On the bright side...

[JTBMU7]

Let's not forget one thing in all this... the NCAA means nothing to Football, they can break away and decide their own champ (like they have been doing for years) and nothing will change other than the names of the conferences and the where the schools align.

However, the NCAA is EVERYTHING to college basketball. NCAA hoops is essentially a 1-month league with all their $ being made in March/April. Remember, CBS has a 14-year, $11 billion deal in place... conference realignment will have little affect on that from an MU perspective.

I still think that nowadays, having a coach that gets players to the NBS is the best recruiting tool you can offer. It looks like we have that. Not saying it won't be rocky and we won't lose revenue in TV deals, but the opportunity to recruit the best players and to play for championships will not be lost due to this shake up.

There will be no "BCS" of basketball and we will not be shut out like Boise/TCU/BYU are about to be....

[MUMac]

Today, you are correct.  Play this through, and the BCS could completely separate from the NCAA - for basketball, football ... heck even LAX.

[LAZER]

I'm hoping down the line, the next major transformation is a BCS break from the NCAA and a maybe some sort of affiliation with the NFL.  Probably pie in the sky, but it would put MU in a great position if things were to be run by basketball schools.

[GGGG]

I'm hoping down the line, the next major transformation is a BCS break from the NCAA and a maybe some sort of affiliation with the NFL.  Probably pie in the sky, but it would put MU in a great position if things were to be run by basketball schools.

This means MU essentially becomes part of the new Division II you know....

[MUMac]

This means MU essentially becomes part of the new Division II you know....

Yep.  I don't view it as a positive.

[LAZER]

I guess what I meant is that football breaks off entirely into this "BCS" division, where all other sports stay aligned with their current conferences.

[TJ]

I'm hoping down the line, the next major transformation is a BCS break from the NCAA and a maybe some sort of affiliation with the NFL.  Probably pie in the sky, but it would put MU in a great position if things were to be run by basketball schools.

A great position for what?  No one would care about the remnants of the NCAA if the BCS schools broke away completely.  The NCAA tournament would be dead.  Oh, it would still be played, but the lack of major teams would mean that virtually no one would watch and it would lose prominence very quickly.  And the BCS would hold a new BCS Basketball Tournament for all the teams that the majority of people actually want to watch.

[GGGG]

And meanwhile they won't have to share revenue with anyone...including the hundreds of lower level NCAA programs whose championships are essentially underwritted by the current D1 basketball tournament.

[MUMac]

The only bright side I can see is that the NCAA currently has no control over college football postseason.  The BCS currently has no contorl over college basketball at all.  If it stays that way, we will land on our feet.  If the BCS tries to take over other sports, it could get very ugly.  I mean that in many ways - not just applicable to MU.

[TJ]

This could end up with 64 greedy schools completely destroying college athletics for everyone but themselves.

Or it could end up with 64 greedy schools overhauling college football completely and leaving the NCAA to deal with the fallout of what they did and what it means for the rest of college athletics.

[JTBMU7]

Today, you are correct.  Play this through, and the BCS could completely separate from the NCAA - for basketball, football ... heck even LAX.

I think i am correct for the next 14 years... or at least I hope...

Also, the BCS wants NOTHING to do with anything but Football. Every other sport is a drain on football revenue. The only thing that makes $ outside of that is March Madness...

I also don't see the BCS breaking into any kind of actual governing body because it doesn't even really exist. The BCS is just a collection of schools who invented a system to monopolize the best Bowls in College Football. The reason they were able to do that is the NCAA never sponsored any kind of Championship in football. The NCAA owns the tournament, and makes a TON of $ off it, so that's not going to get privatized any time soon.

[MUMac]

I hope you are correct.  I, though, see potential greed among the 4 conferences and 64 schools.  They would not need to share revenue.  They could make it an awfully nice basketball tournament.  They could include the other sports with little negative cost impact to them.  It may help boost all the sports - through TV contracts ... that they would not share.

It may not be the BCS that remains, but another body that takes it's place for all the sports.

[JTBMU7]

This could end up with 64 greedy schools completely destroying college athletics for everyone but themselves.

Or it could end up with 64 greedy schools overhauling college football completely and leaving the NCAA to deal with the fallout of what they did and what it means for the rest of college athletics.

Exactly. This is all about Football, and the $ it generates. Nothing else. That's the advantage the BCS schools have, they are not tied to anything related to the NCAA so they can do this sort of thing with no real reprecussions.
Not saying this will not affect MU negatively, but it will not destroy our program or MU's ability to compete for Championships...

[TJ]

It may not be the BCS that remains, but another body that takes it's place for all the sports.

I thought it was understood that the term "BCS" is a placeholder for whatever actual governing body they create to manage themselves if they choose to break away completely from the NCAA.

[MUMac]

I thought it was understood that the term "BCS" is a placeholder for whatever actual governing body they create to manage themselves if they choose to break away completely from the NCAA.

That is the way I intended it, but it seemed to cause some confusion, so I clarified.

[TJ]

Exactly. This is all about Football, and the $ it generates. Nothing else. That's the advantage the BCS schools have, they are not tied to anything related to the NCAA so they can do this sort of thing with no real reprecussions.
Not saying this will not affect MU negatively, but it will not destroy our program or MU's ability to compete for Championships...

Well, option 1 in my post did imply that this would destroy MU's ability to compete for Championships.  I guess you could say that we'd have a great shot at winning an NCAA Tournament, but would it really feel the same if UNC, Duke, UK, UCLA, etc. all competed in a completely different tournament?

[LAZER]

But if the football schools breakoff into a "BCS" division, they wouldn't be affiliated with the NCAA.  This makes it plausible that basketball and all other sports realign back into conferences where we currently are and have no need to align themselves with the way the football schools do in a "BCS" divsion.

[GGGG]

But if the football schools breakoff into a "BCS" division, they wouldn't be affiliated with the NCAA.  This makes it plausible that basketball and all other sports realign back into conferences where we currently are and have no need to align themselves with the way the football schools do in a "BCS" divsion.

That's not going to happen.

[MUMac]

But if the football schools breakoff into a "BCS" division, they wouldn't be affiliated with the NCAA.  This makes it plausible that basketball and all other sports realign back into conferences where we currently are and have no need to align themselves with the way the football schools do in a "BCS" divsion.

It is not football that is going to the Super Conferences - it is the universities.  Thus, that would include their basketball, soccer, track, la crosse ... programs as well.  I guess I am unclear as to your comment.

[LAZER]

That's not going to happen.

Why not?  What would the restrictions be?

[GGGG]

There are no restrictions.  The BCS schools *could* very well do as you are suggesting for football.  However, they *won't.*  They are not going to form a BCS division for football, and then simply go back to the other conferences for other sports.  They are going to make a clean break and leave the others behind.

[LAZER]

There are no restrictions.  The BCS schools *could* very well do as you are suggesting for football.  However, they *won't.*  They are not going to form a BCS division for football, and then simply go back to the other conferences for other sports.  They are going to make a clean break and leave the others behind.

"could"...So there's a chance????

[GGGG]

I "could" strip off my clothes in the office and run around naked down the the hallway - but I'm not going to.

[MUMac]

"could"...So there's a chance????

Yes, Lloyd.

[LAZER]

Yes, Lloyd.

I guess that everything is just so f*cked up now with what looks like to be 4 superconferences that nothing will surprise me and i'm trying to disregard and preconceived notions of what college sports should be.  That's where my head's at at least.