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KC_Warrior

ASU beat writer just tweeted this out:

@doughaller: "Told that in addition to Iowa State, Marquette & Creighton have interest in Arizona State junior Trent Lockett."

Would be a nice addition to the team if true.

wadesworld

He's transferring after his junior year.  Did ASU have a coaching change or something where he would not be required to sit out for a year?

MU Buff

Quote from: wadesworld on April 04, 2012, 06:31:42 PM
He's transferring after his junior year.  Did ASU have a coaching change or something where he would not be required to sit out for a year?

I think he is graduating this summer so he can play right away next year.

KC_Warrior

He's from Minnesota and his mom is sick so he wants to be closer to home.  

I'm assuming he'd apply for a waiver to play right away.

wadesworld

Quote from: KC_Warrior on April 04, 2012, 06:33:10 PM
He's from Minnesota and his mom is sick so he wants to be closer to home.  

I'm assuming he'd apply for a waiver to play right away.

Oh gotcha.  That would definitely help if something opens up for him.  Between him, Mayo, Blue, and Taylor you would hope/think one of them would step up and be the go-to guard that we look for in terms of scoring.  That would be a lot of guard depth, and with Gardner and OTule at the 5 and Wilson and Taylor at the 4 we could definitely be a strong team again.

bamamarquettefan

Yes, I read about him being eligible a couple of weeks ago, but didn't know we were in the mix.

I didn't rate him as a huge contributor, partly because Arizona State's defense was so bad, and his turnovers were high - though that could be a team problem since they were the 4th worse team in the country at turnovers.

Really wouldn't mind Junior having another senior in the backcourt rotations, and the guy was top 100 in getting to the line, top 300 in steals and good blocked shots for a guard, and top 300 in eFG% due to hitting 41% of treys and 52% on twos - again very good for a guards.

Sounds like a guy who could really prosper with much better teammates here than on the ASU team that went 10-21 with their average loss being by double digits (57-68).

I'm intrigued.
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bamamarquettefan

For those who don't read it, Pomeroy now calculates which 5 players of the last decade you are most like each season.  Arizona State was terrible the past two seasons, but when they were pretty good (NIT) his freshman year, Pomeroy says Lockett was most similar to Zach Graham, Antonio Pena, Nikola Cvetinovic AND the Quincy Pondexter as a freshman and Wesley Matthews as a freshman.

If there is any chance his senior year could be anything like Pondexter, or better yet like WESLEY MATTHEWS I say give Buzz a year to work with him and we could get something good in a 6--foot-4 senior guard, might be worth a shot.
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Canned Goods n Ammo

Sign him up.

However, if MU is really interested in him for next season, I assume the coaches already know of some pending roster changes that we are unaware of.

Let the rampant speculation begin.

brewcity77

Quote from: 2002MUalum on April 04, 2012, 07:18:13 PM
Sign him up.

However, if MU is really interested in him for next season, I assume the coaches already know of some pending roster changes that we are unaware of.

Let the rampant speculation begin.

My thoughts exactly. Having room in 2013 is one thing, that's still a year off, but 2012, not so much. Certainly makes one wonder...

chapman

If a spot opens up it's a no-brainer given it's for one year and we can't afford to sign another freshman.  He's got some very good qualities (can score, shoots at a high clip, can rebound well for a guard).  Could be very useful to have an extra scorer in the backcourt - it's naive to think we have enough scoring when we're relying on Mayo to take a big leap based on a good tournament, Blue to improve based on hope, and Taylor to transition well from Juco.  To really feel good about our backcourt scoring we need at least two of the three to make a big leap - very possible, but would feel a lot better with someone proven.  Lockett has already proven he can get a basket.

Blackhat

a second-team All-Pac-10 pick in 2010-11 and a first-team Pac-10 All-Academic pick in 2010-11.

bamamarquettefan

agreed, and I think you are always recruiting - in case someone leaves even if you don't know it's going to happen.    I'm certainly not advocating anyone should or will not be here next year, just that he is the kind of guy you want to have a line too.

