First Buzz to Kentucky tweet....

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Chas Wolfe ‏ @highmajorscoop  Reply  Retweet  Favorite · Open
Calipari checks off the National Title on his bucket list! Cal to the Knicks? Buzz Williams to UK? Shaka to Marquette? Boom...boom...boom!

Would he really be #1 on their list? Scott Drew seems to utilize their same "style", I would think he would be near or at the top with Buzz and maybe Wright.

[Goose]

Buzz would be #1 on any school list that wants to recruit NC caliber type players. If Buzz can recruite E8 players at MU he can get anybody to UK.

[BrewCity83]

It would suck for Buzz or the next coach to have to face the sanctions at UK that Cal will be running from...

[Goose]

Think this is far from being a real story at this time. What would really suck if this happened would be seeing our dream team playing in Kentucky in two or three years. High, high hopes from this fan that in two years we are talking about a very special team.
UK had been taking care of players for as long as I can remember and seldom get caught. It is a special place in college hoops and they do know how to support a program. Usually hate the place but really enjoyed watching this team play over last few months.

[THEultimateWARRIOR]

It would suck for Buzz or the next coach to have to face the sanctions at UK that Cal will be running from...

+1 I cant wait to see how long it takes for them to get stripped of this national championship because of NCAA violations.

[mu03eng]

My cousin and his wife and her whole family are UK alums and huge supporters.  I asked them how they felt about the assumption that Kentucky is cheating and their response was, oh we know it goes on but don't care because we won the national championship.  Plus they think the cheating is pretty covert so it'd be tough to prove it enough to take away the NC.  Very matter of fact, it was kind of funny.

I've gotten to the point where I want some huge scandal now because the NCAA is so fouled up we need something catastrophic to blow the whole thing up and start over.

[Goose]

UK has been doing things differently for years and this is how it goes down there. I remember hearing about Kyle Macy's summer job in the stables thirty years ago. If you think that the NCAA has not tried for years to bust these guys you are kidding yourself. At this point why would they need to cheat? Every top recruit gets maximum exposure and will be first round draft pick in a year or two. Landscape has changed and they are the breading ground for future millionaires.
Schools that need to cheat are the Baylors or Memphis type schools. They are promising hopeful draft picks and that is different thing. If you are only recruiting one and dones there is zero reason to cheat.

[MarquetteDano]

My cousin and his wife and her whole family are UK alums and huge supporters.  I asked them how they felt about the assumption that Kentucky is cheating and their response was, oh we know it goes on but don't care because we won the national championship.  Plus they think the cheating is pretty covert so it'd be tough to prove it enough to take away the NC.  Very matter of fact, it was kind of funny.

I've gotten to the point where I want some huge scandal now because the NCAA is so fouled up we need something catastrophic to blow the whole thing up and start over.

Now that UK won the NC there will be some first rate investigative reporters that will be looking into the program very closely.  This would be a monster story.  Has any program ever had a National Championship vacated?  Final Fours: yes.  But it would be a monster, Pullitzer Prize type story.

[MerrittsMustache]

UK has been doing things differently for years and this is how it goes down there. I remember hearing about Kyle Macy's summer job in the stables thirty years ago. If you think that the NCAA has not tried for years to bust these guys you are kidding yourself. At this point why would they need to cheat? Every top recruit gets maximum exposure and will be first round draft pick in a year or two. Landscape has changed and they are the breading ground for future millionaires.
Schools that need to cheat are the Baylors or Memphis type schools. They are promising hopeful draft picks and that is different thing. If you are only recruiting one and dones there is zero reason to cheat.

Yep, just ask Derrick Rose.

UK isn't the only school whose fans don't care about cheating. The NCAA can strip teams of wins or Final Fours or even National Championships but it really doesn't matter because the experiences were still there.

If it was somehow ruled that Marquette Player X received improper benefits in 2002-03 and MU was forced to vacate the Final Four season, would anyone look upon it differently and pretend like it never happened? Absolutely not! It was still an amazing run and an amazing experience. The NCAA can't take that away.

[MarquetteDano]

UK has been doing things differently for years and this is how it goes down there. I remember hearing about Kyle Macy's summer job in the stables thirty years ago. If you think that the NCAA has not tried for years to bust these guys you are kidding yourself. At this point why would they need to cheat? Every top recruit gets maximum exposure and will be first round draft pick in a year or two. Landscape has changed and they are the breading ground for future millionaires.
Schools that need to cheat are the Baylors or Memphis type schools. They are promising hopeful draft picks and that is different thing. If you are only recruiting one and dones there is zero reason to cheat.

Near exact same words a reporter once said regarding Michigan's program.

