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Quote from: MU Avenue on March 26, 2012, 07:31:34 PM
The flurry over Buzz Williams' future at Marquette has become absurd.

Do we know any more today than we knew yesterday?

Has Buzz or anyone else on the inside commented publicly? By saying nothing, Buzz is only confirming that he is considering a move, no?

Has there been news coverage that has moved the story forward?

Does anyone know a single fact?

I know a few facts:

Buzz Williams is under contract to coach the Marquette basketball team;
Marquette's basketball program is superior to SMU's in every regard;
Buzz is a celebrity who benefits from having his name in the news;
It would be disastrous to Larry Williams' career for Buzz to leave MU;
Marquette just signed a new, local recruit last week;
Major college basketball coaches rarely, if ever, take a "step down" by choice, regardless of money.

There are other things I "think" and other things I've "heard" today (some from some pretty decent sources, but far from Buzz, Williams, Pilarz, etc), but those are the facts I "know."

My educated conclusion is this: This is a power play. There was some tension this past fall, but not because Pilarz and Williams were "new" but because of the fallout from the scandal in the news last fall. The simple fact is the players at issue were under Buzz's supervision. Fair or not, heavy is the head that wears the crown. Buzz took some flak. Now he's "brushing back" and asserting some power. It would be very bad for many people at Marquette professionally if Buzz left. They won't let it happen.

Anyways, time and success heal all wounds. Everything is going to be fine. Everyone should relax.



We Are Marquette

nyg

Quote from: The Sultan of South Wayne on March 26, 2012, 07:58:32 PM
Players meeting has been called for tomorrow.  Two independent people know about it and  have said not to worry however.  But I still am worried....

BTW, I am not kidding about this.

To squash all the rumors and end of the year assessments.  

Dr. Blackheart

Quote from: The Sultan of South Wayne on March 26, 2012, 07:58:32 PM
Players meeting has been called for tomorrow.  Two independent people know about it and  have said not to worry however.  But I still am worried....

BTW, I am not kidding about this.

Will Corey's brother be leaking any news to ESPN before the meeting?

Tugg Speedman

If what I passed along is true it means Buzz is in Milwaukee (not Dallas) and talking to Pillarz (not SMU).

That is good.  Check Mitchell field for private planes to Dallas flights tomorrow.  If Buzz is still at MU wednesday, this is over.

real chili 83

Quote from: nyg on March 26, 2012, 08:06:05 PM
To squash all the rumors and end of the year assessments.  

End of the year assessments......is that common/coincidence for a team to do that now?

mr.MUskie

Quote from: real chili 83 on March 26, 2012, 08:09:50 PM
End of the year assessments......is that common/coincidence for a team to do that now?


...and wouldn't they get more than 1 day's notice?

4everwarriors

Quote from: The Sultan of South Wayne on March 26, 2012, 07:58:32 PM
Players meeting has been called for tomorrow.  Two independent people know about it and  have said not to worry however.  But I still am worried....

BTW, I am not kidding about this.


Are the players being shuttled to The Quon.? Keep followin' ESPN.
"Give 'Em Hell, Al"

MUMac

Quote from: real chili 83 on March 26, 2012, 08:03:13 PM
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Guarantee we pass 60 now.  Just wait till Hoops and Goose finish cleaning the kitchen from dinner tonight  ;D

60?  Come on man, shoot higher than that.  The comment by Another84 should get us to 60.  Add in Sultan's comment and if we don't break 100, there is something wrong with us.  Come on everyone, we can do it!!

Tugg Speedman

If the team met with LW and Pillarz and promised them to be better behaved, would the admin back off Buzz?  Would they do that?  Would it matter?

(assuming this is the real issue causing all this)

real chili 83

Quote from: MUMac on March 26, 2012, 08:11:48 PM
60?  Come on man, shoot higher than that.  The comment by Another84 should get us to 60.  Add in Sultan's comment and if we don't break 100, there is something wrong with us.  Come on everyone, we can do it!!

