What's Happening?

[wojosdojo]

Can someone simply put all these shenanigans into a phase or sentence. All I got from ESPN, JS, XHoops, and here is...
1. Cuse and Pitt are leaving the best basketball conference to play in a more competitive football conference.
2. UCONN might do the same.
3. Kansas, Kansas St., and Mizzou might join the Big East (chances?)
4. Memphis might join Big East
5. ECU and UCF might join Big East

...and that's about it. I'm well aware I know far less than most of you and these topics may be false.

[brewcity77]

Can someone simply put all these shenanigans into a phase or sentence. All I got from ESPN, JS, XHoops, and here is...
1. Cuse and Pitt are leaving the best basketball conference to play in a more competitive football conference.
2. UCONN might do the same.
3. Kansas, Kansas St., and Mizzou might join the Big East (chances?)
4. Memphis might join Big East
5. ECU and UCF might join Big East

...and that's about it. I'm well aware I know far less than most of you and these topics may be false.

1. They are also leaving the best basketball conference to play in the best basketball conference. With Duke, UNC, Syracuse, Pitt, and Maryland (etc), the ACC is now top dog.
2. Because they'd have more stability and be in the best basketball conference.
3. Seems unlikely now that the Big 12 is stabilizing, though Missouri might be joining the SEC.
4-5. All up in the air right now...all three are possible, but until the dust of the Big 12 settles and the ACC decides to stop for the time being, we won't really know anything.

[NoCheese]

As I understand it from a good friend who is a BC alum and BC football season ticket holder, BC is going to anything in its power to prevent UCONN from coming into the ACC. When BC left Big East, UCONN was the biggest thorn in their side and that hasn't been forgotten.

[muhs03]

As I understand it from a good friend who is a BC alum and BC football season ticket holder, BC is going to anything in its power to prevent UCONN from coming into the ACC. When BC left Big East, UCONN was the biggest thorn in their side and that hasn't been forgotten.

Nevermind the UConn fans that threw rocks and glass bottles at BC fans/students and team buses when they met for the last time.

[NoCheese]

From Twitter:

KevinMcNamara33 Kevin McNamara
Good for Big East t.co/ZVQ8VJfZ but is UConn happy? This is a BCS football league going forward? Word is BC blocking UConn-to-ACC

[drbchilds]

UConn also filed a suit against BC......Ironic that they are now doing the exact same thing that BC did and UCONN  pissed and moaned about just a few years ago....

[MU Fan in Connecticut]

As I understand it from a good friend who is a BC alum and BC football season ticket holder, BC is going to anything in its power to prevent UCONN from coming into the ACC. When BC left Big East, UCONN was the biggest thorn in their side and that hasn't been forgotten.

I'm hearing the same thing locally.  It doesn't help that UConn has been pilfering football recruits from Boston College.  BC wants/thinks that it's the New England college football team and it doesn't like UConn unsurping them which has been happrning since their move to the ACC (at least in Southern New England).   

[Dr. Blackheart]

What's happening?  PUSU travel directors are working over time to book good airfares for all their sports and alumni. They were bemoaning travelling to the BE as the cities were too geographically dispersed (like Wisconsin)...so here is what their fans and sports teams get:

Cuse to: Miami (1426 miles), Tallahassee (1242) Clemson (859), Atlanta (967), Raleigh (633), Durham (628), Winston-Salem (647), Chapel Hill (657), Blacksburg (571), Charlottsville (495), College Park (366), and Boston (313).  Milwaukee (765)

Pitt to: Miami (1174 miles), Tallahassee (900), Clemson (565), Atlanta (691), Raleigh (505), Durham (479), Winston-Salem (401), Chapel Hill (318), Blacksburg (322), Charlottsville (318), College Park (243), and Boston (589).  Milwaukee (548)

So PUSU is complaining about the current BE dispersion to the farthest west state of Wisconsin...while these Carolina schools only have to travel a few miles consistently. Talk about a costly and disjointed geographic dispersion--granted all in one time zone. Did they really study this very well? Granted USF or TCU will be out of the way as well, but these are the exceptions vs. the rule in the BE.  Some of these cities will even be hard to get direct flights to. No wonder their fans are upset.

[muhs03]

What's happening?  PUSU travel directors are working over time to book good airfares for all their sports and alumni. They were bemoaning travelling to the BE as the cities were too geographically dispersed (like Wisconsin)...so here is what their fans and sports teams get:

Cuse to: Miami (1426 miles), Tallahassee (1242) Clemson (859), Atlanta (967), Raleigh (633), Durham (628), Winston-Salem (647), Chapel Hill (657), Blacksburg (571), Charlottsville (495), College Park (366), and Boston (313).  Milwaukee (765)

Pitt to: Miami (1174 miles), Tallahassee (900), Clemson (565), Atlanta (691), Raleigh (505), Durham (479), Winston-Salem (401), Chapel Hill (318), Blacksburg (322), Charlottsville (318), College Park (243), and Boston (589).  Milwaukee (548)

So PUSU is complaining about the current BE dispersion to the farthest west state of Wisconsin...while these Carolina schools only have to travel a few miles consistently. Talk about a costly and disjointed geographic dispersion--granted all in one time zone. Did they really study this very well? Granted USF or TCU will be out of the way as well, but these are the exceptions vs. the rule in the BE.  Some of these cities will even be hard to get direct flights to. No wonder their fans are upset.