[Goose]

Merritt,
Correct on Rose but look where he played. Different story at UK. Not saying that things are not dirty down there but the need to be stupid is less. Agreed on the culture of things in college hoops. I am in the minority but would take a year like UK had this year and take my chances any day with NCAA.

[Tugg Speedman]

+1 I cant wait to see how long it takes for them to get stripped of this national championship because of NCAA violations.

Remember that last year the Chicago Sun-Times ran a story that Cal paid Davis' father.  The family screamed so loud that the Sun-Times took down the story.

And their were stories that Eric Blodsoe was paid
http://www.nytimes.com/2010/05/29/sports/ncaabasketball/29recruit.html?_r=1

So Cal did not leave is slimy past in Memphis.  And I don't buy the argument that Cal is so big now that he does not have to pay players anymore.  Paying and fixing is what he does.

[THEultimateWARRIOR]

Yep, just ask Derrick Rose.

Yea, he did play for Calipari. Wonder if Kentucky players have to take the ACT? I'm sure Calipari has hired look-a-likes to take them. Or maybe even clones  ....

[Tugg Speedman]

Related note ...

The NCAA now has a 30% graduation rule or you cannot play in the tourney.  Uconn is getting pinched which is why they are ineligible for post season next year.

NCAA rule says if a player leaves early for the NBA, he doesn't count so long as he finishes the semester.  So as long as Kentucky players finish with a D- in basket weaving and then goes pro early, Kentucky is in the clear.  Keep the kid for four years and he comes up three credits short of graduating, then you risk getting banned from the tourney.

[Silkk the Shaka]

Remember that last year the Chicago Sun-Times ran a story that Cal paid Davis' father.  The family screamed so loud that the Sun-Times took down the story.

And their were stories that Eric Blodsoe was paid
http://www.nytimes.com/2010/05/29/sports/ncaabasketball/29recruit.html?_r=1

So Cal did not leave is slimy past in Memphis.  And I don't buy the argument that Cal is so big now that he does not have to pay players anymore.  Paying and fixing is what he does.

There should be no their there.

[Tugg Speedman]

There should be no their there.

Ok we get that an English teacher spanked you with a ruler and it had a big effect on your life.  Should I do a poll about it?

[Goose]

Does anyone think the tweet story actually could happen?

[MarquetteDano]

Does anyone think the tweet story actually could happen?

Even if Kentucky was interested in Buzz (which I doubt they would be) why would he go to a place that treated his friend, Gillespie, so poorly?

More interested to see if Cal leaves.  I would love to get him out of college basketball.  But, the carousel would be spinning again.

[PuertoRicanNightmare]

Does anyone think the tweet story actually could happen?

There is no way Kentucky would hire Billy Gillespie's former assistant.

[BrewCity83]

Even if Kentucky was interested in Buzz (which I doubt they would be) why would he go to a place that treated his friend, Gillespie, so poorly?

More interested to see if Cal leaves.  I would love to get him out of college basketball.  But, the carousel would be spinning again.

Calipari to the NBA
Crean to Kentucky
Stevens to Indiana
??? to Butler

[PBRme]

Pastner to KY

[MUBurrow]

Calipari to the NBA
Crean to Kentucky
Stevens to Indiana
??? to Butler

+1. I think this would be how things would go. Cal would give Crean a ringing endorsement on his way out the door, and after Indiana was one of only two teams to beat UK all year, this would go over well with the fans. A little IK here, a little IK there, and there it is.

[Goose]

No one really thinks Buzz would be on UK short list if job opened? Maybe I am the only guy that holds Buzz in elite coach status or we all hope his name does not come up.

[brewcity77]

No one really thinks Buzz would be on UK short list if job opened? Maybe I am the only guy that holds Buzz in elite coach status or we all hope his name does not come up.

I think Buzz would be on the short list. That's one job that would at least make me a bit nervous. How could they not be on Buzz? In his four years here, he's taken commitments from four top-50 (or likely) RSCI players in Cadougan, Blue, Jamil, and Burton. He's added several other top-100 players. He clearly has a good eye for talent, as he has turned three JUCOs into NBA players (assuming DJO and Jae). And he has recruited top-100 players from California, Wisconsin, Texas, Georgia, and Illinois.

Bottom line, he can recruit anywhere, Marquette had virtually no drop-off despite losing the Three Amigos after year one and an entire highly ranked recruiting class, and he's won 22+ games for 4 straight years including 2 Sweet 16s. If he added a Final Four, he'd exceed Crean's accomplishments without a doubt.

He'd be on anyone's short list.

[GGGG]

There is no way Kentucky would hire Billy Gillespie's former assistant.

This is exactly what I think the issue would be.  I don't think Buzz and UK would be a good fit at all and I think UK knows this.

I think they would go hard after Billy Donovan.  I think Sean Miller would also get a look.