Author Topic: Ryan Braun Wins Appeal (Read 35000 times)

TallTitan34 · « **on:** February 23, 2012, 04:17:08 PM »

Won't be suspended.

Complete joke. I wouldn't mind if it was reduced but dropped?

So it is acceptable to have 4 times the normal amount of testosterone because you have an STD.

dwaderoy2004 · « **Reply #1 on:** February 23, 2012, 04:20:07 PM »

apparently they won on a technicality. They didn't dispute the result of the test, just that the process is flawed in some way. BS.

TallTitan34 · « **Reply #2 on:** February 23, 2012, 04:21:01 PM »

A dangerous precedent has been set.

Mu2323 · « **Reply #3 on:** February 23, 2012, 04:26:55 PM »

Will not be suspended 50-games

SaveOD238 · « **Reply #4 on:** February 23, 2012, 04:33:25 PM »

+1000000

TallTitan34 · « **Reply #5 on:** February 23, 2012, 04:34:43 PM »

MLB released a statement where they "strongly disagree" with the third party's decision to overturn it.

Warriors10 · « **Reply #6 on:** February 23, 2012, 04:45:26 PM »

Quote from: TallTitan34 on February 23, 2012, 04:21:01 PM

A dangerous precedent has been set.

No such thing as precedent in arbitration cases.

jaybilaswho? · « **Reply #7 on:** February 23, 2012, 04:46:08 PM »

Manny Ramirez is now rushing to MLB offices to appeal his suspension.

TallTitan34 · « **Reply #8 on:** February 23, 2012, 04:53:26 PM »

Don't put that in teal. Why wouldn't he appeal? I'm sure he could find a technicality as well.

Abode4life · « **Reply #9 on:** February 23, 2012, 05:07:08 PM »

Have they said what the technicality is?

cheebs09 · « **Reply #10 on:** February 23, 2012, 05:11:24 PM »

Quote from: Abode4life on February 23, 2012, 05:07:08 PM

Have they said what the technicality is?

According to national writers on twitter, the defense centered around the chain of custody being broken for 2 days and left unprotected. With the rumor that there were two other Brewers who had very high levels, but were thrown out, it could be fairly reasonable to assume someone tampered with it.

Now ESPN is saying that the courier was supposed to take it to FedEx on Saturday, but was not sure it was open, so took it home and sent it out Monday.

monkeyman34 · « **Reply #11 on:** February 23, 2012, 05:12:56 PM »

It's BS he isn't suspended because MLB didn't know where his test sample was for 2 whole days? Give me a break. MLB and ESPN are the idiots right now, not Braun. He passed 3 other tests during the year, and failed one, which was "missing" for 2 days.

Benny B · « **Reply #12 on:** February 23, 2012, 05:20:29 PM »

Quote from: TallTitan34 on February 23, 2012, 04:17:08 PM

Won't be suspended.

Complete joke. I wouldn't mind if it was reduced but dropped?

So it is acceptable to have 4 times the normal amount of testosterone because you have an STD.

If the testosterone trigger was the result of a prescription medication he is on, Braun would probably be happy with any STD rather than what he actually may have.

There are certain illnesses you don't make fun of or take joy when your enemy is stricken with it... cancer, AIDS, Alzheimers, etc. I would highly suggest anyone wanting to toss the "herpes" thing around wait to see what it is they actually may be reveling about --- unless you don't believe in karma.

SacWarrior · « **Reply #13 on:** February 23, 2012, 05:28:39 PM »

Brewers fans will see it as vindication.

Cubs fans will see it as a miscarriage of justice.

Well I'm a happy man today at least. Come see me at the bar tonight Cubs fans, we can both get drunk for opposite reasons

mu03eng · « **Reply #14 on:** February 23, 2012, 05:31:59 PM »

Quote from: cheebs09 on February 23, 2012, 05:11:24 PM

According to national writers on twitter, the defense centered around the chain of custody being broken for 2 days and left unprotected. With the rumor that there were two other Brewers who had very high levels, but were thrown out, it could be fairly reasonable to assume someone tampered with it.

Now ESPN is saying that the courier was supposed to take it to FedEx on Saturday, but was not sure it was open, so took it home and sent it out Monday.

