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//http://espn.go.com/mens-college-basketball/story/_/id/7581434/bpi-feb-16-college-basketball-power-index-rankings

I like how ESPN questions the accuracy of the RPI system and introduces the Basketball Power Index that has SLU at #9 and Memphis at #17 (and MU behind both at #18, the NERVE!). Perhaps, this post was driven by MU's ranking, but Memphis and SLU ahead of us is ludicrous.  


Skatastrophy

Quote from: windyplayer on February 16, 2012, 09:54:34 AM
I like how ESPN questions the accuracy of the RPI system and introduces the Basketball Power Index that has SLU at #9 and Memphis at #17 (and MU behind both at #18, the NERVE!). Perhaps, this post was driven by MU's ranking, but Memphis and SLU ahead of us is ludicrous. 



ESPN is in the enviable position of the only source of sports news on TV.  They get to make the news, and it is repeatedly revealed that that power is going to their heads.  I hope that a competitor pops up soon.

dwaderoy2004

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They are basically trying to steal Pomeroy's thunder.  

Added: http://kenpom.com/  Compare the two...they are eerily similar.

mu03eng

They got all giddy over how well the Total QBR worked out, what with Tebow ranked ahead of Aaron Rodgers at least one week this season.

ESPN has become the evil monster roving the plains.  I use to watch SC all the time, I can't remember the last time I turned on ESPN that didn't involve watching a game.
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RJax55

Quote from: Skatastrophy on February 16, 2012, 09:56:18 AM
ESPN is in the enviable position of the only source of sports news on TV.  They get to make the news, and it is repeatedly revealed that that power is going to their heads.  I hope that a competitor pops up soon.

ESPN sucks. They have ruined two of the best sport stories lately (Tebow & Lin) with their over-the-top coverage. Once they decide to go all in on a subject, you see the full power of their empire.

Windyplayer

Quote from: RJax55 on February 16, 2012, 10:15:34 AM
ESPN sucks. They have ruined two of the best sport stories lately (Tebow & Lin) with their over-the-top coverage. Once they decide to go all in on a subject, you see the full power of their empire.

I still watch ESPN fairly often. At the end of the day, they have the best coverage of all sports by far.

GGGG

Quote from: windyplayer on February 16, 2012, 11:34:47 AM
I still watch ESPN fairly often. At the end of the day, they have the best coverage of all sports by far.

For highlights of previous sporting events....yes.

For in-depth analysis....they are long on wind and short on substance.

For breaking news....they are pathetic.

For hype....they are fantastic.

Windyplayer

Quote from: The Sultan of South Wayne on February 16, 2012, 11:38:56 AM
For highlights of previous sporting events....yes.

For in-depth analysis....they are long on wind and short on substance.

For breaking news....they are pathetic.

For hype....they are fantastic.
I watch for the highlights or if I'm looking for mindless TV.

Canned Goods n Ammo

Sportscenter used to be "sports news" and highlights (with some entertaining commentary.

Now, it's more like Entertainment Tonight. It has some highlights, but it spends a lot of time with interviews and special pieces (like Tebow, or Lin, or Lebron etc.).

ESPN News are more like the original Sportscenter.

Also, with internet video getting so much better, SC has to come up with compelling reasons for people to watch. If it's just for highlights, people can get that online whenever they want.

Skatastrophy

I'll just leave this here...


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RJax55

That picture sums up almost every issue I have with the World Wide Leader.

77ncaachamps

Quote from: The Sultan of South Wayne on February 16, 2012, 11:38:56 AM
For highlights of previous sporting events....yes.ESPN

For in-depth analysis....they are long on wind and short on substance.Fan sites or blogs

For breaking news....they are pathetic.Twitter

For hype....they are fantastic.Talk Radio or ESPN
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wadesworld

This just in courtesy of ESPN, LeBron tweeted he wouldn't rule out returning to the Cavaliers in his career! He only has 4 1/2 years left on his contract, let's start keeping track of where he'll sign next right now!

Buzz Williams' Spillproof Chiclets Cup

ESPN's two biggest human interest hype stories in the past 6 months have been...

A quarterback who thanks God after a good game
and
An unregarded basketball player who catches fire with a good couple of games.

I'm gonna pull an A Time to Kill and ask you to "Now imagine (they're Black)."

It's very hard to argue that ESPN treats either as a sensational story if the athlete is African-American, but of course, when someone like Floyd Mayweather points this out, he is the one who is "controversial."

http://www.cnn.com/2012/02/14/sport/sport-nba-lin-knicks/?hpt=us_c2
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Letting Craig Kilborn go was simultaneously the smartest and dumbest thing ESPN ever did.  Discuss.
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Hoopaloop

This table does a nice job of showing the differences between BPI, RPI, Ken Pom and others

http://espn.go.com/mens-college-basketball/story/_/id/7579732/ncaa-providing-glimpse-selection-process
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Quote from: Benny B on February 16, 2012, 02:09:23 PM
Letting Craig Kilborn go was simultaneously the smartest and dumbest thing ESPN ever did.  Discuss.

Kilby was too big for ESPN. Both good and bad.

QuetteHoops

Quote from: Buzz Williams' Spillproof Chiclets Cup on February 16, 2012, 02:04:58 PM
ESPN's two biggest human interest hype stories in the past 6 months have been...

A quarterback who thanks God after a good game
and
An unregarded basketball player who catches fire with a good couple of games.

I'm gonna pull an A Time to Kill and ask you to "Now imagine (they're Black)."