60 is the number I picked in Vegas again! 

chapman

Quote from: awilhelmscream on March 26, 2012, 08:00:24 PM
Do you know what time?

10:17 AM.  They chose the awkward time as a statement in support of Buzz.

nyg

Quote from: real chili 83 on March 26, 2012, 08:09:50 PM
End of the year assessments......is that common/coincidence for a team to do that now?

Why not?  Maybe he gave them some days off to chill out.  If it was an emergency meeting, he would have done it tonight.  Just a guess and how do you know the meeting wasn't scheduled days ago.  

real chili 83

15 more to go.

Last night, it was a new page every 10 minutes.

Should be at 60 by 10:43.

MUMac

Quote from: nyg on March 26, 2012, 08:14:02 PM
Why not?  Maybe he gave them some days off to chill out.  If it was an emergency meeting, he would have done it tonight.  Just a guess and how do you know the meeting wasn't scheduled days ago.  
Yep.  Agreed.  

If it was something earth breaking, they don't call it a day in advance, they call it an hour in advance.

LON

Quote from: AnotherMU84 on March 26, 2012, 08:12:34 PM
If the team met with LW and Pillarz and promised them to be better behaved, would the admin back off Buzz?  Would they do that?  Would it matter?

(assuming this is the real issue causing all this)

I heard they were already on Double Secret Probation.

And sh*t got real when Derrick Wilson was caught chatting up Larry Williams' wife.  Larry Williams overheard him talking about "sensuous" fruit or something like that.

/not confirmed by me

nathanziarek

This is not moving nearly fast enough for it to reach 100 before the story is over.
Marquette Basketball on Reddit: http://reddit.com/r/mubb

mu03eng

I think this stuff is over.  Buzz is staying and I think we actually had an impact(those that emailed).  I suspect LW realized he had a crap storm on his hands and moved quickly to suppress it.  I also agree with whom every posted that this was Buzz leveraging the situation.  It was basically Buzz saying listen, trust me or this thing won't work.  Hopefully that puts an end to the micromanagement.
"A Plan? Oh man, I hate plans. That means were gonna have to do stuff. Can't we just have a strategy......or a mission statement."

TJ

Quote from: MU Avenue on March 26, 2012, 07:31:34 PM
Has Buzz or anyone else on the inside commented publicly? By saying nothing, Buzz is only confirming that he is considering a move, no?
No.  By saying nothing, Buzz is saying nothing.  By inferring things from nothing, you are making unsubstantiated leaps and grasping at straws.  So right in line with the rest of the thread.

spiral97

I just landed in Dallas this morning at 10:30AM and there was no Buzz at the airport.  There was a slight hum but definitely not a Buzz.
Once a warrior always a warrior.. even if the feathers must now come with a beak.

GGGG

The meeting is not about end of the year assessments.  

MU Fan in Connecticut

I just heard "Rumour Has It."  Adele must know something about Buzz's future plans.

nathanziarek

Quote from: The Sultan of South Wayne on March 26, 2012, 08:23:04 PM
The meeting is not about end of the year assessments.  
This thread is too confusing. Posters I normally respect have been playing head games all day, and now I can't figure what to trust.

I'm just going to accept that whatever happens is outside my control...and keep posting so we break 100 pages.
Marquette Basketball on Reddit: http://reddit.com/r/mubb

MUMac

The question that I haven't seen asked and needs to be is what happened to SMU18?  Did his mom take away computer privileges?  He hasn't been here trolling for nearly 10 hours.  That is far too long for nap time.  Color me concerned.

timinatorx3


TJ

Quote from: mu03eng on March 26, 2012, 08:21:17 PM
I think this stuff is over.  Buzz is staying and I think we actually had an impact(those that emailed).  I suspect LW realized he had a crap storm on his hands and moved quickly to suppress it.  I also agree with whom every posted that this was Buzz leveraging the situation.  It was basically Buzz saying listen, trust me or this thing won't work.  Hopefully that puts an end to the micromanagement.
Or it was all much ado about nothing, which is absolutely just as likely.

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