Time outs when on a run

[radome]

Can anyone explain what seems to me to be timeouts when we score while on a run? It feels like we have the momentum and the crowd gets into it. Is it a teaching moment or am I the only one that senses momentum coming our way? I think it is a time for the opponent to call time.

[UticaBusBarn]

This fan has never understood Coach Williams philosophy regarding time outs. If anything, he seems reluctant to use them when he it seems he should. Then he calls a time out when no other coach would do so. On the other hand, Coach Williams is doing rather well, so what can a fan say?

[RJax55]

Can anyone explain what seems to me to be timeouts when we score while on a run? It feels like we have the momentum and the crowd gets into it. Is it a teaching moment or am I the only one that senses momentum coming our way? I think it is a time for the opponent to call time.

He does it to set-up the defense. The theory is, we're on a run, let's make sure the defense is set, so the opponent can't run out and get an easy lay-up to break it. If you notice, he usually calls the timeouts after 3s.

Personally, I'm not a fan, but I don't have any evidence to point that's a bad idea. In theory, the run your on is already giving you momentum (no matter the timeout), and another stop defensively will continue it... And, getting a stop is easier when your defense is set. So, it does sound plausible.

[bilsu]

Another thing (and I do not know if this actually enters into Buzz's thinking), but I have watched a number of teams this year where a player hits a three and then comes down and shoots again (generally a poor shot), because since he made the last one he thinks he is hot. Against Louisville late in the second half there were a couple of quick shots taken and missed that could of hurt us. I think players can and do get to exuberant. Even if a run ends after a Buzz timeout, there is no proof it would not of ended anyways. MU offense ebbs and flows to its own beat.

[Eye]

Not a huge fan of the MU time outs when on runs, though I can see the theory behind them. Much more concerned about consistently IMHO taking time outs too late and waiting for TV time outs when other teams are on runs. Thought that happened yesterday. Thought a TO should have been taken at 10-2 and not taking one 'til 13-2 cost MU 3 points.

[MUMac]

Not a huge fan of the MU time outs when on runs, though I can see the theory behind them. Much more concerned about consistently IMHO taking time outs too late and waiting for TV time outs when other teams are on runs. Thought that happened yesterday. Thought a TO should have been taken at 10-2 and not taking one 'til 13-2 cost MU 3 points.

How do you figure it cost MU 3 points?  Didn't UL score 5 more points after that TO before MU scored?

I kind of chuckle on the TO complaints.  So many on the boards know better than the coaches.  After the fact, it is always easier to call for a TO earlier or not at all.  There is no evidence available to disprove those theories, because it is all speculation without any available facts.

I understand waiting for a TV TO, especially early in the 1st half.  TO's are precious.  you only have 4 for the whole game and one other that has to be used in the 1st half.  Because of this, most coaches want to go into the final 20 with 4 TO's.  They want the players to work it out on the floor themselves in the 1st half.

As for a TO to kill momentum, I don't buy that fully.  A TO can be used for many reasons.  I know a coach does not do it to intentionally kill momentum, so I would guess they do not buy that fully either.  It may be to set up a defensive rotation, tweak something, get a player in, they saw something they either want to exploit or stop from being exploited ...  

Many coaches call TO's after a made shot.  Sometimes a big made shot.  Dixon did it Saturday at MU.  They were on a run, hit a 3, he called a TO.  Did not interrupt the run, though, so no one noticed.

[bilsu]

How about taking a player out when he just scored. That seems to happen all the time at MU. Not only Buzz, but Crean also routinely did this. The only logic I see in it is the coach was already going to sub, I notice it when the player goes out after scoring. Another thing that bothers me, is subing when we are at the free throw line. There are a lot of times where the player makes the first free throw and then subs come in and the shooter has to wait and then misses the second  shot.

[MUMac]

How about taking a player out when he just scored. That seems to happen all the time at MU. Not only Buzz, but Crean also routinely did this. The only logic I see in it is the coach was already going to sub, I notice it when the player goes out after scoring. Another thing that bothers me, is subing when we are at the free throw line. There are a lot of times where the player makes the first free throw and then subs come in and the shooter has to wait and then misses the second  shot.

To be fair, unless in the 1 + 1, the substitution by rule is between the 1st and 2nd FT or after the 2nd (if made).  You cannot substitute before the 1st FT.  There are times Buzz has the player wait until after the ball is given to the shooter for the 2nd FT before reporting, to avoid disruption.

To your point, though, the FT substitution really impacted Jae at Syracuse.  That was more to confusion over who was supposed to sub out.

[cheebs09]

The timeouts that frustrate me the most from Buzz are when we are struggling to get a shot or we run the clock down to set something up, and Buzz calls the timeout with about 5 or so seconds left on the shot clock or clock. At that point, I feel it is easier to get a good look by playing on than setting up a out of bounds play. Our out of bounds plays are just tossing it back to half court and those can be dicey at times. Maybe it's just my nervousness watching games, but I feel we have more turnovers or close calls off of out of bounds plays than our opponent. It seems off of out of bounds plays we always are hoisting up a deep, contested 3. I'd rather him just do what we did for Washington and just keep going with the flow of the game, rather than an out of bounds play.

[GGGG]

The day after Buzz called TO and "killing" a run, I saw Coach K do the same thing. I chuckled.

[NCMUFan]

I don't know if this is the time out you are pointing out but it was in the 2nd half.  While Marquette was scoring, Louisville was scoring easier.  There was no MU defense.  I was glad Buzz called the time out to regroup the defense.

[PaintTouches]

Jamie Dixon called a TO after a mini 4-0 run stretched the lead to 5 against Marquette Saturday, and that backfired on him when MU went on a 13-0 run after the TO.

It's not just Buzz, but I'm still not a fan of it. 

[bilsu]

Jamie Dixon called a TO after a mini 4-0 run stretched the lead to 5 against Marquette Saturday, and that backfired on him when MU went on a 13-0 run after the TO.

It's not just Buzz, but I'm still not a fan of it. 

I think that is the time out he called after Mayo missed a wide open three. Somebody on Pitt's defensed missed an assignment and I think that is what coaches react the most to.