Projected Starting Line Up

[flash]

I know this thread has probably been posted a dozen times, but I thought i would start one up again
Here is my projected starting Line up with projected stats, thoughts?

1 Cadougan 6 ppg 4.5 apg
2 DJO 18ppg
3 Jamil Wilson 10ppg 5 rpg
4 Jae Crowder 14ppg 7 rpg
5 Chris Otule 8 ppg 6rpg

[GOO]

I think you nailed it.  No discussion here... that is one heck of a starting line up, BTW. 

[Nukem2]

The second 5 ain't too shabby either. 

[GGGG]

Unless buzz does something strange like with ewill last year that is likely it. The real questions will be...

Who is back up point?  Dwil or Blue?

Who is back up at forward?  Juan or Jamail?

How often do we go small with neither Otule or Ox on the floor?  How often do we go big with both?

Who is going to have a lot of bench time?  Mayo?  Jamail?  At some point you can't have a 11 man rotation.

I feel real good about where we are going though.

[We R Final Four]

Man--does that look good.  I can't frickin wait!

[77ncaachamps]

Agreed. Nailing down the next 3 off the bench is hard.

Of course, it's probably situationally based (i.e., foul trouble, injuries).

I'd guess:

6) Davante
7) Vander
8) Jamail

[MuMark]

FWIW


@JonRothstein
Jon Rothstein Hearing Marquette frosh Todd Mayo in mix for major mins in Golden Eagles backcourt w DJO, Jr Cadougan, + Vander Blue.

[bamamarquettefan]

I know this thread has probably been posted a dozen times, but I thought i would start one up again
Here is my projected starting Line up with projected stats, thoughts?

1 Cadougan 6 ppg 4.5 apg
2 DJO 18ppg
3 Jamil Wilson 10ppg 5 rpg
4 Jae Crowder 14ppg 7 rpg
5 Chris Otule 8 ppg 6rpg

Why are you talking about Marquette basketball instead of realignment on these pages :-)

Love it.  I believe Davante plays more minutes than Otule, but agree that shoudl be the line-up.

The thing I keep hoping is that we do a lot of high pressure, 5-for-5 subs whenever we need to speed it up.

The whole roster can play now.  I just keep remembering how dominant MU was when we shocked everyone by rolling through Michigan, Xaver and Florida State for more than 30 minutes two years ago, but then Buzz had to pull back because we just weren't deep enough.  This year even though the roster isn't full, we can play that game of cutting off every passing lane and then rotating a fresh 5 if we want too.

I believe Buzz's defenses are very good when we are contesting every passing lane, but mediocre when we don't, so that's my hope.

I could be completely wrong, and maybe the traditional 8 man rotation is still best, but man we would be leaving a lot of talent on the bench even with that great 8-man rotatoin.

[DomJamesToTheBasket]

I can't remember going into a season with so close to a sure thing for the first 5.  The only potential adjustment I could see happening is Davante "forcing" his way into a starter role....especially if he is moving like Hester! 

[tower912]

I think Otule starts even if DG's conditioning is immensely improved simply because he is always going to be the better defender.   DG will come in and be the top offensive option off of the bench, as well as changing the pace, but start CO to establish your defense and then bring in DG.

[Lennys Tap]

In the past Buzz has played a short rotation out of necessity. We have 7 proven contributors this year. Jones gets first shot at #8. Here's hoping some combo of Anderson, Mayo and Wilson force (or allow) Buzz to expand from there by their play. Mayo could be the "instant offense" component we've missed off the bench lately.

[avid1010]

I think Otule starts even if DG's conditioning is immensely improved simply because he is always going to be the better defender.   DG will come in and be the top offensive option off of the bench, as well as changing the pace, but start CO to establish your defense and then bring in DG.

I'd agree.  There are so many variables (fouls, match-ups, etc.) but Buzz typically brings offense off the bench, and starts the better defender.  Interesting that Mayo's name keeps coming up.  Seems like he's emerging as the most ready to play.  Anderson had/has a lot of hype, but I was less than impressed watching him this summer (and understanding the setting).

[tower912]

If Mayo is progressing as quickly as reported, this could lead to more 3 guard sets.    And is he progressing as a 1 or a 2?    If as a 2, who will be the back-up 1?   I agree that it is nice to know who the top 7 are.    A blessing we don't often have.    The big questions are who will get the minutes backing up the point and who will be the first forward off of the bench, JJ or JA?

[NersEllenson]

To me it isn't a surprise to hear Mayo is showing well - what he did the last half of his year at Notre Dame prep - playing against and with Top Flight players - puts him far ahead of a typical recruit coming in from a normal high school program.  Combine his performance there with his bloodlines - it just seemed he could be an early contributor. 

I've never seen him play, but have said from Day 1 of seeing different highlight videos - he plays with great tempo, pace, and cerebral-ness.  He reminds me a lot of D-Wade in this sense - though not as explosive as D-Wade.

