collapse

* '23-'24 SOTG Tally


2023-24 Season SoG Tally
Kolek11
Ighodaro6
Jones, K.6
Mitchell2
Jones, S.1
Joplin1

'22-23
'21-22 * '20-21 * '19-20
'18-19 * '17-18 * '16-17
'15-16 * '14-15 * '13-14
'12-13 * '11-12 * '10-11

* Big East Standings

Please Register - It's FREE!

The absolute only thing required for this FREE registration is a valid e-mail address.  We keep all your information confidential and will NEVER give or sell it to anyone else.
Login to get rid of this box (and ads) , or register NOW!

* Next up: The long cold summer

Marquette
Marquette

Open Practice

Date/Time: Oct 11, 2024 ???
TV: NA
Schedule for 2023-24
27-10

Author Topic: [Cracked Sidewalks] RPI Forecast has MU finishing 3rd in the country  (Read 1715 times)

CrackedSidewalksSays

  • Guest
RPI Forecast has MU finishing 3rd in the country

Written by: noreply@blogger.com (bamamarquettefan1)

If you didn’t check Cracked Sidewalks yesterday, please first check out the great story on how Buzz, acting AD Mike Broeker, Jim McIlvaine, Jimmy Butler, Lazar Hayward and some of my colleagues here at Cracked Sidewalks teamed up to reach out to young Liam Kelly, who is thankfully free of cancer today.  

That was a real Thanksgiving story, that makes us remember how trivial basketball is by comparison...

MU's tougher schedule results in projected RPI of 3
On December 31, 2009, I noted that scheduling seven or eight non-Top 200 teams every year was killing Marquette’s RPI, and could cost us a bid.  

This season, Marquette is projected to play only two schools out of the top 200 (Mount Saint Mary’s, 280th and Winthrop, 263rd).  MU is 53-1 against such teams since 2003, DePaul being the one loss.  

table.tableizer-table {border: 1px solid #CCC; font-family: Arial, Helvetica, sans-serif; font-size: 12px;} .tableizer-table td {padding: 4px; margin: 3px; border: 1px solid #ccc;}
.tableizer-table th {background-color: #104E8B; color: #FFF; font-weight: bold;}


SeasonRPIvs. non-top 200 [/tr]
2012 Projected3rd 2-0
201150th 7-0
201054th 7-1
200930th 8-0
200820th 7-0
200722nd 5-0
200630th3-0
200591st 4-0
200475th6-0
20038th4-0

Cutting down on the number of teams played against Non-Top 200 teams has helped propel Marquette up to a projected RPI of 3, a spot normally reserved for a No. 1 or No. 2 seed.  Duke and Alabama also benefit by only projecting to play two non-top 200 opponents, while Missouri is the only team projected to crack the top 10 despite playing seven non-Top 200 teams:

Projected RPI top 10 (non-top 200 opponents in parenthesis)
1. Duke 2 (NC Greensboro, Boston College)
2. Alabama 2 (Al A&M, Detroit)
3. MARQUETTE 2 (Mount St. Mary's, Winthrop)
4. Ohio State 4 (Jackson St, VMI, TX Pan Am, SC Upstate)
5. Kentucky 5 (Marist, Radford, Chatt, Samford, AR Little Rock)
6. Syracuse 5 (Fordham, Manhattan, Albany, Colgate, E. Mich)
7. Missouri 7 (SE Miss St, Niagra, Bingh, NW St, Navy, Kenn, W&M,
8. Purdue 6 (N. Ill, High Point, Coppin St., W. Car, E. Mich, IUPU-FW,
9. Kansas 3 (Tows, UCLA, N. Dak)
10. North Carolina 6 (Miss Valley, Tenn St, Evansv, Nichol, Monm, BC)

These forecasts assume Jeff Sagarin’s projections, which have Marquette finishing 25-6.  Even if that proves unrealistic, the better scheduling would enable Marquette to finish with an RPI of roughly 24 even with a 21-10 mark, and even if MU went just 19-12 this season they project to have an RPI of 42, higher than the last two years.

Last year MU's critics were able to point out that the seven non-top 200 games meant MU was only 9-11 against Top 200 teams prior to the win at UConn.  Based on our No. 11 seed, it looks like the seven games against non-Top 200 teams meant MU really did have to win at UConn and vs. West Virginia in the Big East tournament to make the tourney.  This year the path looks much easier due to scheduling Top 200 teams like Jacksonville.

