Kendrick Nunn Inquiring About Open Schollies?

[GGGG]

6th year is not approved and will not even be looked at by the NCAA until Chris completes his 5th year.

It's actually the Big East that approves or disapproves as long as he meets specific NCAA criteria (which he does.)  IMO, it will be rubber stamped.

[🏀]

No...they shouldn't be making assumptions to recruits.  They simply answered his question.  The coaching staff can answer those for him.

Disagree. But I understand the situation. Another reason why if a recruit isn't coming, get it over with already.

[chapman]

Don't care what the math may or may not say, there is a scholarship available for Nunn and if his friend is as good as him, then there's two available. 

[Skatastrophy]

6th year is not approved and will not even be looked at by the NCAA until Chris completes his 5th year.

This is false. 

I wasn't guessing.

[GGGG]

He may have received "unofficial" word that it would be approved, but unless something changed in the last year or so, you couldn't officially apply until all eligibility had been used.  Regardless, he will be here in 2013-14.  I feel confident in saying that.

[Stretchdeltsig]

It would be great to have Nunn!!!

[94Warrior]

Can someone paste the Twitter exchange here?

[brewcity77]

He did mention in his tweets he got an unexpected message earlier from someone he hadn't talked to in a while, you could reasonably assume it was an assistant who told him we were booked up for 2013 now. Which I believe we technically are with CO 6th year now.

After reading this, I'd bet anything you're right. This whole exchange probably started with another program trying to negative recruit us.

[MisterJaylenBrownMU]

This is false. 

I wasn't guessing.

Please explain how this is even possible.  I understand that it's essentially impossible, but pretend that Otule has a Pujols-like recovery from the knee surgery and, in the spirit of Mbakwe, demands to come back to play a few games in the NCAA tournament.  He would, if I'm not mistaken, lose his eligibility for the 6th season.

This is why decisions aren't made before all the facts are settled.  Marquette might have gotten an unofficial wink and nod that Otule likely will be granted the 6th year, but I'm almost positive that a formal approval won't occur until after his 5th year.  If nothing else, Marquette and Otule have to fill out a formal application requesting a 6th year.  That application can't even be filled out until Otule officially misses the rest of the season with his injury, which is a necessary condition for him to be eligible.

If I'm missing something, please fill me in.

[GGGG]

After reading this, I'd bet anything you're right. This whole exchange probably started with another program trying to negative recruit us.

Then why was he asking about 12-13?  Unless he interpreted it as class of 12-13 and @marquettehoops misunderstood.

[Skatastrophy]

Please explain how this is even possible.  I understand that it's essentially impossible, but pretend that Otule has a Pujols-like recovery from the knee surgery and, in the spirit of Mbakwe, demands to come back to play a few games in the NCAA tournament.  He would, if I'm not mistaken, lose his eligibility for the 6th season.

This is why decisions aren't made before all the facts are settled.  Marquette might have gotten an unofficial wink and nod that Otule likely will be granted the 6th year, but I'm almost positive that a formal approval won't occur until after his 5th year.  If nothing else, Marquette and Otule have to fill out a formal application requesting a 6th year.  That application can't even be filled out until Otule officially misses the rest of the season with his injury, which is a necessary condition for him to be eligible.

If I'm missing something, please fill me in.

Nope, you're not missing something.  Buzz has always been good at doing his legwork on stuff like this and with the clearinghouse.  Like the guys said earlier it's impossible to get the official waiver mid season, but they waited to have surgery until they knew exactly what would happen when they do apply.

That being said, regarding the knee injury, you can always play on a hurt knee or not.  If Otule wanted to play this year (or if he wasn't going to be granted a 6th year) then he would play.

[chapman]

So if this is Chris' fourth (senior) year academically, next year is his fifth (senior) year eligibility-wise, and the year after that is his sixth (senior) year if he is granted after his fifth year.  He will probably be in grad school by the second semester of his fifth year or beginning of his sixth.

The ultimate question is: when do we honor him at Senior Day?????????? 

[nyg]

I'm pretty sure Benford would not have minded if Nunn called him, no matter what time it was.

Can a recruit contact a member of the MU staff or is there a certain "blackout" timeframe for contacts?

Or is it that the MU staff cannot contact the recruit unless it is in a certain timeframe.

[dw3dw3dw3]

After reading this, I'd bet anything you're right. This whole exchange probably started with another program trying to negative recruit us.

