodness from the good in his heart; an evil man produces evil out of his store of evil.   Each man speaks from his heart's abundance...

It is better to be fearless and cheerful than cheerless and fearful.

Chicago_inferiority_complexes

Quote from: tower912 on April 22, 2012, 09:37:06 AM
http://www.foxsportswisconsin.com/04/21/12/Uthoff-I-wanted-to-do-this-in-person/landing_badgers.html?blockID=714002&feedID=10144

Reading this and the other stuff that has come out this last week, I have come to believe that Bo was the source for the article trashing Vander when he de-committed.

Bingo

The Process

Quote from: tower912 on April 22, 2012, 09:37:06 AM
Compare this article to the blowjob that Potrykus gave Bo in yesterday's MJS.    What a couple of tools. 

Unlike Enlund, Potrykus is on Twitter!  jaypo1961

I'm sure he - like all Bucky mouthpieces - would appreciate constructive feedback on journalistic integrity and fairness. ::)
Relax. Respect the Process.

brewcity77

Quote from: CaptainAwesome on April 22, 2012, 01:32:29 PM
Unlike Enlund, Potrykus is on Twitter!  jaypo1961

I'm sure he - like all Bucky mouthpieces - would appreciate constructive feedback on journalistic integrity and fairness. ::)

@tenlund  :o :o :o

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