29 years ago today...

[tower912]

One of my favorite books is 'The Jesuit Guide to Almost Everything' by James Martin.   It comes as close as anything to spelling out the Jesuit ethos. 

[Newsdreams]

One of my favorite books is 'The Jesuit Guide to Almost Everything' by James Martin.   It comes as close as anything to spelling out the Jesuit ethos.

I was just being sarcastic but thanks

[mu_hilltopper]

Scoop Lawyers:  What is the statute of limitations on outrage?

[Uncle Rico]

Scoop Lawyers:  What is the statute of limitations on outrage?

The older you get, the longer the statute.  Mostly because you're always outraged

[Spaniel with a Short Tail]

[Newsdreams]

Par for the course

[Avenue Commons]

Thanks for sharing. I'm not sure this subject has been discussed previously. Thanks for bringing it to our attention.

[Spotcheck Billy]

45 years ago today'Why bring that up now?': IU's Kent Benson was punched by Kareem Abdul-Jabbar in NBA debut

[Lennys Tap]

Says a lot from my perspective....very simplistic unrealistic view of the real world.

Newsie

I think a life based on principle IS pretty simple - not simplistic or unrealistic - but simple.

[Newsdreams]

Newsie

I think a life based on principle IS pretty simple - not simplistic or unrealistic - but simple.

Not how it works trust me

[tower912]

Newsie

I think a life based on principle IS pretty simple - not simplistic or unrealistic - but simple.

I think there is truth in this.    I suspect our choices of principles may be slightly different.   

[Lennys Tap]

I think their is truth in this.    I suspect our choices of principles may be slightly different.

Maybe, but I think people can sometimes disagree on solutions even when guided by the same or similar principles.

[rocket surgeon]

 
The 'meant to honor' BS is exactly that. BS.  It's racism plain and simple


   ding-ding-ding-ding

ya gotta use your strongest point early and often man-what took ya so long?? 

[tower912]

Particularly potent new cylinder of nitrous, I see.

[Uncle Rico]

 
The 'meant to honor' BS is exactly that. BS.  It's racism plain and simple


   ding-ding-ding-ding

ya gotta use your strongest point early and often man-what took ya so long??

Giving this a 9 out of 10

[Newsdreams]

Giving this a 9 out of 10

I'll give it an 8.5, no need to highlight racism, we all know.

[Hards Alumni]

 
The 'meant to honor' BS is exactly that. BS.  It's racism plain and simple


   ding-ding-ding-ding

ya gotta use your strongest point early and often man-what took ya so long??

If you don't think this thing is racist and is meant to honor, you're dumber than I thought you were.  And you're more racist than I thought you were.

[MU82]

If you don't think this thing is racist and is meant to honor, you're dumber than I thought you were.  And you're more racist than I thought you were.

Very fine people still love Willie Wampum.

[Dr. Blackheart]

If you don't think this thing is racist and is meant to honor, you're dumber than I thought you were.  And you're more racist than I thought you were.

That mascot made it just ten years from 1961-1971, with the Voting Rights Act happening in the middle of this. Retired for the very reason you state, and supported by many posters here as students I am guessing. The Warriors name lasted 22 more years with various mascots more tastefully done (one could argue) or fully balls that weren't?

The point remains: Is it the name or that paper mache costume that is the issue?  Or for most, was it the non-engaged, non-truthful way the MU admin handled this and many other university issues?

https://wiki.muscoop.com/doku.php/nickname/willie_wampum

[Hards Alumni]

That mascot made it just ten years from 1961-1971, with the Voting Rights Act happening in the middle of this. Retired for the very reason you state, and supported by many posters here as students I am guessing. The Warriors name lasted 22 more years with various mascots more tastefully done (one could argue) or fully balls that weren't?

The point remains: Is it the name or that paper mache costume that is the issue?  Or for most, was it the non-engaged, non-truthful way the MU admin handled this and many other university issues?

https://wiki.muscoop.com/doku.php/nickname/willie_wampum

All valid topics, but the mascot and use of the nickname with Native American imagery was racist.  Perhaps not entirely intentionally by everyone involved, but there is a good reason the nickname was changed.  The motivations of the university's decision to change or it's methods are irrelevant.

[Pakuni]

That mascot made it just ten years from 1961-1971, with the Voting Rights Act happening in the middle of this. Retired for the very reason you state, and supported by many posters here as students I am guessing. The Warriors name lasted 22 more years with various mascots more tastefully done (one could argue) or fully balls that weren't?

The point remains: Is it the name or that paper mache costume that is the issue?  Or for most, was it the non-engaged, non-truthful way the MU admin handled this and many other university issues?

https://wiki.muscoop.com/doku.php/nickname/willie_wampum

Whether the university botched the name change (it did) doesn't make the name change bad.
And if it were the way the admin handled this that were the "real" issue here, nobody would be here discussing it today. The university has messed up lots of things over the past three decades. This is the only one people still obsess over.
I mean, when was the last time you read the name Assata Shakur here? Where's the "x years ago today" posts about Jodi O'Brien?

[tower912]

'Warriors' is not an inherently racist word.  MU's history with that name certainly has imagery that, in hindsight, can certainly be called racially insensitive.   

It would have been difficult to completely purge the negative associations if the name was kept.   

Yes, if something like Joan of Arc had been the imagery all along, MU would likely have kept 'Warriors. '    It didn't happen.   The Golden Eagles mascot is approaching middle age.   

[Dr. Blackheart]

All valid topics, but the mascot and use of the nickname with Native American imagery was racist.  Perhaps not entirely intentionally by everyone involved, but there is a good reason the nickname was changed.  The motivations of the university's decision to change or it's methods are irrelevant.

It was clearly racist and was voted at the time as such. Many will disagree on the process over the next generation plus that followed, however, and mistrust reached much deeper than a nickname change.

[Frenns Liquor Depot]

I wonder what our mascot would have been if the Boston Braves relocated somewhere else than Milwaukee

[tower912]

Fair.