OT: if you needed any more reasons to hate the Yankees...

[ecompt]

their payroll just vaulted above the $215 million mark with the signing of mercenary Roger Clemens. Hope they enjoy beating up on the $21 milliion Devil Rays. 

[ozmetal71]

Yawn.......outside of the ESPN studios and NYC, no one cares.

I can't stand all the poser Yankee fans around the country, though.  They make Cubs fans look intelligent.

[Mayor McCheese]

Yawn.......outside of the ESPN studios and NYC, no one cares.

I can't stand all the poser Yankee fans around the country, though.  They make Cubs fans look intelligent.

lets not go that far... Cubs fans believe that a Billy Goat is not letting their team win the world series

[NYWarrior]

Yawn.......outside of the ESPN studios and NYC, no one cares.

With the Brewers standing alone atop the NL Central, I'd imagine a few folks in Brew City care that one of their divisional rivals was dealt a near-fatal blow today.  (One day after the Cards may have had the same because of the Carpenter surgery -- a good weekend for Ned Yost's guys).

[77ncaachamps]

Why doesn't the Brew Crew's skipper legally change his name to Ned Yeast?

BTW, Clemens isn't going to change that injury-plagued lineup much...

[BigSky]

their payroll just vaulted above the $215 million mark with the signing of mercenary Roger Clemens. Hope they enjoy beating up on the $21 milliion Devil Rays. 

Why do you hate the Yankees?  Or do you just dislike a personal fan experience with them or that they spend a lot of money? 

[BigSky]

Yawn.......outside of the ESPN studios and NYC, no one cares.

With the Brewers standing alone atop the NL Central, I'd imagine a few folks in Brew City care that one of their divisional rivals was dealt a near-fatal blow today.  (One day after the Cards may have had the same because of the Carpenter surgery -- a good weekend for Ned Yost's guys).

A good weekend is when one of the game's better player's get's injured?    

[ecompt]

I hate the Yankees because they deprive the small-market teams of any competitive chance. They buy and buy and buy and don't care who they roll over in doing it. They only get away with it because the players' union will not allow the salary cap that has saved the other sports. Brewer fans don't hate the Yankees just yet because the Yanks haven't invaded their roster yet. Just wait until the Brewers win something; then Steinbrenner will swoop in and Hall, Sheets, Capuano, Cordero, Fielder will all be gone,. You'll see.

[ozmetal71]

Exactly, and amen to that.


The Yankees have always bought the best talent around because they had more money.  Even in the pre-free agency era they bought players from teams.

Also, the incredible arrogance of Steinbrenner and Yankee fans is stunning.  They make Notre Dame look like a meek and mild bunch.

Boo hoo, the Yankees haven't won the WS in six years.....White Sox and Red Sox fans waited over 80 years to win one, and Cubs fans will be waiting until the end of time.

I hate the Yankees because they represent all that is deeply wrong with the structure of Major League Baseball.  Plus, its just nice to see the arrogance of New York take a hit once in awhile.

[Pakuni]

Don't blame the Yankees. Blame the system. It's not George Steinbrenner's responsibility to keep the Milwaukee Brewers and Kansas City Royals competitive, nor should it be. His responsibility is to make his team competitive and profitable, not protect the weaklings of the industry at the expense of his own franchise. Sheesh, guys, baseball is a business.

I'm all for a salary cap, but until then I won't fault Steinbrenner (or the Red Sox or the Cubs or the Angels or any other big spending team) for doing what's in the best interests of his team and his fans under the rules as they exist. It's ridiculous to suggest that Steinbrenner is a bad guy because he puts his team, his business associates and his millions of fans ahead of the 9,000 people who care about the Kansas City Royals. It would be ridiculous for him to do otherwise.

After all, this isn't Russia Danny.

[HansMoleman]

Yawn.......outside of the ESPN studios and NYC, no one cares.

I can't stand all the poser Yankee fans around the country, though.  They make Cubs fans look intelligent.

lets not go that far... Cubs fans believe that a Billy Goat is not letting their team win the world series

Actually, true Cub fans don't believe that.  We don't blame Steve Bartman either.

