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esotericmindguy

Sultan, I disagree. Because he's 6'11 you want him to come over a top 150 recruit that was offered by other high major programs? With the 3 guard lineup that Buzz plays I'm all for having ample depth at guard. Do we need to go through the 6'11 wastes of space that have attended Marquette over the years? OSU made it to the finals with a 6'9 center, height is overrated in College basketball and we have height covered for the next 2 years. With Buzz's success in the Juco field I have no doubts he'll find a competent center in 2014 if need be.

And my great forensic mind not only tells me that the man pictured is indeed Trent Lockett, it also tells me that he will be attending Marquette this summer. I also agree that Buzz wouldn't do this without availability, it seems obvious to me that Durley will go to prep school and a certain player that never saw the floor will transfer.

GGGG

Quote from: esotericmindguy on April 14, 2012, 09:17:49 AM
Sultan, I disagree. Because he's 6'11 you want him to come over a top 150 recruit that was offered by other high major programs? With the 3 guard lineup that Buzz plays I'm all for having ample depth at guard. Do we need to go through the 6'11 wastes of space that have attended Marquette over the years? OSU made it to the finals with a 6'9 center, height is overrated in College basketball and we have height covered for the next 2 years. With Buzz's success in the Juco field I have no doubts he'll find a competent center in 2014 if need be.


Good point about a JUCO center, but we have a ton of guards...more than enough IMO.  But whatever...we will figure it out soon enough.

Tugg Speedman

If your concern is height ... Philip Nolan??

GGGG

Philip Nolan isn't a post.

Blackhat

Quote from: The Sultan of South Wayne on April 14, 2012, 11:33:00 AM
Philip Nolan isn't a post.

Then again neither was Jamil Wilson.   If Nolan can learn how to rebound.....   you may be 100% right sultan though if the kid is soft I don't want him.   Really surprised we can't get a 6'9" Marcus Jackson yet.

brewcity77

Quote from: esotericmindguy on April 14, 2012, 09:17:49 AMSultan, I disagree. Because he's 6'11 you want him to come over a top 150 recruit that was offered by other high major programs?

I'll be honest, I want both, but why does everyone seem to forget that Durley was also courting high-major programs? Durley himself was very quiet on who actually offered, but according to the family we at least know that he was being pursued by Texas A&M, Oklahoma, and Kansas State, and had an offer from South Florida. Maybe they aren't Duke or UCLA, but Durley was still getting high-major interest.

As far as my concern about losing Durley is the potential of not having any size ready to replace Otule and Gardner when they leave in 2014. It's easy to say "2014-15 is 3 years away", but right now, we are committed to every scholarship for the next 2 years. Granted, we do have 5 scholarships scheduled to open in 2014, but how many players are ready to step into a program for the first time and start and perform at a high level? Primarily quality JUCO centers and five-star prospects. Neither will necessarily be easy to come by.

However, if we have a guy who is coming in knowing the system, seasoned from practice, and is either a junior or redshirt sophomore, I'd feel a lot more comfortable about our frontcourt. Especially as no one we have slated to come in before the 2014 class projects as a center for that year. Sure, tOSU got by with a 6'9" center, but there was no doubt Sullinger was a center. Is Steve Taylor really a center, if that's the route we end up having to go? Is Juan Anderson?

Maybe it's just that from reading his interviews and Twitter that I have really come to like Durley, and from reading reports about how well-developed he is physically and how good he's been at the AAU level, I think he could be another diamond in the rough type player. He hasn't been as heavily recruited because of an injury his junior year and playing behind a McDonald's All-American right after recovering from that.

I just think we're better off with him here in 2012 than hoping that something works out in 2014, because if we're pinning our hopes on our stellar ability to find stud big men, I'm not confident everything will be hunky-dory.

Tugg Speedman

Aren't we just looking for a bridge to Diamond Stone?

wadesworld

Quote from: Stone Cold on April 14, 2012, 11:35:06 AM
Then again neither was Jamil Wilson.   If Nolan can learn how to rebound.....   you may be 100% right sultan though if the kid is soft I don't want him.   Really surprised we can't get a 6'9" Marcus Jackson yet.

But nobody expected Jamil to be a big.  He was a slasher throughout high school and was recruited as a wing/slasher.  Nolan is not a slasher.  He is a big who stands on the perimeter.  He does not have good ball handling.

The potential will get him looks.  If we had open scholarships I would love to have him because he is 6'10" and athletic, but to me he is not worth opening up a scholarship for.

