MU crapped their shorts in BE tourney, do they get a 4 seed?

[madtownwarrior]

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[MerrittsMustache]

No. 3-seed. The loss changes nothing.

[brewcity77]

No. Saying 4 is more over reactionary than my opinion that after tonight, anything less than 6 wins from here on out is a failure.

[JamilJaeJamailJrJuan]

No. We were a three seed whether we won the Big East Tournament or lost tonight. Tonight's loss only hurts us fans...it doesn't hurt out NCAA seed. It gives Buzz something to chew their ass out about for the next week so this horsesh!t performance doesn't happen again.

[g0lden3agle]

People seem to forget how the selection committee consistently gives us a lower seed than we fans seem to think we deserve.  I would be fine with a 4.

[MUMac]

3.  We were the top 3 seed going in.  Had a chance at a 2, but no chance at a 4.

[Norm]

Well, we have lost 2 of the last 3, and looked really bad in both losses. Will the committee consider that? The way MU has been treated by the committee in the past, I would not be shocked if MU ends up a 4 seed

[Mu2323]

People seem to forget how the selection committee consistently gives us a lower seed than we fans seem to think we deserve.  I would be fine with a 4.

Are you joking me? They always give us a seed better than we deserve. We were a 6 seed a few years ago and deserved a 8/9. Last year we were an 11 should have been 12 and we were sweating it out.

[Avenue Commons]

I would not be surprised with a 4 seed. It's not crazy to think we are the 13th or 14th highest seed overall.

[brewcity77]

I would not be surprised with a 4 seed. It's not crazy to think we are the 13th or 14th highest seed overall.

Maybe not crazy, but worth a diagnosis. I think it's pretty hard to justify 12 better teams. Especially after GT lost, and knowing either IU or UW will lose tomorrow.

[jsglow]

Georgetown's loss today helped.  I'd speculate that we'll be about 12th on the S-curve.  GT slides to the 4 seed line.  Gotta watch for folks like Indiana and others from the 'old 4' seed group.

[cheebs09]

Looking at The Bracket Project's Bracket Matrix, here are the teams directly behind us:

Michigan, Baylor, Indiana, Georgetown, Indiana, Wisconsin, Temple, Florida State.

We are the highest 3 seed in this case. 4 of these teams will have to jump us. You can cross off Georgetown and one of Wisconsin or Indiana based on their game. If Baylor beats Kansas, I think they would be ahead of us. I think Michigan has to get to the BTT finals, which would mean beating OSU again. Michigan could jump us, especially beating OSU on the way to the BTT finals. Indiana getting to the finals also could do it with some of their big wins. Wisconsin may have to win it all. Temple won't jump us. I think Florida State would have to beat Duke or UNC again to pass us. So it's possible, but I wouldn't call it likely that we fall to a 4.

Granted, all the above assumes that's the way the committee is thinking too.

[g0lden3agle]

Are you joking me? They always give us a seed better than we deserve. We were a 6 seed a few years ago and deserved a 8/9. Last year we were an 11 should have been 12 and we were sweating it out.

Last year's 11 can be chalked up to the fact that seeding was so whacky with so many BEast schools in the tourney, considering we were the last at large team.  I don't think that 6 two years ago was as crazy as you're making it out to be.  And then before that 3 straight years of 24-9 record come selection Sunday ending up seeded 6 twice and 8 once, all on the lower end of the projections for where we thought we were going to be. 

[KenoshaWarrior]

People seem to forget how the selection committee consistently gives us a lower seed than we fans seem to think we deserve.  I would be fine with a 4.

I can only remember twice when we got hosed in seed.  
in 2010 we got a 6 seed yet we were on the bubble the last week of the season.

The only time we got hosed was Last year and the Final 4 team which should have been a two

[MerrittsMustache]

I can only remember twice when we got hosed in seed.  
in 2010 we got a 6 seed yet we were on the bubble the last week of the season.

The only time we got hosed was Last year and the Final 4 team which should have been a two

In 2002, MU got hosed indirectly because Tulsa got a 12-seed but should have been in the 6-8 range. They had an RPI in the uppers 20s IIRC.

[NYWarrior]

In 2002, MU got hosed indirectly because Tulsa got a 12-seed but should have been in the 6-8 range. They had an RPI in the uppers 20s IIRC.

RPI of 31 in 2002 for Tulsa, http://statsheet.com/mcb/teams/tulsa/2001-2002