Went to the Brewers Pirates game on Thursday with a Cub hat on.  Once it became apparent the Brew crew was going to lose, the entire section I was in began chanting "Cubbies suck".  Now that's intelligent!

[MUAlum99]

Yawn.......outside of the ESPN studios and NYC, no one cares.

I can't stand all the poser Yankee fans around the country, though.  They make Cubs fans look intelligent.

lets not go that far... Cubs fans believe that a Billy Goat is not letting their team win the world series

Actually, true Cub fans don't believe that.  We don't blame Steve Bartman either.

Went to the Brewers Pirates game on Thursday with a Cub hat on.  Once it became apparent the Brew crew was going to lose, the entire section I was in began chanting "Cubbies suck".  Now that's intelligent!

Why isn't that intelligent?  The Cubs DO suck, and so do their fans.  The fans in Milwaukee only speak the truth.

GO BREWERS.

[HansMoleman]

Yawn.......outside of the ESPN studios and NYC, no one cares.

I can't stand all the poser Yankee fans around the country, though.  They make Cubs fans look intelligent.

lets not go that far... Cubs fans believe that a Billy Goat is not letting their team win the world series

Actually, true Cub fans don't believe that.  We don't blame Steve Bartman either.

Went to the Brewers Pirates game on Thursday with a Cub hat on.  Once it became apparent the Brew crew was going to lose, the entire section I was in began chanting "Cubbies suck".  Now that's intelligent!

Why isn't that intelligent?  The Cubs DO suck, and so do their fans.  The fans in Milwaukee only speak the truth.

GO BREWERS.

Home from school today?  First place in early May is making you delirious.

[🏀]

The whole town is delirious. I got banned from the other board yesterday for telling Dodds to keep Brewers talk on the baseball board.

It's a long season folks.

[NYWarrior]

Home from school today?  First place in early May is making you delirious.

First place in May beats any alternative.......particularly when two rivals (essentially) lost their top SP for the season over the weekend.

[Mayor McCheese]

Yawn.......outside of the ESPN studios and NYC, no one cares.

I can't stand all the poser Yankee fans around the country, though.  They make Cubs fans look intelligent.

lets not go that far... Cubs fans believe that a Billy Goat is not letting their team win the world series

Actually, true Cub fans don't believe that.  We don't blame Steve Bartman either.

Went to the Brewers Pirates game on Thursday with a Cub hat on.  Once it became apparent the Brew crew was going to lose, the entire section I was in began chanting "Cubbies suck".  Now that's intelligent!

Why isn't that intelligent?  The Cubs DO suck, and so do their fans.  The fans in Milwaukee only speak the truth.

GO BREWERS.

Home from school today?  First place in early May is making you delirious.

Because if the Cubs would have the best recrod in baseball you would keep your mouth shut...    ... please, we would be hearing ALL ABOUT IT from the "intelligent" fans...

what is intelligent is wearing a Cubs hat to a Brewer-Pirate game... sorry thats just bad on your part, I would have called you explicit words... one most likely starting with an A 

and why Brewer fans hate Cub fans... when in Millwer Park the Cub/Brewer rivalry (and no Im not mad that Cub fans spend money up here, keep it coming), but they absolutely trash the stadium.. my friend runs the bat stand in Miller Park (the Sawmill Slat stand), and he says every year every game multiple Cubs fans try to steal bats that they have out on display, every year, when that doesn't happen the rest of the year.  Cub fans are classless, annoying, naive, and then try and drink with their Brewer fan friends, and struggle mightily!     ... best record in baseball, try and knock us off our soapbox!  We are ten games over .500 for the first time since 92, can't we have our moment, even if it is in May?

[PuertoRicanNightmare]

Hey Mayor -- maybe you can tell your friend that Cubs fans have been carrying the Brewers attendance numbers since they switched to the National League.

Incidentally, I worked at County Stadium during college. Back then it was White Sox fans that Brewer employees complained about. What they were really complaining about were big crowds, which they were not (and are not) used to.

