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BCHoopster

After watching the first half of the WV game, I was wondering how MU is going to score points next year?  I do see Gardner being an important piece to that puzzle
with Wilson and Blue upfront, but the X factor is Mayo or Taylor?  Are they good enough to take the place of DJO.  I do not see it in Mayo yet, but he will be much improved
next year, how much improved is the key question?  Cadougan should be scoring more as a senior.  Enjoy this year, next year will be good but not as much fun as this year to
watch.

jeffreyweee

I can see what
you are trying to say but
Buzz's teams will always
be able to put the ball
in the basket.
On the other hand, why
do you find it necessary
to try to self format your
posts
?

monkeyman34

Just a quick guess, not including incoming players:

Junior 8
D Wilson 2
Mayo 12
Blue 10
Jones 4
Anderson 4
J Wilson 12
Otule 6
Gardner 12

= 70 pts / game

RideMyBuycks

Quote from: monkeyman34 on February 27, 2012, 10:24:34 AM
Just a quick guess, not including incoming players:

Junior 8
D Wilson 2
Mayo 12
Blue 10
Jones 4
Anderson 4
J Wilson 12
Otule 6
Gardner 12

= 70 pts / game

Looks like 'cuse this year  ;)

Clam Crowder

I was thinking about this yesterday as well. I think Junior not being in was the main missing piece from the offense in that first half. The difference between him and D-Will is night and day. Starters will be Jamil, Junior, Otule, and Blue. What happens at the 3 is a question mark, maybe well go three guard with Junior, Van,and Todd. I think the offense will be fine. I see Jamil taking a huge leap, Blue taking a leap, and Junior as well. Of the 2 X factors I think it will be TJ Taylor. I think we have a guy that will be alot like DJO coming in. He looks to have a good stroke from 3, and can drive. It even looks from some of his highlights that he likes to drive 1 v. 4 like Blue and have a turnover. I think next year will be a good year for us, and I think Vander and Junior will be the main reasons for that.

CTWarrior

Quote from: BCHoopster on February 27, 2012, 10:18:24 AM
After watching the first half of the WV game, I was wondering how MU is going to score points next year? 

Don't underestimate Cadougan as a facilitator.  Having him, plus Gardner, plus improvement from the others and we should be fine.
Calvin:  I'm a genius.  But I'm a misunderstood genius. 
Hobbes:  What's misunderstood about you?
Calvin:  Nobody thinks I'm a genius.

GGGG

Quote from: jeffreyweee on February 27, 2012, 10:24:18 AM
On the other hand, why
do you find it necessary
to try to self format your
posts
?


Honestly, it has been pointed out to him repeatedly, but I have no idea why he has to stick returns into his posts instead of just letting them wrap.  I mean, word processors have been around for 30 years now???

brewcity77

Not worried at all. Vander is starting to show he can put the ball in the hoop, even if he isn't a refined jump-shooter. Mayo and Gardner can both score the basket. Jamil Wilson can score from just about anywhere on the floor, even if he isn't as consistent yet as a DJO or Jae. Junior can get to the rack and will likely be even better at it next year.

Then there are two other guys...I expect TJ Taylor could have a DJO-type impact on the program from day one. He looks like a DJO clone, can score inside and out, and has had a year of competitive hoops to prime himself for Marquette. And I expect a big jump from Juan Anderson. Maybe he won't put up mass points, but I think he'll be able to do a bit of everything and probably get 5-8 ppg along the way.

We will score. We always score.

wadesworld

#8
Quote from: CTWarrior on February 27, 2012, 10:28:20 AM
Don't underestimate Cadougan as a facilitator.  Having him, plus Gardner, plus improvement from the others and we should be fine.

Agreed.  In one sense, I definitely understand the concern as DJO and Jae are studs, and we do look ugly without them in there, but the roles of players will change and somehow we will find a way to score a lot of points like we always do.  I think Junior becomes a scorer next year as well.

Quote from: monkeyman34 on February 27, 2012, 10:24:34 AM
Just a quick guess, not including incoming players:

Junior 12
D Wilson 2
Mayo 9
Blue 12
Jones 2
Anderson 2
J Wilson 15
Otule 5
Gardner 13


Edited with a guess at scores.  I also think both Taylors could come in and give us between 5-6 points each.

sarcastro

Just checked out the scholarship table....I'm seriously concerned about the 2014-15 season.

I'm pretty sure somebody will step up into Jae and DJO's roles next year, but instead of worrying about next season I'm going to enjoy this one.

GGGG

Quote from: jhags15 on February 27, 2012, 10:27:57 AM
I was thinking about this yesterday as well. I think Junior not being in was the main missing piece from the offense in that first half. The difference between him and D-Will is night and day. Starters will be Jamil, Junior, Otule, and Blue. What happens at the 3 is a question mark, maybe well go three guard with Junior, Van,and Todd.


I would be shocked if we don't have a three guard line up with Vander, Otule, Jamil, Junior and either Mayo or TJ Taylor.  they are going to need a deep threat in this lineup, and I feel much better about Taylor and Mayo than I do about Jones or Juan filling that role.

Clam Crowder

Nobody is mentioning Jake! I think Jake will legitimately get some minutes.

Aughnanure

Quote from: wadesworld on February 27, 2012, 10:35:26 AM
Agreed.  In one sense, I definitely understand the concern as DJO and Jae are studs, and we do look ugly without them in there, but the roles of players will change and somehow we will find a way to score a lot of points like we always do.  I think Junior becomes a scorer next year as well.