Last thought - how much better are all of these guys getting simply by having to compete against each other each and every day in practice.  Now that Buzz has 10/11 true high major guys - the opportunity for growth as a player/toughness through the competition is sure to yield maximum potential being reached for all the guys...which should lead to great team results.

[flash]

I really hope Buzz finds a starting line up early, before big east play and sticks with it.  Last year he played musical chairs with the starting line up and i think it really hurt the team.  The players do better when the know their rolls, starter, or bench player. I also hated what Buzz did not starting DJO in the beginning of the season, and I hated even more how he started EWill, played him for 2 minutes then didn't play him for the rest of the game. 

[shiloh26]

I think Otule starts even if DG's conditioning is immensely improved simply because he is always going to be the better defender.   DG will come in and be the top offensive option off of the bench, as well as changing the pace, but start CO to establish your defense and then bring in DG.

I think so too.  There is enough offense to go around in that first 5, and Otule is a better defender and rebounder.  Devante will have an important role providing a jolt of offense off the bench... I really like spelling Otule with Gardner, it gives the other team's defender something totally different to deal with.  

[jsglow]

Something tells me that one of the Frosh will end up getting meaningful minutes.  Frankly, watching the young players develop is my favorite part of the early season games.

[DomJamesToTheBasket]

I think so too.  There is enough offense to go around in that first 5, and Otule is a better defender and rebounder.  Devante will have an important role providing a jolt of offense off the bench... I really like spelling Otule with Gardner, it gives the other team's defender something totally different to deal with.  

I'm not sold on Otule being the better rebounder,  but he is definitely the better defender.  Gardner just makes a lot more sense being the 6th man with his scoring punch coming off the bench.  If we had Otule, Vander, and Jamail the first coming in off the bench our offense would take a nose dive.

[RyanConroy]

According to my basketball sources (I feel like such an clown even saying that), Derrick Wilson has looked pretty impressive in these early practice sessions. For now, I'd expect him to be backing up Cadougan at point and getting 5-10 minutes per game.

Conversely, I've actually heard Mayo hasn't looked so hot, even on the offensive end. It's still very early (we'll know a lot more once they start full-group practice), but I find it interesting Rothstein would tweet something like that given what I've heard about his performance.

[Dr. Blackheart]

According to my basketball sources (I feel like such an clown even saying that), Derrick Wilson has looked pretty impressive in these early practice sessions. For now, I'd expect him to be backing up Cadougan at point and getting 5-10 minutes per game.

Conversely, I've actually heard Mayo hasn't looked so hot, even on the offensive end. It's still very early (we'll know a lot more once they start full-group practice), but I find it interesting Rothstein would tweet something like that given what I've heard about his performance.

Not to knock the word on the street as I do appreciate it, but Rothstein's source on Mayo is a Marquette coach sitting right next to him.  Also told him that JWil is tearing it up at times. Key with JWil will be consistency, in my mind.

[rocky_warrior]

Not to knock the word on the street as I do appreciate it, but Rothstein's source on Mayo is a Marquette coach sitting right next to him.  Also told him that JWil is tearing it up at times. Key with JWil will be consistency, in my mind.

I'll gladly take both sources, and combine all the "good" stuff to assume, Derrick, Todd, and Jamil are all doing great 

Of course, this leaves me concerned that nobody is saying anything good about Juan!

[Dr. Blackheart]

I'll gladly take both sources, and combine all the "good" stuff to assume, Derrick, Todd, and Jamil are all doing great 

For sure, and they are probably both right, especially considering he is a frosh.

[RyanConroy]

Not to knock the word on the street as I do appreciate it, but Rothstein's source on Mayo is a Marquette coach sitting right next to him.  Also told him that JWil is tearing it up at times. Key with JWil will be consistency, in my mind.

Hey, sounds good to me! As long as MU coaches are happy with his progress, I surely am too.

[brewcity77]

I know this thread has probably been posted a dozen times, but I thought i would start one up again
Here is my projected starting Line up with projected stats, thoughts?

1 Cadougan 6 ppg 4.5 apg
2 DJO 18ppg
3 Jamil Wilson 10ppg 5 rpg
4 Jae Crowder 14ppg 7 rpg
5 Chris Otule 8 ppg 6rpg

My first thought is that this year is the most cut-and-dried starting lineup since Buzz's first year. My second is that you're underestimating DJO's points. I think he's really going to light it up. I'd pencil him in for 21+ ppg this year.

[wadesworld]

My first thought is that this year is the most cut-and-dried starting lineup since Buzz's first year. My second is that you're underestimating DJO's points. I think he's really going to light it up. I'd pencil him in for 21+ ppg this year.

Wow.  I think you're predicting way too much from him.  I expect him to have a good season, but Dwyane Wade averaged 21.5 ppg the year he lead us to the Final Four and was selected with the #5 overall draft pick.  And that was in the CUSA.  If DJO averages 21+ ppg this year I will be shocked and admit that I am wrong.  I would guess 16-17 ppg.

Lazar averaged 18 ppg his senior year and Jimmy averaged 16 ppg his senior year.