Another Aaron Durley thread

[Dawson Rental]

I think he should go to a year of prep school, and then spend seven years working with elite private coaches and trainers - with equal emphasis on ball handling, post-moves and three point shooting.  Pick up 20-30 pounds of muscle and really develop his all around game.  Then he can enroll at Marquette as a 27-year old freshman, immediately redshirt so that he can fine-tune his game and pack on another 10 lbs of muscle.  Then, finally, my plan will come to fruition when we have finely tuned, chiseled 300 pound basketball machine -- a point-center with four years of eligibility remaining.  He'd probably win multiple Wooden awards...if he doesn't go one and done.

Or, I guess he could just come to Marquette next summer, play limited minutes in his Freshman year (and maybe even longer), and hopefully develop into a solid contributor over the next four years.

But he only played four times his senior year!  Sniffle, sniffle.

[GGGG]

Redshirting is not some magical cure-all that automatically makes a player better. It also eats up a scholarship for 5 years instead of 4.

Let's look at down the road in Madison for instance.  Honestly, it is hard to see many negatives in the redshirting of Brian Butch.  But there is really no evidence that he would have been worse by starting the clock a year earlier.

On the opposite side of the coin, JP Gavinski tied up a scholarship for five years and never got any better.  Evan Anderson will likely follow in his footsteps - he has been lept in the rotation by a true freshman.

Put it this way - the cost of tying up a scholarship is probably greater than the extra benefit that the player gets his redshirt year.

[THEultimateWARRIOR]

This would of never been a problem if we were able to land Blaise Mbargorba, but SMU got him instead. Scout grade of 92, top 20 for center, and a 7 footer. Man I would of loved to see him in an MU uni.

[strotty]

I'm pretty sure Durley is going to be at Marquette next year.

[reinko]

This would of never been a problem if we were able to land Blaise Mbargorba, but SMU got him instead. Scout grade of 92, top 20 for center, and a 7 footer. Man I would of loved to see him in an MU uni.

Ah yes, because HS rankings predict assured success.

Best regards,
Jae Crowder, Jimmy Butler, Darius Johnson-Odom, Lazar Hayward, Davante Gardner, Todd Mayo, Erik Williams

[🏀]

This would of never been a problem if we were able to land Blaise Mbargorba, but SMU got him instead. Scout grade of 92, top 20 for center, and a 7 footer. Man I would of loved to see him in an MU uni.

Wait, you just ignored the three pages of crap you started with this idiotic thread and posted about Mbargorba?

Got to be kidding me.

[lab_warrior]

Amal.    Durley was all state as a sophomore.  (Small schools)   Was doing well at AAU and then transferred and tore his achilles.    Ended up behind a top 10 prospect.    Still rated one of the top 25 players in Texas.   Felt bad about the way he abused the bigs at a mid-major school he visited.   Knows he has to work.   Has a positive attitude.   Is ahead of where Otule was at the same point of his career.    Doesn't have to contribute for a couple of years.    Is 6'11, 280.   

This, this, this...and if he turns out like Amal did, we all will be GIDDY. 

I get that people are concerned about how much he's played in HS, but I am not making any judgments on the kid until he gets on the court here.  Give Buzz and the staff time to work with him and develop him, much like they did with OTule.  I think he's going to be a solid contributor. 

[lab_warrior]

Wait, you just ignored the three pages of crap you started with this idiotic thread and posted about Mbargorba?

Got to be kidding me.

+1

Ugh...

[Benny B]

This would of never been a problem if we were able to land Blaise Mbargorba, but SMU got him instead. Scout grade of 92, top 20 for center, and a 7 footer. Man I would of loved to see him in an MU uni.

Sorry... too lazy to scale.

[Ant]

Not to continue piling on but

http://espn.go.com/college-football/story/_/id/7657131/michigan-wolverines-players-tweets-violated-ncaa-rule

Roundtree and Demens tweeted to linebacker Mike McCray of Trotwood-Madison High School in Ohio after the highly touted prospect decided to play for the Wolverines. NCAA rules prohibit messages being sent to recruits through social media from accounts affiliated with someone from the school.

Even if you think the NCAA has better things to investigate besides tweets to a player that already committed to Marquette, why risk it?