Good thing Buzz is the one who has to figure out what to do and not me.

PGsHeroes32

That picture is without a doubt Lockett
Lazar picking up where the BIG 3 left off....

strotty

Quote from: HaywardsHeroes32 on April 14, 2012, 01:51:27 PM
That picture is without a doubt Lockett

I don't know why the picture is that big a deal. Marquette had interest, Rothstein said MU looked like the landing spot. This confirms interest, but it isn't a huge revelation.

wadesworld

Quote from: strotty on April 14, 2012, 03:28:26 PM
I don't know why the picture is that big a deal. Marquette had interest, Rothstein said MU looked like the landing spot. This confirms interest, but it isn't a huge revelation.

Considering all the talk about how we are also the favorites for Nunn and Nolan, to go along with the possibilities of Hood (somewhat unrealistic), Willms (probably not), and Parker (pipe dream), something as concrete as a picture of Buzz and Lockett sitting down together discussing whatever it is is a pretty darn big deal.  Anybody could throw around random rumors.  I could say "We're the favorites for Looney right now!" and that would be as concrete as people saying "We're the favorites for Nolan right now and we're going to land him."  There is nothing that can disprove that as of right now, but there is also nothing concrete other than Nolan saying he wants to go to Marquette.  How do we know Marquette wants him?  When you have a picture of a 1 year transfer who supposedly has interest in coming to Marquette sitting with Marquette's head coach, it's pretty clear that there is mutual interest.

On top of that, we're already full on scholarships for next year, so with Buzz and Lockett sitting down together, I doubt they decided just to sit down, have some tea, and check stuff out on an iPad just for the fun of it.  It's pretty clear at this point that there will be some sort of turnover heading into next season.  Seems like a pretty big deal to me.  To you?  Guess not.

It could also mean that Marquette is no longer interested in Hood and/or Nolan, considering they would require a scholarship next year.  So if we got Lockett, those 2 would be out or 2 players would have to not show up/transfer out.

It's a big deal.

brewcity77

Quote from: wadesworld on April 14, 2012, 04:03:27 PM
Considering all the talk about how we are also the favorites for Nunn and Nolan, to go along with the possibilities of Hood (somewhat unrealistic), Willms (probably not), and Parker (pipe dream), something as concrete as a picture of Buzz and Lockett sitting down together discussing whatever it is is a pretty darn big deal.  Anybody could throw around random rumors.  I could say "We're the favorites for Looney right now!" and that would be as concrete as people saying "We're the favorites for Nolan right now and we're going to land him."  There is nothing that can disprove that as of right now, but there is also nothing concrete other than Nolan saying he wants to go to Marquette.  How do we know Marquette wants him?  When you have a picture of a 1 year transfer who supposedly has interest in coming to Marquette sitting with Marquette's head coach, it's pretty clear that there is mutual interest.

On top of that, we're already full on scholarships for next year, so with Buzz and Lockett sitting down together, I doubt they decided just to sit down, have some tea, and check stuff out on an iPad just for the fun of it.  It's pretty clear at this point that there will be some sort of turnover heading into next season.  Seems like a pretty big deal to me.  To you?  Guess not.

It could also mean that Marquette is no longer interested in Hood and/or Nolan, considering they would require a scholarship next year.  So if we got Lockett, those 2 would be out or 2 players would have to not show up/transfer out.

It's a big deal.

Excellent post. At the very least, it proves we have interest, he has interest, and a visit took place, presumably on campus. With all the misinformation out there, that's about as concrete as it comes.

Dawson Rental

Quote from: AnotherMU84 on April 14, 2012, 11:44:28 AM
Aren't we just looking for a bridge to Diamond Stone?

Sorry, but LOL (I really did).  It seems that MU will have a legitimate shot at Stone.  That is so very far from being able to pencil him as an MU get.
You actually have a degree from Marquette?

Quote from: muguru
No...and after reading many many psosts from people on this board that do...I have to say I'm MUCH better off, if this is the type of "intelligence" a degree from MU gets you. It sure is on full display I will say that.

Dawson Rental

Quote from: strotty on April 14, 2012, 03:28:26 PM
I don't know why the picture is that big a deal. Marquette had interest, Rothstein said MU looked like the landing spot. This confirms interest, but it isn't a huge revelation.

Well said, young Strotty!
You actually have a degree from Marquette?

Quote from: muguru
No...and after reading many many psosts from people on this board that do...I have to say I'm MUCH better off, if this is the type of "intelligence" a degree from MU gets you. It sure is on full display I will say that.

