Marquette's best 1-2 punch

[77ncaachamps]

DJO and Jae has been awesome for us this season, but which duo was the best 1-2 punch at MU?

Choose to base it on points, overall stats, over a single season, over multiple seasons...I just want to see people's opinions and the evidence they're using.

[MuMark]

Butch Lee and Bo Ellis is the first combo that comes to mind.

[Goose]

Butch and Bo get my vote.

[4everwarriors]

Kids on this board just don't get it. The heyday of Marquette basketball is in the rearview mirror. Brute Force, Dean The Dream, Sugar, Allie, Jay, Bo, Chones, Grafton Gun, Elevator Man, Evil Dr. Blackheart, Butch, Toone, Black Jerry West, Spider, Stretch, Luke, Larry, Cloud Piercer, Rosie, UP, Doc, Dean, Michael, Mandy, Marcus, et al.
Thankfully, Buzz has got the bus back on course.

[77ncaachamps]

Kids on this board just don't get it. The heyday of Marquette basketball is in the rearview mirror. Brute Force, Dean The Dream, Sugar, Allie, Jay, Bo, Chones, Grafton Gun, Elevator Man, Evil Dr. Blackheart, Butch, Toone, Black Jerry West, Spider, Stretch, Luke, Larry, Cloud Piercer, Rosie, UP, Doc, Dean, Michael, Mandy, Marcus, et al.
Thankfully, Buzz has got the bus back on course.

Answer the question, o' Grizzly One.

Meminger and Chones are a lethal combo.

[sailwi]

I think it has to be Bo and Butch for the simple fact they did it for 3 years and most of the other ones I can think of were 2 years at most.

[4everwarriors]

Hands down the Butch and Bo show in MU lore. Trumped Bernie and Ernie and just 'bout all others.

[bamamarquettefan]

ahhh, saw this just after posting the updated Top 50 on cracked sidewalks.

if you make them play together at least 2 years it simplifies it, and you have Lee and Ellis as the best, and then I think it's between Matthews and Jerel (since Dominic's big production was before the duo blossomed) and DJO and Crowder.

However, if you just look at one year combinations, it gets confusing because of the great run in the McGuire years.  then I'd say:

1. Ellis-Lee
2. Meminger-Chones
3. Meminger-Thompson
4. Lucas-Ellis
5. Wade-Diener
6. DJO-Crowder
7. Chones-McNeil
8. McNeil-Lucas
9. McNeal-Mathews
10. Kojis-Mangham

[Dawson Rental]

Kids on this board just don't get it. The heyday of Marquette basketball is in the rearview mirror. Brute Force, Dean The Dream, Sugar, Allie, Jay, Bo, Chones, Grafton Gun, Elevator Man, Evil Dr. Blackheart, Butch, Toone, Black Jerry West, Spider, Stretch, Luke, Larry, Cloud Piercer, Rosie, UP, Doc, Dean, Michael, Mandy, Marcus, et al.
Thankfully, Buzz has got the bus back on course.

Cloud Piercer?  That Michigan State transfer never even started a game.  I will grant you that his nickname beats "Mellow" hands down.

[MU82]

OK ... I'll go back to my freshman year and say Sam Worthen and Bernard Toone!

[Dawson Rental]

OK ... I'll go back to my freshman year and say Sam Worthen and Bernard Toone!

Fortunately for Worthen he played in the days when his size 6'5" caused him to be moved to forward from point guard.  These days he'd be moved to center!

[Les Nessman]

Kids on this board just don't get it. The heyday of Marquette basketball is in the rearview mirror. Brute Force, Dean The Dream, Sugar, Allie, Jay, Bo, Chones, Grafton Gun, Elevator Man, Evil Dr. Blackheart, Butch, Toone, Black Jerry West, Spider, Stretch, Luke, Larry, Cloud Piercer, Rosie, UP, Doc, Dean, Michael, Mandy, Marcus, et al.
Thankfully, Buzz has got the bus back on course.

The heyday of everything is in the rearview mirror. Old people these days.

[JoBo2756]

Kids on this board just don't get it. The heyday of Marquette basketball is in the rearview mirror. Brute Force, Dean The Dream, Sugar, Allie, Jay, Bo, Chones, Grafton Gun, Elevator Man, Evil Dr. Blackheart, Butch, Toone, Black Jerry West, Spider, Stretch, Luke, Larry, Cloud Piercer, Rosie, UP, Doc, Dean, Michael, Mandy, Marcus, et al.
Thankfully, Buzz has got the bus back on course.

What did you geezers spend all you time on before the 'Scoop??

[seakm4]

I'm too young to remember the older ones, but I remember Diener and Novak having a pick and pop game that was unstoppable when they were hitting.

[tower912]

Actually, Diener and Novak were very stoppable, because Novak couldn't create a shot on his own and could be defended on the switch by a 6'2 guy.   Now if you want to close your eyes and say 'mmmm', picture Diener and Novak playing in Buzz's offense. 

[Dr. Blackheart]

What did you geezers spend all you time on before the 'Scoop??

4ever spent his time in other people's mouths   

[🏀]

4ever spent his time in other people's mouths   

Nice!

[Goose]

The Cloud Piercer sure had a memorable Thursday night in March, 1977 that did not unnoticed by this old geezer. Recent times I was a Diener/Wade guy.

[PuertoRicanNightmare]

How about Wade and Bob Jackson? No slight to Diener, of course, but in 2003 I'm not sure Jackson wasnt the real second banana. Debatable.

[4everwarriors]

Cloud Piercer?  That Michigan State transfer never even started a game.  I will grant you that his nickname beats "Mellow" hands down.

Had to toss in a traditional. Plus, dude has a ring.

[4everwarriors]

4ever spent his time in other people's mouths   

Still do, Pat.

[wadesworld]

How about Wade and Bob Jackson? No slight to Diener, of course, but in 2003 I'm not sure Jackson wasnt the real second banana. Debatable.

Was just typing that.  Jackson is one of the most overlooked players in Marquette history.  He averaged 15.4 ppg that year and 7.5 rpg.  I love Diener, he was an incredible player who was a true Warrior, but in the 2002-2003 season the 1-2 punch was Wade and Jackson.  With Wade averaging 21.5 ppg, 6.3 rpg, 4.4 apg, 1.3 bpg, and 2.2 spg and both of those guys shooting above 50% on the year, I wasn't alive for the Al days, but my guess is that 1-2 punch rivals just about any other 1-2 punch in MU basketball.

Jackson's game vs. Kentucky was incredible.  After Marquis Estill took a shot at him (saying he didn't remember him even though he had played him twice a year while Jackson was at Mississippi State), Jackson went for 24 and 15 while holding Estill to 10 and 6.

[4everwarriors]

Fortunately for Worthen he played in the days when his size 6'5" caused him to be moved to forward from point guard.  These days he'd be moved to center!

He be tall for Crean era center.

[4everwarriors]

The Cloud Piercer sure had a memorable Thursday night in March, 1977 that did not unnoticed by this old geezer. Recent times I was a Diener/Wade guy.

Not sure we beat KSU in Oklahoma City without #40 comin' up huge.

[77ncaachamps]

I do now wonder where Wade-Jackson would rank. Has that been explored bamamarquettefan (Pudner)?

And when is the updated book coming out?