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Started by real chili 83, February 04, 2012, 11:58:40 AM

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Quote from: MUFAN24 on February 04, 2012, 02:26:42 PM
Considering they have Beaten Lousiville in Lvill, Syracuse, Seton Hall, and UConn in the last 7 games...yeah, today would have been a good win(IMO). They have only lost once at home this year, and the JACC is always a bitch to play at.

Wouldn't have been a RPI good win.

MUFAN24

Quote from: marqptm on February 04, 2012, 02:30:43 PM
Wouldn't have been a RPI good win.

Agreed 100%, but still a solid confidence-builder type win, in a tough environment!

ErickJD08

Quote from: MUFAN24 on February 04, 2012, 02:36:27 PM
Agreed 100%, but still a solid confidence-builder type win, in a tough environment!

Who cares. We beat USF and and Nova and UL. This would have been a great win because it would really put some pressure on Cuse with our schedule the next couple of weeks. Other than that, I can live with most road losses in the big east.
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15 to 24

For the people who said I was tossing people under the bus and so on, I love Marquette as much as anyone and am at all the home games. I believe Mayo as a bright future, but he has to step it up now. With Junior's skill set, he has to handle the ball much better than he has. If his turnovers came on trying to get the ball into the post, fine, but a great majority of them are away from the basket and careless. A point guard can't do that. And I truly believe Marquette's up and down nature this year parallels DJO's up and down nature in games. I have never seen a player so hot and cold in the same game consistently. I have no problem with their efforts as they play exceedingly hard. The defense could have been better, but check our shooting percentages in games we have lost and how many times this year we have gone multiple minutes without a field goal. We missed many hardly contested point blank shots today. How do you overcome that?

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Quote from: 15 to 24 on February 04, 2012, 03:13:59 PM
For the people who said I was tossing people under the bus and so on, I love Marquette as much as anyone and am at all the home games. I believe Mayo as a bright future, but he has to step it up now. With Junior's skill set, he has to handle the ball much better than he has. If his turnovers came on trying to get the ball into the post, fine, but a great majority of them are away from the basket and careless. A point guard can't do that. And I truly believe Marquette's up and down nature this year parallels DJO's up and down nature in games. I have never seen a player so hot and cold in the same game consistently. I have no problem with their efforts as they play exceedingly hard. The defense could have been better, but check our shooting percentages in games we have lost and how many times this year we have gone multiple minutes without a field goal. We missed many hardly contested point blank shots today. How do you overcome that?


Their defense "could have been better?"  It was atrocious.  And Junior only had two turnovers today.  Jae and DJO struggled.  ND made it a point to keep either from going off.

ErickJD08

Quote from: 15 to 24 on February 04, 2012, 03:13:59 PM
For the people who said I was tossing people under the bus and so on, I love Marquette as much as anyone and am at all the home games. I believe Mayo as a bright future, but he has to step it up now. With Junior's skill set, he has to handle the ball much better than he has. If his turnovers came on trying to get the ball into the post, fine, but a great majority of them are away from the basket and careless. A point guard can't do that. And I truly believe Marquette's up and down nature this year parallels DJO's up and down nature in games. I have never seen a player so hot and cold in the same game consistently. I have no problem with their efforts as they play exceedingly hard. The defense could have been better, but check our shooting percentages in games we have lost and how many times this year we have gone multiple minutes without a field goal. We missed many hardly contested point blank shots today. How do you overcome that?

Your kinda pointing out what happens with most teams. If your best players don't play well, you will most likely loose. I think this game had more to do with ND shooting lights out, which they have in other games this season.

As for Mayo, you are saying a freshmen needs to step up now. Kinda asking for a little too much my friend.  That is where most of my frustration is coming from with Blue. If there is one player that needed to step up their game, it is Blue. And although the prior game, I think Blue got a bunch of easy looks which resulted in inflated stats, today looked like he is finally starting to turn that corner.

Blue still commits way too early often. It seems like he decides to pass or shoot right when he starts to drive. There was one instance where I saw him change his mind and almost finish a challenging layup. It was the fast break. The defender committed to the pass last second and it looked like Blue wanted to pass the whole way but then went for the lay up and it was oh so close. A hair high on the glass. If Blue can pick up that part of his game by March, we are going to be a really tough team, assuming we are healthy.
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Quote from: mu_hilltopper on February 04, 2012, 02:07:27 PM
Mmmm .. remove the OOC games, and Mayo has had a forgettable BE season.

The G'Town game was pretty solid for him, but that was a month ago

15 to 24

Okay the defense was atrocious. But it is very, very difficult to miss that many in close shots when you combine it with an atrocious 3 pt. % and still prevail. We are like that in free throws too, someone misses a couple and everyone seems to follow. Someone misses an in close shot and that starts a trend. I guess step it up may be too strong of a phrase in regards to Mayo, but if he doesn't start to hit some outside shots we are going to struggle as there isn't really anyone else to take the pressure off of DJO and Crowder to do so. Finally, I really like Junior and how he competes,  but if you think a game like today's from him is going to cut it in the big games down the road, well, we'll see.

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Quote from: 15 to 24 on February 04, 2012, 07:21:12 PM
Okay the defense was atrocious. But it is very, very difficult to miss that many in close shots when you combine it with an atrocious 3 pt. % and still prevail. We are like that in free throws too, someone misses a couple and everyone seems to follow. Someone misses an in close shot and that starts a trend. I guess step it up may be too strong of a phrase in regards to Mayo, but if he doesn't start to hit some outside shots we are going to struggle as there isn't really anyone else to take the pressure off of DJO and Crowder to do so. Finally, I really like Junior and how he competes,  but if you think a game like today's from him is going to cut it in the big games down the road, well, we'll see.
I have no problem with how Junior played today.

                           MIN FGM-A 3PM-A FTM-A OREB REB AST STL BLK TO PF PTS
Junior Cadougan, G 32    4-8      1-1    2-2       0      2    5     1    0    2   0  11

Our problem today was our two senior leaders...neither had a very good game...and our defense.  Oh, and ND shot lights out from 3 in teh 2nd half.   

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Junior played a nice game. No hate deserved there.

brewcity77

Quote from: marquette09 on February 04, 2012, 06:39:18 PMThe G'Town game was pretty solid for him, but that was a month ago

Eesht...the first 30 minutes of the game, maybe. Don't forget Mayo had more than twice as many turnovers (6) as any other Marquette player in that one. As much as he helped us build the lead, he was just as responsible as anyone for letting it get away as well.
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