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mu-rara

Quote from: Bocephys on April 19, 2012, 10:52:38 AM
I'm not so sure that's true.  Remember the St. Joseph's transfer issue from back in the middle of the season?  Everyone was up in arms for a few days, maybe even a week, and then it passed.  No one thinks about it now.  Bo will take some heat this week, and again when Uthoff announces where he's transferring to, but unless Uthoff blows up at Creghton that will be the end of it.  People have very short attention spans and standing your ground is almost better than doubling back, because people will forget.
Also known as the Marquette Method in PR circles

mugoose

i typically cannot stand M&M, but they were great this morning. rarely to they ever blast thier guests....awesome job closing the interview with. "agree to disagree."

good stuff

TJ

Quote from: Dr. Blackheart on April 19, 2012, 09:03:58 AM
Why does the NCAA restrict transfers in the revenue sports by making them sit out a year, but allows direct transfers in the other sports.  For example, MU just accepted a transfer in volleyball who can play right away.
Why does the NCAA force a player to sit out a year for transferring when his 1-year scholarship wasn't renewed by the coach?  Sometimes things the NCAA does don't make sense.

Dr. Blackheart

Quote from: mu-rara on April 19, 2012, 10:55:27 AM
Also known as the Marquette Method in PR circles

One of the best lines.  Interesting how MU gets burned locally but national press is more favorable.  While UW it is the inverse.  Really a bad mistake by UW putting a Bo on who is used to getting his pov across unquestioned locally but he was not prepared for this nationally.

GGGG

And in listening to Bo, I think he initially handled the question well, but as the interview went on it just got worse....and worse...and worse....

He should have never gone on the radio.

Tugg Speedman

Quote from: The Sultan of South Wayne on April 19, 2012, 09:11:18 AM
The BE for instance prevents its schools from signing transfer from another BE school.

My understanding is you can transfer within BE schools but you have to sit for TWO years.  No one would do this so it effectively makes it a ban from transferring.

Tugg Speedman

Quote from: brewcity77 on April 19, 2012, 09:30:52 AM
Here's a link to some of that interview:

http://thebiglead.com/index.php/2012/04/19/bo-ryan-really-came-off-poorly-defending-himself-on-mike-mike/

Just finished watching it ... Bo did a terrible job.  He should have never agreed tot the interview.

brewcity77

Quote from: AnotherMU84 on April 19, 2012, 11:20:07 AM
Just finished watching it ... Bo did a terrible job.  He should have never agreed tot the interview.

If you listen to the whole thing, he said early on that he didn't know what M&M had been talking about, that someone just called him up and asked if he wanted to be on M&M and he said yes. If that's true and he is truly ignorant of just how asinine he looks...wow, I don't even know what to say.

brewcity77

Good article from Goodman about other high-profile transfers:

http://cbsprt.co/HW0n6W


tower912

Quote from: Dr. Blackheart on April 19, 2012, 11:05:33 AM
One of the best lines.  Interesting how MU gets burned locally but national press is more favorable.  While UW it is the inverse.  Really a bad mistake by UW putting a Bo on who is used to getting his pov across unquestioned locally but he was not prepared for this nationally.

I was contemplating this over lunch.    This is going to have a far larger negative national impact on UW than a bunch of 19-20 year old MU players not drinking in a bar had on MU.   AAU coaches/handlers/parents/HS coaches outside the state of Wisconsin are going to have a moment's pause before advocating their talented 16-17-18 year old go play in Madison.    Most parents of most kids (outside of Wisonsin, particularly the Milwaukee media market) are going to look at what happened in January as kids being dumb kids.    They are going to look at this as a coach and an institution sticking it to a kid who changed his mind.   And it will be remembered. 
Luke 6:45   ...A good man produces goodness from the good in his heart; an evil man produces evil out of his store of evil.   Each man speaks from his heart's abundance...

It is better to be fearless and cheerful than cheerless and fearful.

🏀

Who has transferred from Wisconsin recently?

Boo Wade
Diamond Taylor


Only two I can think of

MUfan12

Quote from: PTM on April 19, 2012, 12:03:20 PM
Who has transferred from Wisconsin recently?

Boo Wade
Diamond Taylor

Only two I can think of

Ian Markolf. Who lost both the will to live, and the desire to play basketball. Until he started playing again.

🏀

Quote from: PTM on April 19, 2012, 12:03:20 PM
Who has transferred from Wisconsin recently?

Boo Wade
Diamond Taylor


Only two I can think of

Mickey Perry

🏀

Quote from: MUfan12 on April 19, 2012, 12:09:44 PM
Ian Markolf. Who lost both the will to live, and the desire to play basketball. Until he started playing again.

Just used that in a Twitter war.

@adamhogeCBS trying very hard for Bo.

ATWizJr

Wait.  Situations CAN turn from happy to unhappy in one year?  Wow.

Hoopaloop

Phil Martelli - Philadelphia

Bo Ryan - Philadelphia

Dickholes

Coincidence?  I think not


http://sportsillustrated.cnn.com/2011/basketball/ncaa/12/19/todd.obrien/index.html
"Since you asked, since you pretend to know why I'm not posting here anymore, let me make this as clear as I can for you Ners.  You are the reason I'm not posting here anymore."   BMA725  http://www.muscoop.com/index.php?topic=28095.msg324636#msg324636

Canned Goods n Ammo

Quote from: PTM on April 19, 2012, 12:14:15 PM
Just used that in a Twitter war.