Edited with a guess at scores.  I also think both Smith and Taylor could come in and give us between 5-6 points each.

Smith?
“All men dream; but not equally. Those who dream by night in the dusty recesses of their minds wake in the day to find that it was vanity; but the dreamers of the day are dangerous men, for they may act out their dreams with open eyes, to make it possible.” - T.E. Lawrence

Clam Crowder


Aughnanure

Quote from: jhags15 on February 27, 2012, 10:37:42 AM
Nobody is mentioning Jake! I think Jake will legitimately get some minutes.

I agree, but only if he is the shooter we are hearing he is. I also think one of the "switchables" not named Wilson takes a big step - i.e., Juan Anderson, Jamail Jones or Jamal Ferguson. My bet is on Anderson after gaining more strength so he's not pushed around on the ball as much.
“All men dream; but not equally. Those who dream by night in the dusty recesses of their minds wake in the day to find that it was vanity; but the dreamers of the day are dangerous men, for they may act out their dreams with open eyes, to make it possible.” - T.E. Lawrence

jesmu84

Quote from: Aughnanure on February 27, 2012, 10:40:15 AM
My bet is on Anderson after gaining more strength so he's not pushed around on the ball as much.
I think (hope?) Anderson's ceiling is becoming the next Jimmy Butler. I'd be fine with that after 4 years.

Dr. Blackheart

Quote from: jhags15 on February 27, 2012, 10:39:44 AM
Yeah, who is Smith?

That is Durley's nickname, the "Big Smith"...expecting a double, double there for sure.

wadesworld

Quote from: jhags15 on February 27, 2012, 10:39:44 AM
Yeah, who is Smith?

Woops.  Don't know what I was typing.  Meant the 2 Taylors (TJ and Steve).

brewcity77

Quote from: jhags15 on February 27, 2012, 10:37:42 AMNobody is mentioning Jake! I think Jake will legitimately get some minutes.

I could see him playing a similar, if somewhat lessened, role to what Novak did as a freshman. Spot-up shooter getting 8-10 mpg and averaging 5-8 ppg in the process. With all our quickness and the mismatches we create, there would be plenty of opportunity for a guy who can sit just outside the arc and absolutely drill it.

GGGG

Quote from: brewcity77 on February 27, 2012, 10:46:03 AM
I could see him playing a similar, if somewhat lessened, role to what Novak did as a freshman. Spot-up shooter getting 8-10 mpg and averaging 5-8 ppg in the process. With all our quickness and the mismatches we create, there would be plenty of opportunity for a guy who can sit just outside the arc and absolutely drill it.


Not to beat a dead horse, but I would be amazed if he has anything but a bit role next year.

brewcity77

Quote from: The Sultan of South Wayne on February 27, 2012, 10:48:40 AMNot to beat a dead horse, but I would be amazed if he has anything but a bit role next year.

I know there's a lot of (well...a bit of) debate as to what Thomas' role might be, but the kid is the best shooter Marquette has had since Novak. He doesn't have to run the fast break, he just has to bet from the defensive end to 1/3 of the way down the offensive end and put the ball in the air if he's open.

Defensive liability? Sure. All-around player? Heck no. But he is a weapon. Honestly, in our offense, with the way our guys can draw defenders, Thomas could end up shooting 60% from 3. He'd always be open.

Aughnanure

Quote from: brewcity77 on February 27, 2012, 10:52:13 AM
I know there's a lot of (well...a bit of) debate as to what Thomas' role might be, but the kid is the best shooter Marquette has had since Novak. He doesn't have to run the fast break, he just has to bet from the defensive end to 1/3 of the way down the offensive end and put the ball in the air if he's open.

Defensive liability? Sure. All-around player? Heck no. But he is a weapon. Honestly, in our offense, with the way our guys can draw defenders, Thomas could end up shooting 60% from 3. He'd always be open.

No one's shooting 60%. But I agree, I don't think he'll be the defensive liability people are assuming he will be (Wisky plays good D, dont they?) and he looks more athletic than we are giving him credit for.
“All men dream; but not equally. Those who dream by night in the dusty recesses of their minds wake in the day to find that it was vanity; but the dreamers of the day are dangerous men, for they may act out their dreams with open eyes, to make it possible.” - T.E. Lawrence

MerrittsMustache

Quote from: The Sultan of South Wayne on February 27, 2012, 10:48:40 AM

Not to beat a dead horse, but I would be amazed if he has anything but a bit role next year.

I'd love to see him come out and be a mini-Novak, but my hunch is similar to Sultan's. Although, I'd also like to predict that he'll hit a few threes in garbage time of a non-conf game and posters will go nuts calling for him to see the floor for the next couple weeks.

As far as scoring goes, Jamil seems to be next in line to take over the Zar/Butler/Jae role. He can score the basketball and will likely get 6-8 points/game on put-backs or dishes alone. I expect him to double his current scoring average next season.


tower912

I look at next year's team and the last think I worry about is scoring.    Let's look at the guys who are coming back next year who have had big games.    DG, JWil, Mayo, Blue, Cadougan.    All are a year older and theoretically a year better.    The scoring will be fine.   
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muwarrior69

Hope Steve Taylor can give us some minutes as well.

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