[mu03eng]

I hate the Yankees for two reasons, one I'm a die-hard Red Sox fan.  Two, people who know nothing about baseball become Yankees fans with no connection to the team at all.  I've met people who lived in California, didn't know it was three strikes and four balls and still owned Yankee gear and "cheered" for them.  Ignorance bothers me.

[Mayor McCheese]

Hey Mayor -- maybe you can tell your friend that Cubs fans have been carrying the Brewers attendance numbers since they switched to the National League.

Incidentally, I worked at County Stadium during college. Back then it was White Sox fans that Brewer employees complained about. What they were really complaining about were big crowds, which they were not (and are not) used to.

apparently you don't go to many Brewer games... yes, back then the attendance was low, however the past few years the attendance has been really high, the Cubs aren't carrying anything anymore for the Brewers, always something wrong in the eyes of PRN...

[ecompt]

One slight argument, pakuni: yes, baseball is a business. And George is supposed to provide his fans a competitive team. But profitable? The Yankees had an operating loss last year of nearly $30 million. How many other teams could afford to lose that much and still come back the following year and throw away $215 million? Every other team in every other sport has an operating budget; the Yankees don't. They don't want competition. They want everyone else to suck so that they can dominate. If there had been a salary cap in baseball since the mid-1970s (when free agency started), the Yankees would have made the playoffs maybe three or four times. The people who cheer wildly for Roger Clemens are the same people who used to love the lions devouring the Christians.

[spartan3186]

What they were really complaining about were big crowds, which they were not (and are not) used to.

This is 100% true. The staff at the Brewers games are in general totally inept. I am a Cubs fan but I will root for the Brewers (when they are not playing the Cubs). It is absolutley ridiculous that ANY baseball concession stand should run out of hot dogs. That is just what happened to me last time i was at a brewers game. On top of that I waited in line for 40 minutes to get to the line and have them tell me they were out of hot dogs (and brats) and that If i wanted something I had to have a fricking polish.

In contrast I have been to two cubs games at wrigley this year and I have never waited for more than 5 minutes to get my food, they just shuttle people in and out of the line at a rapid pace, Brewers employees should be trained at wrigley. The crowds at wrigley are bigger yet the wait is shorter... go figure.

Sorry I had to rant, so slight to the brewers they are playing great ball and I hope they continue to do so to silence the critics who are saying how bad the NL Central is, they just need to learn how to serve food.

[PuertoRicanNightmare]

Incidentally, I too am a big Brewers fan. A Cubs fan first, a Brewers fan second.

[🏀]

Brewers drawing big crowds?

Last year they overall filled 68% of Miller Park.

And their only sell-outs coming from Opening Day, St.Louis, Cubs, and promotion days (Bobblehead Fridays, College Day, 1/2 Price Hot Dogs).

The Indians/Angels games during the week have outdrawn the Brewers during the week by 8k a game.

[tonyreeder]

How did a thread about the Yankees get hijacked into a scintillating story about poor Spartan having to settle for a Polish?   Just kidding man.    Regarding Clemens.  That fat piece of crap is going to get lit up in the American League.

[Pakuni]

One slight argument, pakuni: yes, baseball is a business. And George is supposed to provide his fans a competitive team. But profitable? The Yankees had an operating loss last year of nearly $30 million. How many other teams could afford to lose that much and still come back the following year and throw away $215 million? Every other team in every other sport has an operating budget; the Yankees don't. They don't want competition. They want everyone else to suck so that they can dominate. If there had been a salary cap in baseball since the mid-1970s (when free agency started), the Yankees would have made the playoffs maybe three or four times. The people who cheer wildly for Roger Clemens are the same people who used to love the lions devouring the Christians.

I think your income numbers may be a little misleading. Yes, the Yankees as a single entity loses money (a record $50 million in 2005, in fact) but they generate for its owners huge profits via the YES network, which in 2005 raked in $200 million. So things tend to balance themselves out.
Also, looking at the big picture, the Yankees are spending money to make money. Their single-year operating income may be at a loss, but their franchise value has grown nearly $400 million the past five years - and that's before they open their new stadium. It's akin to remodeling your kitchen: it may set you back for a year or two, but it'll pay off when it comes time to sell the house.