Big East Success Model

[WarhawkWarrior]

Here is the financial model that makes sense for the Big East Basketball

*  Big East Basketball withdraws from NCAA
*  All scholarship players receive expense allowances of $10,000 per year
*  US games are against league opponents and semi-professional (i.e. "D League")
*  Tourney Winner declared US Champion
*  World Championship played against foreign U-20 Teams
*  Annual Allstar game vs NBA All-rookie team

Results:

*  Top revenue basketball conference
*  The top tier talent would be attracted
*  Become viewed as the NBA minor league.
*  Hottest ticket in town

[WarhawkWarrior]

Here is the financial model that makes sense for the Big East Basketball

*  Big East Basketball withdraws from NCAA
*  All scholarship players receive expense allowances of $10,000 per year
*  US games are against league opponents and semi-professional (i.e. "D League")
*  Tourney Winner declared US Champion
*  World Championship played against foreign U-20 Teams
*  Annual Allstar game vs NBA All-rookie team

Results:

*  Top revenue basketball conference
*  The top tier talent would be attracted
*  Become viewed as the NBA minor league.
*  Hottest ticket in town

[MU B2002]

Graduation rate.  0.00%.

[KipsBayEagle]

And how is this going to happen?

[KipsBayEagle]

Better scenario however.  A group of animated, extraterrestrials threaten everyones favorite looney tunes characters.  Bugs Bunny, worrying about their future, challenge these aliens to an intergalactic basketball game with everything on the line.  Realizing the aliens may be better basketball players than expected, bugs bunny kidnaps and false imprisons dwayne wade in an animated universe where anything is possible.  Dwayne Wade realizes he needs help, so during a big east golf outing, he captures the rest of the big east and brings them into the animated universe to battle the space aliens and each other in often humorous, larger than life action.  Games will be broadcasted by twentieth century fox.

[MUlegends]

Smoke much?

[tower912]

Posting it twice doesn't make it twice as logical, no matter how many times Chicos, marquette84 and murf have tried.

[lab_warrior]

Smoke much?

Whatever it is, it's well above medical grade.  Maybe "Breaking Bad" 99% grade.  Ooof.

[MUCam]

I love the "leave the NCAA and pay the players" suggestions. Here's the problem: If you do that and it is successful, what stops the Big Ten, Big Twelve, etc, from following suit and doing the same?

You don't want to start an officially sanctioned* bidding war if you are a small Jesuit school, because eventually, you won't be able to keep up.


*Some might argue that unofficial bidding wars are already in place.

[Silkk the Shaka]

http://www.muscoop.com/index.php?topic=27888.0

Read westcoastwarrior's post in that thread if you don't read the whole article.  I agree it makes sense to pay the athletes making all the money for these schools, but they'll fight to the death to prevent that from happening.  Some small basketball schools with no power in any of this certainly aren't going to be the first to take the plunge, though it would be awesome to watch that play out.

[WarhawkWarrior]

Didn't mean to post twice.  I put in on the Hangin' site and it showed up in the SuperBar.  I guess the moderator didn't like it.

[Hards Alumni]

I love the "leave the NCAA and pay the players" suggestions. Here's the problem: If you do that and it is successful, what stops the Big Ten, Big Twelve, etc, from following suit and doing the same?

You don't want to start an officially sanctioned* bidding war if you are a small Jesuit school, because eventually, you won't be able to keep up.


*Some might argue that unofficial bidding wars are already in place.

Already can't keep up if the leagues go the way they are looking.

[Lennys Tap]

$10,000 a year? You really think that would keep players from Kentucky, Ohio State, etc.? That's funny.

[Warhawk Warrior]

Ha good one.  However NCAA schools would have to match the $10K for every other athlete covered by title IX.  Figure about 750 kids Versus 13.

[GGGG]

Actually, all schools would even under this (ridiculous) scenario.  Title IX isn't an NCAA rule, it is a federal law.  What you are suggesting is simply turning the BE into some glorified AAU league...no thanks.

[chcsportsfan]

Student athletes may not get a salary, but they still get a large monetary benefit to playing.

Between tuition, room and board, medical care, clothes/equipment, access to great facilities, flights around the country (some chartered) and a per diem when on the road (all tax free of course), students who attend MU are probably getting benefits close to if not more then a the average person coming out of college, all while at school.

People who say athletes do not get paid do not understand everything they are getting out of this deal.

[Dawson Rental]

Actually, all schools would even under this (ridiculous) scenario.  Title IX isn't an NCAA rule, it is a federal law.  What you are suggesting is simply turning the BE into some glorified AAU league...no thanks.

I'm not sure why you would find this to be distasteful.  Can you elaborate?

IF college basketball is going this direction -- and I no longer think that can be considered unthinkable -- I hope MU is in the forefront because this is not a model that will work out with 300 plus schools.  Whoever the first schools are who do this will have a HUGE leg up on the schools who attempt to follow.

I don't think that games against the NBA's Developmental League would be a great idea, but a World Championship played against foreign U-20 Teams seems like an inspired idea to me.

This is the kind of stuff that's getting let out of the bag due to the BCS schools' greed.  And these kinds of ideas could possibly change the landscape of colliegate athletics forever.  While there are many potential scape goats for this happening, my top two candidates would be Texas and ESPN.

[GGGG]

I typed AAU, but I meant "minor league"...I think I was thinking AAA or something.

You can't just blame the BCS greed.  Marquette also acts in a self-interested manner in these cases, but they simply don't have the leverage.  You can bet that MU would do the same if it could...

[🏀]

Phase 1: Collect underpants
Phase 2: ?
Phase 3: Profit

[buckchuckler]

Better scenario however.  A group of animated, extraterrestrials threaten everyones favorite looney tunes characters.  Bugs Bunny, worrying about their future, challenge these aliens to an intergalactic basketball game with everything on the line.  Realizing the aliens may be better basketball players than expected, bugs bunny kidnaps and false imprisons dwayne wade in an animated universe where anything is possible.  Dwayne Wade realizes he needs help, so during a big east golf outing, he captures the rest of the big east and brings them into the animated universe to battle the space aliens and each other in often humorous, larger than life action.  Games will be broadcasted by twentieth century fox.

HAHAHAHAHAHHAHAHAHAH

Haven't had a good Space Jam reference in quite a while.

[Dawson Rental]

I typed AAU, but I meant "minor league"...I think I was thinking AAA or something.

You can't just blame the BCS greed.  Marquette also acts in a self-interested manner in these cases, but they simply don't have the leverage.  You can bet that MU would do the same if it could...

Point taken... or is it point blanken?

Case in point Boston College approving adding Pittsburgh and Syracuse, but nixing UConn.

[MU Fan in Connecticut]

And BC wonders why no one cares about them anymore in New England.  Big East should think about adding UMass just to put the screws to BC even more.  They're going BCS football and supposedly Patriots owner, Bob Kraft is a big supporter of them.

[MARQKC]

Actually, this makes remarkable economic sense. Imagine the TV contract alone. Could we use the profit to bring back football?

[GGGG]

This would be a little more compelling than the NBDL to the casual sports fan. Meanwhile when march madness is going on the BE won't be part of it.