Not a Buzz guy

[Lennys Tap]

That game was when I started to dislike Indiana.  #1 vs #2 in the Elite 8 game.  Damn that Quinn Buckner.  Had a hard time cheering for him with the Bucks because of his performance that day!

I was in Baton Rouge for the game. Late T on Al broke up a close game between two heavyweights. All 10 starters (and IU's sixth man) played in the NBA.

[jsglow]

When one figures the complete package - recruiting, preparing, game coaching, relationship with players, etc. - Buzz probably is MU's best coach since Al. And I am a skeptic who dislikes hyperbole.

Yep.  And let's remember that this team was supposed to collapse after the Big 3 left.  They've actually improved.  And the Frosh/Soph class strong suggests that the trend will continue.

[Golden Avalanche]

From the original post in this thread, who is Buzz's "mini me"?

Scott Monarch. One of Buzz' very good friends and a questionable promotion to assistant coach a year ago for some.

[Golden Avalanche]

Yep.  And let's remember that this team was supposed to collapse after the Big 3 left.  They've actually improved.  And the Frosh/Soph class strong suggests that the trend will continue.

Big 3 as in James, McNeal, and Matthews? They left years ago. What does it have to do with this season's team?

[Goose]

Buzz is the best recruiter since Al. I cannot say Buzz is a better basketball coach than Crean or Majerus.

[Lennys Tap]

Big 3 as in James, McNeal, and Matthews? They left years ago. What does it have to do with this season's team?

What does it have to do with this year's team? Buzz was left with nobody in this year's senior class. He went into the junior college ranks and brought in DJO and Jae Crowder, 2 of the 3 best jucos in this year's D1 senior class. So instead of MU falling apart with the second of two successive empty classes inherited, Buzz has the program thriving.

[MarquetteDano]

Buzz is the best recruiter since Al. I cannot say Buzz is a better basketball coach than Crean or Majerus.

I can tell you Buzz has a better offense scheme versus Crean.  Defense at this point definitely has to lean towards Crean.  So at best it is even.

As frustrating it is to watch Marquette scurrying around trying to close out on shooters now, it was equally painful watching everyone argue on offense where they should be on one of Crean set plays while the clock ticked away.

[4everwarriors]

Overall, I would call Buzz the best coach since Al. However, KO and Deane had their teams play better defense, as did Raymonds and Majerus. Dukiet flat out sucked ass and Crean, well, he may as well be departed.

[Blackhat]

Crean would at least have you foul the hell out of the other team on D.  This extend out, no rotation, give them the bucket bullsh.t is the most annoying defense I've witnessed, going on 2 years now (we played decent D the first year with Buzz).   

[augoman]

pages 2 and 3 have generated some good conversation..., once everyone stopped blasting 'stones'. 
I agree that the D was designed much like KO's with Chris playing the part of Jimmy Mac.  With Chris out-the interior D needed shoring up, and the perimeter D suffers.
by the way, KO recruited great talent relative to his predecessor, and put MU back on track as a program.  his personal problems have been his downfall wherever he has gone, and seems to be a continuing theme.

the foolish calling for deleting posts of this nature would turn the 'scoop' into a very bland/boring place to go 'rah, rah'.  I think most of us would stop reading it.

[brewcity77]

Crean would at least have you foul the hell out of the other team on D.  This extend out, no rotation, give them the bucket bullsh.t is the most annoying defense I've witnessed, going on 2 years now (we played decent D the first year with Buzz).   

Didn't seem like there were many complaints when we had the 13th mist efficient defense in the country about 2 weeks ago. I think it's down to Buzz's roster makeup. He wants 3 PGs, 3Cs, and the rest switchables. The defense works with the right personnel. We can skate with one less PG because guys like Blue and Mayo can take that role in small doses. Unfortunately, no one else can fake being 6'11" with a 7'5" wingspan.

[LON]

Crean would at least have you foul the hell out of the other team on D.  This extend out, no rotation, give them the bucket bullsh.t is the most annoying defense I've witnessed, going on 2 years now (we played decent D the first year with Buzz).   

Are you pining for the days of tracking deflections and calling it solid D?

[MuMark]

All coaches track deflections now.....some just don't talk about it.

[Skatastrophy]

Crean would at least have you foul the hell out of the other team on D.  This extend out, no rotation, give them the bucket bullsh.t is the most annoying defense I've witnessed, going on 2 years now (we played decent D the first year with Buzz).   

We played terrible D the first few years under Buzz.  The kids couldn't rotate quick enough to shore up the holes in our D.  Talk about easy buckets by the 3rd pass and unlimited weak side back-cuts!

[Lennys Tap]

All coaches track deflections now.....some just don't talk about it.

And you know this...how? Do you have a mole reporting to you and only you from inside of "all" basketball programs?

[4everwarriors]

All coaches track deflections now.....some just don't talk about it.

And some self-promoting idiots talk about it constantly.

[tower912]

The non-Buzz  fans would argue that Buzz would trumpet it, too, if his defense ever generated any.     I'm a buzz fan.

[Blackhat]

Our adjusted D ratings under Buzz for Ken Pom:
2009: 51st in country  (with same personnel Crean had in 2008 with 10th ranked D sans Barro)
2010: 57th in country
2011: 61st in country

going downward....will be interesting to see what we end at this year.  That's not how you build an elite winner unless you're tremendously good on the offensive end and rarely have an off night shooting.

The same mistakes are being made after three years, it's systemic imo.

[Silkk the Shaka]

Our adjusted D ratings under Buzz for Ken Pom:
2009: 51st in country  (with same personnel Crean had in 2008 with 10th ranked D sans Barro)
2010: 57th in country
2011: 61st in country

going downward....will be interesting to see what we end at this year.  That's not how you build an elite winner unless you're tremendously good on the offensive end and rarely have an off night shooting.

The same mistakes are being made after three years, it's systemic imo.

The system requires athletes to apply pressure at the 1-4 positions.  Check on the personal.

Then it requires an eraser at the 5.  With Otule, we were getting that for 20-25 minutes per game, and the defense was much improved early this season.  We need Otule back.  With him in there, it's pretty much the perfect defense to run considering the personnel we have at the 1-4 positions are close to ideal for the scheme.

I also think it requires time to ingrain the rotations into your brain so that they become second nature.  The guards looked much tighter to start the season than we were at almost any point last year due to so many newcomers.  So would you rather Buzz ditch a scheme he thinks will work long term to fit the personnel, meaning we're perpetually a year behind?  Or would you rather he implement it now and have it pounded into everyone's brain by the time they're upperclassmen?  Hopefully along the way we get the personnel to play closer to 40 minutes with an eraser at center.

BTW - we were 13th in kenpom's defensive ratings when Otule went down.

[Golden Avalanche]

And some self-promoting idiots talk about it constantly.

Agree. Fucking hate it when Pitino prattles on about Kuric's "deflections" number.

[leever]

All coaches track deflections now.....some just don't talk about it.

Pretty sure that the University of Buffalo Bulls do not track deflections

[GGGG]

That's the University AT Buffalo Bulls...thankyouverymuch.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/University_at_Buffalo,_The_State_University_of_New_York