Deonte Burton update!!

[77ncaachamps]

Semi-Cryptic messages from him on Twitter... His interest in Milwaukee is telling! Look at his messages from today and last night.

http://twitter.com/#!/DeeBurton6

For those who can't see the tweets:

"I'm change Milwaukee just wait and see!"

"When u hear Milwaukee you gone think of me!"

I think he's a hometown boy, but no direct mention of MU.

[bamamarquettefan]

Why commit, there is tremendous amount of time between now and then.  2 school years away, MU
might find 2 better players by then.

1 in hand better than 2 in the Bush, and doubt we would find 2 players higher than his #28 ranking in Rivals, though possible we could find two better than his Scout rating, but I doubt by much.

I believe we will need some early commits to get recruits as high as him, so I'm still hoping for a commit soon.

[MUMac]

For those who can't see the tweets:

"I'm change Milwaukee just wait and see!"

"When u hear Milwaukee you gone think of me!"

I think he's a hometown boy, but no direct mention of MU.

Or this one:

"Every time I get it the tea taste better then the one I has!!"

See, he is specifically talking about Buzz!   

[GGGG]

1 in hand better than 2 in the Bush, and doubt we would find 2 players higher than his #28 ranking in Rivals, though possible we could find two better than his Scout rating, but I doubt by much.

I believe we will need some early commits to get recruits as high as him, so I'm still hoping for a commit soon.

We are not going to find two better than him.  He would fit what Buzz wants to do perfectly.

[BCHoopster]

After watching him play, what does he play?  Power forward, plays like one, to small, small forward
not a great shot, 2 guard, questionable, can he dunk, that is for sure, great athleticism, has that.  In 2 years you
have Gardner, Wilson, Taylor or Anderson, Blue or Mayo and not sure about the point.  If he is that
good where does he fit? If he is that big a game changer where does he play right away?  The point guard
in 2 years is really a major need.

[kmwtrucks]

He is a Big East Small forward, which is basically a wing.  He has 2 years of High school left to work on his outside shot. 

[brewcity77]

We are not going to find two better than him.  He would fit what Buzz wants to do perfectly.

Agreed. Honestly, if Burton can develop a mid-range jumper in the next two years, his athletic ability could have him in the top-20 by the time he gets to college. He'd be a freshman when Blue is a senior and Mayo is a junior. He'd be perfectly positioned to be a sub as a freshman and take off as a sophomore.

[PBRme]

Plus at his age he might not be done growing.

[GGGG]

After watching him play, what does he play?  Power forward, plays like one, to small, small forward
not a great shot, 2 guard, questionable, can he dunk, that is for sure, great athleticism, has that.  In 2 years you
have Gardner, Wilson, Taylor or Anderson, Blue or Mayo and not sure about the point.  If he is that
good where does he fit? If he is that big a game changer where does he play right away?  The point guard
in 2 years is really a major need.

He is about to be a junior in high school.  Seriously, he has plenty of time to work on certain aspects of his game.  At this point in their careers, you could nitpick any high school player.

[GoldenWarrior]

I like this kid's shot blocking ability.  To have a 2/3 type wing be able to get up and down the court and get a hand in the face and on the ball of shots is a great thing and not typically something that can be taught too easily.

[BCHoopster]

He is about to be a junior in high school.  Seriously, he has plenty of time to work on certain aspects of his game.  At this point in their careers, you could nitpick any high school player.

No question about that.  When I first saw Jerone Maymon as a junior and Vander Blue as a junior, I said Wow what talented players are these kids.  Nice
to have them at MU.  Well JM did not pan out and Vander, not sure about.  Looked better as a junior in high school then he does right now.  So in saying
that, lets see what happpens to Burton.  I like players that already have a true position, particularly power players, it is not so easy to go to the basket
when you are undersized in the Big East.  The kid definitely right now has tons of talent, does he have the heart, that inner drive.

[Canadian Dimes]

I remember when Kris Dunn said he really wanted to go to Marquette. And that was only six months ago.

crap can happen at any time in this foolish business.

Numerous things i have read have said we did not really pursue Dunn, additionally i think everything i read stated we never offered the kid. 
Some people seem to be all disappointed we did not get Dunn who has a 95 rating at ESPN, they seem to forget that a few months ago we got a verbal from PG TJ TAylor who is a 94 ranking. 

It seems between JR., Derrick, and TJ, buzz feels he is all set at the PG for this recruiting class.

So can you "lose" something you apparently never wanted??

[JWags85]

We have a top 50, maybe top 30 recruit posting positive things about Milwaukee after a visit to Marquette and people are criticizing his grammar and then complaining he might not be playing the right position?  Good lord people.

[Benny B]

No question about that.  When I first saw Jerone Maymon as a junior and Vander Blue as a junior, I said Wow what talented players are these kids.  Nice
to have them at MU.  Well JM did not pan out and Vander, not sure about.  Looked better as a junior in high school then he does right now.  So in saying
that, lets see what happpens to Burton.  I like players that already have a true position, particularly power players, it is not so easy to go to the basket
when you are undersized in the Big East.  The kid definitely right now has tons of talent, does he have the heart, that inner drive.