@adamhogeCBS trying very hard for Bo.

He's a UW alum, which is fine... but it definitely clouds his "professional" opinion.

Before I even knew he was a UW alum, I started reading his twitter during the Big 10 tourny and said "This guy sounds like a badger fan". Then I poked around, and voila! UW guy.

Hoopaloop

Quote from: PTM on April 19, 2012, 12:14:15 PM
Just used that in a Twitter war.

@adamhogeCBS trying very hard for Bo.

Adamhoge?  PRN is a big follower of his.   :D


He is an anti-Marquette tool, pro Bo Ryan pro Badger "reporter"
"Since you asked, since you pretend to know why I'm not posting here anymore, let me make this as clear as I can for you Ners.  You are the reason I'm not posting here anymore."   BMA725  http://www.muscoop.com/index.php?topic=28095.msg324636#msg324636

MattyWarrior

Bo is such a dickshine, big mistake letting him take an interview by himself. He showed who he really is, an angry old fart.

Canadian Dimes

#69
So Bo doesnt know how transfers work, but then spends the next 5 minutes explaining in detail how they work.

So Bo wasnt listening....but then comments on a number of their comments?


That plus everything else he says makes they guy look like a complete idiot!!

Should have stayed on vacation, cant think of a single parent or recruit that would be attarcted to anything he said.

chapman

Quote from: Hoopaloop on April 19, 2012, 12:36:20 PM
Phil Martelli - Philadelphia

Bo Ryan - Philadelphia

Dickholes

Coincidence?  I think not


http://sportsillustrated.cnn.com/2011/basketball/ncaa/12/19/todd.obrien/index.html

Putting Bo in with Philadelphia would be a high compliment if you've ever been to his hometown of Chester.  It really is the end of the earth.

Dish

Just listened to the interview, love em or hate em, kudos to Greenberg and Golic, fantastic job on their end to call out Ryan and not let him off the hook, really well done.

I know it's a title of another thread, but what SID in their right mind thought it was a good idea for him to go on? From what it sounded like from Ryan, the SID proactively pursued calling into Mike & Mike. One of the worst PR moves I've ever seen, made ten times worse by his response. As the interview went on, it was almost uncomfortable to listen to it, it was that bad.

What's funny/ironic is that how public this has become, it should really hurt them in recruiting. The funny/ironic part is the type of kid Wisco recruits (for the most part) won't be affected by this. They would go play for Bo/Wisco/his system anyway.

I was going to go post this on Scout, but Bo wouldn't allow me to.

MUMac

Quote from: Bocephys on April 19, 2012, 09:14:55 AM
I actually think you can transfer to another conference school, but you have to sit out two years.  So it's very cost prohibitive both for the player in terms of development and the school in terms of scholarship allocation.  At least it used to be that way, that may have changed though.

When bo tampered with, er, I mean, helped Brust get out of his NLI with Iowa, the Big 10 changed the transfer rules.  It no longer is two years and you can receive a scholarship.  That is why the Big 10 was included on the list.

Hoopaloop

Quote from: tower912 on April 19, 2012, 12:00:21 PM
I was contemplating this over lunch.    This is going to have a far larger negative national impact on UW than a bunch of 19-20 year old MU players not drinking in a bar had on MU.   AAU coaches/handlers/parents/HS coaches outside the state of Wisconsin are going to have a moment's pause before advocating their talented 16-17-18 year old go play in Madison.    Most parents of most kids (outside of Wisconsin, particularly the Milwaukee media market) are going to look at what happened in January as kids being dumb kids.    They are going to look at this as a coach and an institution sticking it to a kid who changed his mind.   And it will be remembered. 

It may, but Bo only recruits in a four state area anyway.  They've had so few transfers, I doubt it impacts them much at all.  It is fun to watch, especially their fans who are hypocritical with Buzz and Crean's transfers here at MU.
"Since you asked, since you pretend to know why I'm not posting here anymore, let me make this as clear as I can for you Ners.  You are the reason I'm not posting here anymore."   BMA725  http://www.muscoop.com/index.php?topic=28095.msg324636#msg324636

MUMac

Quote from: MUDish on April 19, 2012, 01:10:16 PM
Just listened to the interview, love em or hate em, kudos to Greenberg and Golic, fantastic job on their end to call out Ryan and not let him off the hook, really well done.

I know it's a title of another thread, but what SID in their right mind thought it was a good idea for him to go on? From what it sounded like from Ryan, the SID proactively pursued calling into Mike & Mike. One of the worst PR moves I've ever seen, made ten times worse by his response. As the interview went on, it was almost uncomfortable to listen to it, it was that bad.

What's funny/ironic is that how public this has become, it should really hurt them in recruiting. The funny/ironic part is the type of kid Wisco recruits (for the most part) won't be affected by this. They would go play for Bo/Wisco/his system anyway.

I was going to go post this on Scout, but Bo wouldn't allow me to.

I have done crisis management training in the past.  All I could think of through the whole interview is making UW a client.  WOW that was as bad a decision, AND preparation, as I have ever witnessed.  We have blasted MU's PR Dept on this board.  I think UW's might be even worse.

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