Yes! At least I have one conspiracy theorist on my side! This is the thread (re-worded)

1. Nunn - Weird, some people texting me I haven't heard from in a while.  (Recruiters)
2. Nunn 5 min later - How many commits does MU have? (I thought they wanted me, Recruiter told me MU was booked up)
3. MUHoops - 1 commit
4. Nunn - Oh, so they still have space for me, what about 2012?
5. MUhoops - 4
6. Nunn - Oh (Recruiter must think I'm 2012).

Yes, you need a jump to conclusions mat for it, but it's plausible.

[dwaderoy2004]

Can a recruit contact a member of the MU staff or is there a certain "blackout" timeframe for contacts?

Or is it that the MU staff cannot contact the recruit unless it is in a certain timeframe.

I may be wrong, but I'm pretty confident that a recruit can always call a coach to ask a question.  The rules are designed to prevent a coach from initiating contact with a recruit except during specific times.

[MUMac]

I may be wrong, but I'm pretty confident that a recruit can always call a coach to ask a question.  The rules are designed to prevent a coach from initiating contact with a recruit except during specific times.

Recruits can contact coaches at any time.  The blackout is in relation to the coaches.  As is the maximum contact per week requirement solely tied to the coaches.

[Les Nessman]

Yes! At least I have one conspiracy theorist on my side! This is the thread (re-worded)

1. Nunn - Weird, some people texting me I haven't heard from in a while.  (Recruiters)
2. Nunn 5 min later - How many commits does MU have? (I thought they wanted me, Recruiter told me MU was booked up)
3. MUHoops - 1 commit
4. Nunn - Oh, so they still have space for me, what about 2012?
5. MUhoops - 4
6. Nunn - Oh (Recruiter must think I'm 2012).

Yes, you need a jump to conclusions mat for it, but it's plausible.

All MUHoops did was directly and correctly answer how many commits are coming in 2012 (4) and 2013 (1) , which is Nunn's graduating class. Why would the recruiter think Nunn is a 2012?

[nyg]

Recruits can contact coaches at any time.  The blackout is in relation to the coaches.  As is the maximum contact per week requirement solely tied to the coaches.

Thanks.  Interesting that a kid can just pick up the phone and call.  Did not know that, thought it was just during specific times.  

[MUMac]

For those interested, as questions continue to arise, here are the NCAA Bylaws.  The Hardship section is Article 14.2.4 on Page 157 of the document (to find the page go to page 169 of 439).

http://www.ncaapublications.com/productdownloads/D112.pdf

[Bocephys]

All MUHoops did was directly and correctly answer how many commits are coming in 2012 (4) and 2013 (1) , which is Nunn's graduating class. Why would the recruiter think Nunn is a 2012?

Maybe Nunn was more worried about how many people they had coming in ahead of him for playing time purposes.  Hence why he asked about 2012. 

[MUMac]

Thanks.  Interesting that a kid can just pick up the phone and call.  Did not know that, thought it was just during specific times.  

Here is the specific Bylaw: 

13.1.3.2.2 Telephone Calls Initiated by Prospective Student-Athlete at His or Her Expense. Institutional
coaching staff members (see Bylaw 13.1.3.4.1) may receive telephone calls placed by a prospective
student-athlete at the prospective student-athlete's own expense at any time, including before July 1
following the prospective student-athlete's junior year in high school. (Adopted: 1/10/92, Revised: 1/10/95,
8/14/02, 12/12/06)

You can see the entire Bylaw on the link in the post I made above.

[MixItUp]

Disregard

[The Maestro]

Nunn also retweeted a comment from someone saying they'd love it if he came to Marquette.

[NoCheese]

Do we want him? I think we do...so let's bombard him with Tweets that we want him to come to MU.

[Tugg Speedman]

Here are the tweets in order.  All occurred about midnight (Jan 11).

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K.Nunn.... @Ken_second2Nunn 15h
How many commits does Marquette have?

RT @Ken_second2Nunn: @MarquetteHoops aw how many for 2012

MarquetteHoops @MarquetteHoops 15h
4--Steve Taylor, Aaron Durley, T.J. Taylor and Jamal Ferguson

K.Nunn.... K.Nunn.... @Ken_second2Nunn
@MarquetteHoops aw ok


Than about 1AM Nunn retweeted this ....

Eric Wiechman @EricWiechman12 14h
@Ken_second2Nunn would love for u to come to Marquette!!!! #mubb
Retweeted by K.Nunn....