Jacksonville tries for 2nd straight upset at Florida today; visits MU Monday
Jacksonville projects to lose by 15 or 20 points to both Florida (today/Friday at 6 CST) and Marquette (Monday, 7 p.m. CST), which ranked No. 11 and No. 12 according to Ken Pomeroy coming into the game.  However, Jacksonville did pull off a huge upset of #1 NIT seed Arizona State in 2010, then followed up by going into Florida to pull off the upset last year, and held within a respectable 12 points at #20 Florida State this year.

Historically, Jacksonville actually had more 1st round NBA selections (7-6) than Marquette, until Lazar and Jimmy were drafted.  However, they are a long time from Artis Gilmore leading them to over 100 points a game and the 1970 national championship game against UCLA.  When I calculated the Value Add of every returning player last year, 6-foot-1 Keith McDougald was Jacksonville’s top player at 1775th – behind every returning MU player.  

They went 20-12 last year by scoring off steals and offensive rebounds, and this year is off to the same kind of start.  Keith McDougald (4 steals, 43 points) and Russell and Glenn Powell (5/43 and 4/49 respectively) need to turn teams over to score at the other end.  Meanwhile, Chris Davis (8 offensive rebounds and 27 points) and Delwan Graham (48/9) score by pounding the glass.

However, both last year and this they turned the ball over a lot, are very poor shooters, and foul a lot due to making up for a lack of height  - all things that seem to play into Marquette’s hands.

Marquette needs to take care of business Monday in a final tune-up before heading out to Madison next Saturday to take on Wisconsin (3:30 p.m. CST), which plays the UNC Tar Heels as their warm-up for the in-state rivalry.

Both Sagarin and Pomeroy predict Wisconsin will be the toughest test of the year for Marquette, with Sagarin predicting a 2-point loss but Pomeroy predicting MU getting blow out by 10 points.

http://www.crackedsidewalks.com/2011/11/rpi-forecast-has-mu-finishing-3rd-in.html

wojosdojo

  • All American
  • *****
  • Posts: 753
Re: [Cracked Sidewalks] RPI Forecast has MU finishing 3rd in the country
« Reply #1 on: November 25, 2011, 12:39:37 AM »
Did not expect to see UCLA in there for Kansas... A top 25 team to start the year falling apart

brewcity77

  • All American
  • *****
  • Posts: 26507
  • Warning-This poster may trigger thin skinned users
    • Cracked Sidewalks
Re: [Cracked Sidewalks] RPI Forecast has MU finishing 3rd in the country
« Reply #2 on: November 25, 2011, 05:30:15 AM »
Great stuff, bama. I know a lot of people doubted me when I said it, but I have believed ever since our schedule started to shape up that we would definitely be a top-20 RPI team, and that top-10 was possible.

Right now we're bolstered by Norfolk State, interestingly enough, who have been in the top-20 of most RPI projections I've seen. It's unrealistic to think they'll stay up there, but they are now being touted as one of the favorites for the MEAC, and if they keep winning games, could stay as a top-150 or better opponent.

I'll be keeping tabs on all our non-con opponents, and will be doing monthly updates on where they stand as the season goes on.
This space reserved for a 2024 2025 National Championship celebration banner.

APieperFan3

  • Team Captain
  • ****
  • Posts: 415
  • We Are Marquette
Re: [Cracked Sidewalks] RPI Forecast has MU finishing 3rd in the country
« Reply #3 on: November 25, 2011, 07:32:36 AM »
I'll be keeping tabs on all our non-con opponents, and will be doing monthly updates on where they stand as the season goes on.

Awesome, Brew. That will be nice to revert back to.
The "average fan" is an idiot.

MuMark

  • All American
  • *****
  • Posts: 4345
Re: [Cracked Sidewalks] RPI Forecast has MU finishing 3rd in the country
« Reply #4 on: November 25, 2011, 10:43:34 AM »
It will be interesting to revisit this at the end of the year.

Would anybody bet money on us finishing in the top 3?

I sure wouldn't.

Predictions like this at this point in the year are pretty worthless...IMO

 

feedback