If I'm Braun I sue ESPN. If they don't leak the report on the test and everything happens normally, no one knows about this. The difficult part would be proving how much earning power he has lost as a result for the damages part. How this isn't a HIPPA violation to report it is a mystery to me, but then again I've never stayed in a Holiday Inn Express

TallTitan34 · « **Reply #15 on:** February 23, 2012, 05:35:20 PM »

Quote from: mu03eng on February 23, 2012, 05:31:59 PM

If I'm Braun I sue ESPN. If they don't leak the report on the test and everything happens normally, no one knows about this. The difficult part would be proving how much earning power he has lost as a result for the damages part. How this isn't a HIPPA violation to report it is a mystery to me, but then again I've never stayed in a Holiday Inn Express

They didn't report anything that wasnt true. What would you sue for?

BlindboyPatSmith · « **Reply #16 on:** February 23, 2012, 05:37:30 PM »

Quote from: mu03eng on February 23, 2012, 05:31:59 PM

If I'm Braun I sue ESPN. If they don't leak the report on the test and everything happens normally, no one knows about this. The difficult part would be proving how much earning power he has lost as a result for the damages part. How this isn't a HIPPA violation to report it is a mystery to me, but then again I've never stayed in a Holiday Inn Express

+1

Why sue? because his rights were violated per the collective bargaining agreement with MLB and the union. In addition this has got to be a HIPPA violation

mu03eng · « **Reply #17 on:** February 23, 2012, 05:37:47 PM »

Quote from: TallTitan34 on February 23, 2012, 05:35:20 PM

They didn't report anything that wasnt true. What would you sue for?

The HIPPA violation because those are protected medical tests....again thats what as a loyal Law and Order viewer knowledge says. I could be wildly wrong. Additionally, they reported no one had appealed successfully a test, which is also not true.

TallTitan34 · « **Reply #18 on:** February 23, 2012, 05:38:41 PM »

Jeff Passan twitter:

Quote

Sources: Braun sample sat over the weekend in FedEx shop. Wasn't delivered until Monday. Chain-of-custody argument from lawyers won case.

dwaderoy2004 · « **Reply #19 on:** February 23, 2012, 05:39:36 PM »

Actually that is true. No mlber has successfully appealed before braun. See the JS article.

TallTitan34 · « **Reply #20 on:** February 23, 2012, 05:41:20 PM »

Quote from: SacWarrior on February 23, 2012, 05:28:39 PM

Brewers fans will see it as vindication.

Cubs fans will see it as a miscarriage of justice.

Well I'm a happy man today at least. Come see me at the bar tonight Cubs fans, we can both get drunk for opposite reasons

Vindication for what? He didn't win the case because he is clean. He won because the sample sat at FedEx and wasn't shipped until Monday.

TallTitan34 · « **Reply #21 on:** February 23, 2012, 05:49:24 PM »

I don't think HIPAA covers steroid testing by an employee's employeer. If it did MLB wouldn't be able to announce that players were suspended for failing.

in_lazar_we_trust · « **Reply #22 on:** February 23, 2012, 05:50:35 PM »

The result of the test was that he had twice as much testosterone in his sample than any player in MLB history. You can't change the result in arbitration, it is the result. You can only challenge how the test was done and argue that something must have gone wrong, and point out any flaws in the process, the test, the chain of custody (possibility for mix-up, tampering, or contamination), etc.

mu03eng · « **Reply #23 on:** February 23, 2012, 06:40:29 PM »

Quote from: TallTitan34 on February 23, 2012, 05:49:24 PM

I don't think HIPAA covers steroid testing by an employee's employeer. If it did MLB wouldn't be able to announce that players were suspended for failing.

Players sign a waiver of HIPAA in those instances, there is an agreement in place is my understanding....different for a new organization to report on it.

4everwarriors · « **Reply #24 on:** February 23, 2012, 06:43:21 PM »

Just like O.J.'s trial. When ya got the facts on your side, argue da facts. When ya got the law on your side, argue the law. When you got neither, muddy the waters. That, my friends, is Law 101.

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Author Topic: Ryan Braun Wins Appeal (Read 35000 times)