[GGGG]

This would of never been a problem if we were able to land Blaise Mbargorba, but SMU got him instead. Scout grade of 92, top 20 for center, and a 7 footer. Man I would of loved to see him in an MU uni.

Mbargorba is Scout #28 Center...three stars.  Durley is not rated, but that just means he is >30...but also three stars.  Other non-rated three star centers include players that have committed to Texas, Indiana, Missouri (2 of them), Baylor, etc.  

It very well could be that Buzz preferred Durley, but we don't know that.  But you are saying nothing that suggests that Blaise is better than Durley.

[Les Nessman]

Mbargorba is Scout #28 Center...three stars.  Durley is not rated, but that just means he is >30...but also three stars.  Other non-rated three star centers include players that have committed to Texas, Indiana, Missouri (2 of them), Baylor, etc.  

It very well could be that Buzz preferred Durley, but we don't know that.  But you are saying nothing that suggests that Blaise is better than Durley.

Exactly. Hypotheticals don't really work well in real life discussions. For example, We would have won the National Championship in '03 if Carmello and Bosh had both decided to play at MU instead of Syracuse and Georgia Tech. Well, they didn't, so let's get back to reality.

[mues05]

Thought this article about communicating with recruits might interest some of you

http://msn.foxsports.com/collegefootball/story/Michigan-players-may-have-violated-NCAA-rule-030712

[Blackhat]

Wouldn't be surprised if Durley is Mbao 2.0

[brewcity77]

Wouldn't be surprised if Durley is Mbao 2.0

Wouldn't be surprised if Durley is Otule+

[Silkk the Shaka]

Wouldn't be surprised if Durley is Otule+

I'm thinkin' he'll be more towards the Otule spectrum in terms of defense and more towards the Gardner spectrum in terms of offense.  Not as good as either at their respective strong side of the court, but not as weak as either as their respective weak side of the court.  In other words, a very solid big man - one that would have been perfect for the three amigos as a junior/senior.  Still a crime they never got to play with a halfway decent center, but I digress...

[Blackhat]

Speaking of Mbao he's currently at Marshall and getting 6 minutes a game , .3 pts,  2 rebs.  RS Soph

[Silkk the Shaka]

Speaking of Mbao he's currently at Marshall and getting 6 minutes a game , .3 pts,  2 rebs.  RS Soph

And if Durley turns out to be anything like Mbao, he'll likely be putting up those numbers for a Marshall-esqsue program as well after a year or two.  No harm in taking a flyer here.  We're deep enough at the position for another two years.  If he pans out, well then giddyup.  I see no downside.

[Blackhat]

I don't see a problem either.   Obviously can go either way but if we're being real not playing competitively your senior year and then coming to high DI you're either gonna need A LOT  of time or fizz out.  Hopefully he gets on a better developmental track than in hs (which he should, more intensive practice).  Remember Buzz saying Mbao was the most athletic big he's had ever and he had a rough go of it.  

[THEultimateWARRIOR]

Ah yes, because HS rankings predict assured success.

Best regards,
Jae Crowder, Jimmy Butler, Darius Johnson-Odom, Lazar Hayward, Davante Gardner, Todd Mayo, Erik Williams

I was just making a point that we were in on him and what he was rated on ESPN.

[Brewtown Andy]

mmmmm, Pappy Van Winkle.

[Small Orange Soda]

I have no clue how Durley will work out at Marquette.  Either way, I think it's pretty dumb to not adapt your offense to fit two centers who are going to high major schools.  I get that it's not his game plan, but it's ridiculous to sit a high level recruit for entire HIGH SCHOOL GAMES because it doesn't adhere to the way you do things.  If he's anywhere near how good his recruitment suggests, then he should be playing a bit.

[Lighthouse 84]

Wouldn't be surprised if Durley is Mbao 2.0

Given Durley's size, he'd be more like Mbao 5.0.

[tower912]

Given Durley's size, he'd be more like Mbao 5.0.

How about Mbao 2.80?

[GGGG]

I was just making a point that we were in on him and what he was rated on ESPN.

And I was just making the point that Blaise and Durley were not rated that differently.