Dawson Rental

Quote from: wadesworld on April 14, 2012, 04:03:27 PM
Considering all the talk about how we are also the favorites for Nunn and Nolan, to go along with the possibilities of Hood (somewhat unrealistic), Willms (probably not), and Parker (pipe dream), something as concrete as a picture of Buzz and Lockett sitting down together discussing whatever it is is a pretty darn big deal.  Anybody could throw around random rumors.  I could say "We're the favorites for Looney right now!" and that would be as concrete as people saying "We're the favorites for Nolan right now and we're going to land him."  There is nothing that can disprove that as of right now, but there is also nothing concrete other than Nolan saying he wants to go to Marquette.  How do we know Marquette wants him?  When you have a picture of a 1 year transfer who supposedly has interest in coming to Marquette sitting with Marquette's head coach, it's pretty clear that there is mutual interest.

On top of that, we're already full on scholarships for next year, so with Buzz and Lockett sitting down together, I doubt they decided just to sit down, have some tea, and check stuff out on an iPad just for the fun of it.  It's pretty clear at this point that there will be some sort of turnover heading into next season.  Seems like a pretty big deal to me.  To you?  Guess not.

It could also mean that Marquette is no longer interested in Hood and/or Nolan, considering they would require a scholarship next year.  So if we got Lockett, those 2 would be out or 2 players would have to not show up/transfer out.

It's a big deal.

Oh, I'm certain that Marquette has an interest in Hood.  After his freshman year, I'm sure that getting him away from a perennial top ten program would be a real feat.
You actually have a degree from Marquette?

Quote from: muguru
No...and after reading many many psosts from people on this board that do...I have to say I'm MUCH better off, if this is the type of "intelligence" a degree from MU gets you. It sure is on full display I will say that.

muvanwilder

The bottom line is adding Lockett makes us a better team next yr. Buzz knows this and will do his best to land him, and then figure out what to do after.  Buzz as always made it known he will never stop recruiting regardless of scholarship situation. Hence he's always on the lookout to improve the team.

strotty

Quote from: brewcity77 on April 14, 2012, 04:14:03 PM
Excellent post. At the very least, it proves we have interest, he has interest, and a visit took place, presumably on campus. With all the misinformation out there, that's about as concrete as it comes.

I take CBS and Jon Rothstein as credible, so that's why I don't think it's a big deal. Before the picture was shown, Marquette looked to be in a good position. I assumed a visit would take place.

wadesworld

Quote from: LittleMurs on April 14, 2012, 04:51:16 PM
Oh, I'm certain that Marquette has an interest in Hood.  After his freshman year, I'm sure that getting him away from a perennial top ten program would be a real feat.

Huh?  Rodney Hood is at Mississippi State, not Michigan State.  Nothing perennial about them.

brewcity77

Quote from: strotty on April 14, 2012, 07:13:07 PM
I take CBS and Jon Rothstein as credible, so that's why I don't think it's a big deal. Before the picture was shown, Marquette looked to be in a good position. I assumed a visit would take place.

When it comes to recruiting interest, even credible sources will quickly jump on an offhand comment or turn a rumor into a fact in a heartbeat. Not doubting Rothstein, but saying there's interest could mean a phone call, an inquiry, or a best friend's preference. Just saying the picture proving the visit is a lot more substantive, and is also a very strong indicator that someone scheduled to be here next year won't be.

mr.MUskie

I think they're just trying to figure out who owes what on the bar tab.

Tugg Speedman

Quote from: mr.MUskie on April 14, 2012, 08:57:07 PM
I think they're just trying to figure out who owes what on the bar tab.

Larry Williams

The Process

Quote from: mr.MUskie on April 14, 2012, 08:57:07 PM
I think they're just trying to figure out who owes what on the bar tab.

That's odd - that doesn't look like Apartment 720
Relax. Respect the Process.

DomJamesToTheBasket

Quote from: muvanwilder on April 14, 2012, 06:40:53 PM
The bottom line is adding Lockett makes us a better team next yr. Buzz knows this and will do his best to land him, and then figure out what to do after.  Buzz as always made it known he will never stop recruiting regardless of scholarship situation. Hence he's always on the lookout to improve the team.

+1

There have been hints in this thread, as well as others, that there will be a transfer.  My ex sister-in law's 2nd cousin's dentist's friend's next-door-neighbor has mentioned a certain transfer to a less frigid school.

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