Why would it be hard to get direct flights to venues? ALL BCS football teams fly a minimum of 3 privates jets to games: typically, its one for offense, one for defense, and one for players that dress but dont play/coaches/medical staff/athletic department/boosters. UT sometimes flies as many as 6 jets to their rivalry games to satisfy their boosters who want to cozy up to the program. Sure, non-revenue sports fly commercially but they are an after-thought.

I found this (an interview with Syracuse's AD:

Donna Ditota: Now you're going to have to travel all your teams, it seems, a bit farther. You used to be able to bus to Rutgers, St. John's, UConn, Villanova, Seton Hall. Now you can maybe drive to BC and Maryland. How much more might that cost you?

Daryl Gross: If you add up the mileage, it really is a wash. And tell me what the Big East is going to become? Let's just say it becomes Baylor and Iowa State and Kansas and Kansas State. That's tricky anyway. It's not like the Big East was going to stay the same. And as it was, we were going to be going to TCU, South Florida, Wisconsin. You're still going to two different time zones. I can give you the exact mileage of every single place and I can tell you the average distance of going to the ACC schools and going to Big East schools is no more than 100 miles. We did the research on that. And heck, we'll be operating with more dollars (from the ACC television contract) to begin with. To say we're ahead of the game is an understatement.

So, I guess he's assuming that had Pitt and Cuse stayed, some B12 teams would have been in the picture...

[Dr. Blackheart]

Pretty sure football takes the charter but field hockey, track and 12 others take commercial.  Throw in bands and equipment for football in trucks.  So bussesare the same mileage as airplanes everywhere?  Laughable as to the sniff test.  They screwed the pooch.

[4everwarriors]

Was the mutt good lookin' at least? I mean, would BeeJay have an interest?

[karavotsos]

In a sentence, as long as Deonte Burton stays committed, we're good through 2016.  In two sentences, with Buzz here, we'll be more than fine for much longer.  In three, it's too bad the Big East basketball golden age had such a short run because it was great while it lasted; it is awesome to have Boeheim and Calhoun come to the Bradley Center and to beat them.

To ramble on, I feel worse for Boeheim for losing the Big East than I do for MU.  MU is pretty much an independent anyway.  The Big East was obviously the best affiliation for MU, but MU will find a way.  Syracuse is the Big East (in basketball).  Two-three zones and seven foot centers with 6'10" power forwards, consistently.  The league that went six fouls before fouling out.  Syracuse grinds.  And now they're going to the run-and-gun, no defense playing, three-point chucking one-note ACC (except FL St, but SYR can win a 50-48 game 70-48; they can play half-court).  It would be like if the Packers went to the CFL for money.  Except the Packers going to the CFL may make more sense geographically.  Boeheim finally has a reason to whine.

[bamamarquettefan]

UConn also filed a suit against BC......Ironic that they are now doing the exact same thing that BC did and UCONN  pissed and moaned about just a few years ago....

Va tech actually joined the suit back then until the va gov pushed UVA to get them invited

I'm still dreaming bc could get so ticked they would want to come back if uconn got into the acc, but I know there are 20 million reasons that won't happen

[Litehouse]

If the Big East would have added those Big 12 teams, it could have split into East/West divisions, which could have reduced travel costs for Syracuse.  The ACC's divisions are a jumbled mess, with BC and FSU in the same division.

[T-Bone]

Thread reminds me of this:
http://youtu.be/41tO0xwSsco?t=1m50s

[GOO]

If the BE stays together, the loss of Pitt and Syracuse will probably be a good thing for MU.  It will open up some NY recruiting to recruits who want to be in the BE and play at MSG, etc.  Plus, it makes MU a higher profile team in the BE.  It is still a great conference, but a little easier for MU to shine.   

I hope the BE can keep it together.

[wojosdojo]

The question for me is what does basketball do for these schools? 9 of out 10 people would know the basketball coaches names before the football, is that because they play big east football? I would imagine if MU had a football team I'd be much more into it but the fact that if your team has a hiccup one week theres a slim shot at winning it all (and everyone plays to win it all). Look at teams in the past. Some never lost and had to play for 3rd, not 1st. Thats not right. What are the chances of the Butlers of basketball wining a BCS Championship? Thats not right. Maybe when someone decides to wake up and realize how much more exciting college football would be with (even) a 20(ish) team playoff system more will tune in. So leaving the best conference in basketball doesn't really mean anything to these teams is what I get out of this.