Guess ever since Mbakwe's disappearance I've been paranoid and hoping there is a Plan B always ready.
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Canadian Dimes

I think Buzz insinuated pretty clearly that Durleys spot may have gone away due to the return of otule on his show.  Reading between the lines.  I think we sign someone with one year of eligibilty and only 3 freshman come in.  Then otule gets the one year players schollie for his 6 th year .

That is my guess as to what happens

PGsHeroes32

If room is made, hes going to be a gopher.
Lazar picking up where the BIG 3 left off....

GGGG

But my understanding is that they already dont have room for Mbakwe.

Norm

Quote from: Canadian Dimes on April 04, 2012, 07:42:50 PM
I think Buzz insinuated pretty clearly that Durleys spot may have gone away due to the return of otule on his show.  Reading between the lines.  I think we sign someone with one year of eligibilty and only 3 freshman come in.  Then otule gets the one year players schollie for his 6 th year .

That is my guess as to what happens
What did Buzz say? Does Buzz really want to send away another player who signed a LOI before he ever sets foot on campus?

brewcity77

Quote from: Norm on April 04, 2012, 09:09:51 PM
What did Buzz say? Does Buzz really want to send away another player who signed a LOI before he ever sets foot on campus?

Mainly just that things had changed because of Otule's injury and likely sixth year. It was veiled and didn't really say anything for certain one way or the other, but it certainly didn't sound like an affirmation of Durley's place going forward. FWIW, I'm still hoping he ends up here.

nathanziarek

Are we pretty much assuming Otule is here for six? I'm not even thinking in terms of eligibility ... I'm just not sure I'd want to stick around in college for 6 years. Every time I hear there's a potential for over-recruiting for Otule's 6th year, my assumption is he'll decide to move on.
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MuMark

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What I took from Buzz's comments is that now that Otule will be here for 2 more years it might not be best for Durley to come into a situation where he has no chance of playing for 2 years(especially after basically not playing this year).

The decision will certainly be up to AD. Lets see how it plays out.

ps. Buzz has said Chris will be here for his 6th year so until we hear otherwise I'd assume that's how it will play out.

GGGG

Quote from: Utile et Dulce on April 04, 2012, 09:22:19 PM
Are we pretty much assuming Otule is here for six? I'm not even thinking in terms of eligibility ... I'm just not sure I'd want to stick around in college for 6 years.

::)

brewcity77

Quote from: Utile et Dulce on April 04, 2012, 09:22:19 PM
Are we pretty much assuming Otule is here for six? I'm not even thinking in terms of eligibility ... I'm just not sure I'd want to stick around in college for 6 years. Every time I hear there's a potential for over-recruiting for Otule's 6th year, my assumption is he'll decide to move on.

Yes, because that's what Buzz has said repeatedly. Under those circumstances, it seems likely to place more faith in what Buzz thinks CO will do than what posters would do if they were in that circumstance.

And let's be honest...if CO has a chance to stay around one more year, with everything paid including additional education, and he has a chance to possibly play on a Final Four team that most MU fans seem to think will be our best team in recent memory, wouldn't he want a chance to be a part of that? I know I would.

Norm

If it were me, I wouldn't bank on Otule staying healthy the next two years. He's pretty injury prone and has only had one effective season without major injuries.

AZWarrior

All this talk of rights.  So little talk of responsibilities.

MU82

Evan Eschmeyer, who had bad feet, spent 6 years at Northwestern and was a star in Year 6.

Like all Mildcats, however, he never was on an NCAA tourney team.

Just one example. There are lots of reasons a non-NBA prospect would want a sixth year. A free Master's degree ranks pretty high on that list.
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mugrad2006

Quote from: brewcity77 on April 04, 2012, 09:38:30 PM
Yes, because that's what Buzz has said repeatedly. Under those circumstances, it seems likely to place more faith in what Buzz thinks CO will do than what posters would do if they were in that circumstance.

And let's be honest...if CO has a chance to stay around one more year, with everything paid including additional education, and he has a chance to possibly play on a Final Four team that most MU fans seem to think will be our best team in recent memory, wouldn't he want a chance to be a part of that? I know I would.

And by most fans, we mean MU hoops junkies who project the performance of a team two years down the road. In other words, not even enough fans to fill the empty seats in the student section last year.

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