It's very hard to argue that ESPN treats either as a sensational story if the athlete is African-American, but of course, when someone like Floyd Mayweather points this out, he is the one who is "controversial."

http://www.cnn.com/2012/02/14/sport/sport-nba-lin-knicks/?hpt=us_c2

to be fair no African-American ever did what Jeremy Lin did in his 1st 5 starts, or any NBA player for that matter. So it isn't like black people do it all the time like Mayweather stated, that being said I never watch ESPN unless Marquette is playing...it's the worst

Henry Sugar

Quote from: windyplayer on February 16, 2012, 09:54:34 AM
//http://espn.go.com/mens-college-basketball/story/_/id/7581434/bpi-feb-16-college-basketball-power-index-rankings

I like how ESPN questions the accuracy of the RPI system and introduces the Basketball Power Index that has SLU at #9 and Memphis at #17 (and MU behind both at #18, the NERVE!). Perhaps, this post was driven by MU's ranking, but Memphis and SLU ahead of us is ludicrous.  

ESPN's BPI ranking was developed by Dean Oliver, author of "Basketball on Paper", inventor of Offensive Ratings/Defensive Ratings, and the Four Factors.  Everything on Pomeroy's site was done by Dean Oliver first.  I wouldn't just casually dismiss it.

We can now return back to ESPN bashing and what Skip Bayless thinks about Jeremy Lin's haircut.
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granted I'm nothing but a blind, unabashed Detroit fan, but I think that Ndomukong Suh would have a legitimate defamation case against ESPN and the NFL following his 'stomp' (on an arm, not a helmet) that didn't even make a man flinch, you have Robison on the Vikings repeatedly kicking a guy in the balls, Erik Walden beating the crap out of his wife, but those things aren't bad I guess, right?

hell, the NFL ran an article on its homepage the day of the Lions v Broncos, and termed it Good vs. Evil... because that's what a nonpartisan professional sports league should be doing - http://www.mlive.com/lions/index.ssf/2011/10/nflcom_declares_denver_broncos.html

the evidence Suh has to claim is summed up in this ESPN article from Feb 8th... http://espn.go.com/espn/story/_/id/7553866/ndamukong-suh-detroit-lions-fourth-forbes-most-disliked-list

The headline was about SUH BEING 4th ON THE LIST... I guess who cares who is 1, 2, and 3, as long as we can continue to hurt a young man's open market value!  

the key quote from the article: "Suh, who four months ago led a Forbes poll of the most-liked players in the NFL with an appeal score of 71 percent, placed fourth on an overall list of most-disliked athletes with a score of 51 percent disliked, according to the magazine."


I'm pretty sure the only ones who have the power to deface a man's career on that scale are ESPN and circle-jerk buddy Goodell and the NFL...  Goodell doesn't like that a player is standing in the way of this becoming a touch football league, so he goes to ESPN to take Suh down a few notches
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wardle2wade

Quote from: kinsella4three??? on February 16, 2012, 04:03:02 PM
I'm pretty sure the only ones who have the power to deface a man's career on that scale are ESPN and circle-jerk buddy Goodell and the NFL...  Goodell doesn't like that a player is standing in the way of this becoming a touch football league, so he goes to ESPN to take Suh down a few notches

Hate to be 'that guy,' but I'm fairly certain that Suh himself has the most power to drop his popularity ranking.  The obvious lying and backtracking he did in the interviews afterwards didn't help his public popularity... especially after everyone watched his blow-ups with their own eyes on Thanksgiving.

GGGG

Quote from: kinsella4three??? on February 16, 2012, 04:03:02 PM
granted I'm nothing but a blind, unabashed Detroit fan, but I think that Ndomukong Suh would have a legitimate defamation case against ESPN and the NFL following his 'stomp' (on an arm, not a helmet) that didn't even make a man flinch, you have Robison on the Vikings repeatedly kicking a guy in the balls, Erik Walden beating the crap out of his wife, but those things aren't bad I guess, right?

hell, the NFL ran an article on its homepage the day of the Lions v Broncos, and termed it Good vs. Evil... because that's what a nonpartisan professional sports league should be doing - http://www.mlive.com/lions/index.ssf/2011/10/nflcom_declares_denver_broncos.html

the evidence Suh has to claim is summed up in this ESPN article from Feb 8th... http://espn.go.com/espn/story/_/id/7553866/ndamukong-suh-detroit-lions-fourth-forbes-most-disliked-list

The headline was about SUH BEING 4th ON THE LIST... I guess who cares who is 1, 2, and 3, as long as we can continue to hurt a young man's open market value! 

the key quote from the article: "Suh, who four months ago led a Forbes poll of the most-liked players in the NFL with an appeal score of 71 percent, placed fourth on an overall list of most-disliked athletes with a score of 51 percent disliked, according to the magazine."


I'm pretty sure the only ones who have the power to deface a man's career on that scale are ESPN and circle-jerk buddy Goodell and the NFL...  Goodell doesn't like that a player is standing in the way of this becoming a touch football league, so he goes to ESPN to take Suh down a few notches


Is there anything that ESPN reported not true?  Bias does not equal libel.  Libel means that it was untrue, harmful and intentionally so.  While it could be argued that it was intentionally harmful, the fact that they are reporting the truth (however biased it might be) is the ultimate defense.

karavotsos

Quote from: Benny B on February 16, 2012, 02:09:23 PM
Letting Craig Kilborn go was simultaneously the smartest and dumbest thing ESPN ever did.  Discuss.

Yambo: Battle of Franken-Stein beats Linsanity hands down.

slingkong

As bad as ESPN is, most gyms (where I catch nearly all of my sports "news") in the Boston area show only ESPN and NESN.  I gag every time I try to watch NESN with all the ball gargling they do over the area teams.

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