I suppose it depends on how you define "panned out" -- to me, that means ending your eligibility at MU at a level at or better than what was initially expected.  By that measure, I looked at recruiting at MU over the past ten years:

# of 4-stars recruited: 10
# that panned out: 5 - Diener, Dominic, Jerel, Wes, Lazar
Who didn't: 3 - Mason, Maymon, Williams
Still working: 2 - Junior, Jamail

So somewhere between 50-70% of MU's four-stars have panned out. At least 30% haven't.  I'm no recruiting guru, but I'd say that even the low end of that range is pretty darn good.  Additionally:

# of 3-stars recruited: 19
# of 3-stars that played (or most likely will play) in the NBA: 4 -- Novak, DJO, Crowder, & Gardner (someone else called that last one, not me).

And I would be remiss if I didn't mention the "nobodies" MU recruited who ended up going in the 1st round: JFB & some guy who goes by the name of D-Wade.

Moral of the story: Nobody knows who is going to be good, who is going to be great, and who is going to fizzle.  Recruit rankings are a good guideline, but they're not foolproof.  If you have a recruit that you believe fits your system and he's ready to commit, you sign him... regardless of his "score" or "rank."

Or if you want to focus on rankings, then the only way you pass on Deonte is if you have pending verbals from a couple of five-stars on the way.

[dw3dw3dw3]

This video shows a few pull-ups which look fairly smooth. Definitely not a catch and shoot guy, but neither was DWade.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UqOuZSyVsO0&feature=share

[brewcity77]

# of 3-stars recruited: 19
# of 3-stars that played (or most likely will play) in the NBA: 4 -- Novak, DJO, Crowder, & Gardner (someone else called that last one, not me).

And I would be remiss if I didn't mention the "nobodies" MU recruited who ended up going in the 1st round: JFB & some guy who goes by the name of D-Wade.

Just a couple notes...

Novak was a 4-star and top-100 prospect: http://recruiting.scout.com/a.z?s=73&p=8&c=1&nid=10264

I'm also pretty sure Wade was a 3-star, but overlooked by most because he was Prop 48.

Don't get me wrong, we've done a great job of getting guys to the league, but most of them were pretty well regarded coming into Marquette.

[wadesworld]

This video shows a few pull-ups which look fairly smooth. Definitely not a catch and shoot guy, but neither was DWade.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UqOuZSyVsO0&feature=share

I really don't see much in terms of comparisons between Burton and Maymon coming out of high school, besides being lefty and ranked pretty closely in the recruiting rankings (Burton is somewhat higher I believe).  Burton is a much, much more explosive athlete than Maymon was (and still is).  Maymon overpowered people down low for the most part and just had a nice touch down low.  He never really finished above the rim.  Burton is constantly finishing above the rim with a ton of explosiveness.  I know hindsight is always 20/20 and it's easy to now say Maymon was just bigger and stronger in high school but didn't have the athleticism to get it done at the next level (which who knows, maybe he still will get it done), but they play pretty different games than each other.  I'm also assuming that Burton plays better competition at Brewester Academy than Maymon did at Madison Memorial.  I don't know anything about Brewester, but I would assume with it being a prep school that they play much tougher competition than the WIAA has to offer.

[TedBaxter]

I don't know anything about Brewster, but I would assume with it being a prep school that they play much tougher competition than the WIAA has to offer.

Yes, the teams they play in the NEPSAC (Northeast Prep School Athletic Conference) have better talent than most high school teams.  I forget the actual number, but Brewster alone had at least 7 or 8 high major players on it's roster last year, including signees at Kansas, Pittsburgh, Rutgers, Villanova and St. John's and underclassman Deonte Burton and Mitch McGary.  

Notre Dame Prep, Todd Mayo's school, is not in that conference, although they typically play games against Brewster, New Hampton and others and I think that school had 8 or 9 D1 signees last year.

[wadesworld]

Yes, the teams they play in the NEPSAC (Northeast Prep School Athletic Conference) have better talent than most high school teams.  I forget the actual number, but Brewster alone had at least 7 or 8 high major players on it's roster last year, including signees at Kansas, Pittsburgh, Rutgers, Villanova and St. John's and underclassman Deonte Burton and Mitch McGary.  

Notre Dame Prep, Todd Mayo's school, is not in that conference, although they typically play games against Brewster, New Hampton and others and I think that school had 8 or 9 D1 signees last year.

Thanks for the info.  Sounds like a ridiculously stacked team.  I would imagine each of those players improve a ton just in practice.  Did not know Burton and McGary were on the same team.  It would be nice if we could get Burton to commit early and then reignite McGary's interest in us.

[Canned Goods n Ammo]

I really don't see much in terms of comparisons between Burton and Maymon coming out of high school, besides being lefty and ranked pretty closely in the recruiting rankings (Burton is somewhat higher I believe).  Burton is a much, much more explosive athlete than Maymon was (and still is).  Maymon overpowered people down low for the most part and just had a nice touch down low.  He never really finished above the rim.  Burton is constantly finishing above the rim with a ton of explosiveness.  I know hindsight is always 20/20 and it's easy to now say Maymon was just bigger and stronger in high school but didn't have the athleticism to get it done at the next level (which who knows, maybe he still will get it done), but they play pretty different games than each other.  I'm also assuming that Burton plays better competition at Brewester Academy than Maymon did at Madison Memorial.  I don't know anything about Brewester, but I would assume with it being a prep school that they play much tougher competition than the WIAA has to offer.

Not to get off topic, but am I the only one who still thinks Maymon could be a good college player?

I know his game isn't explosive, but I thought it was pretty well rounded, and he has good size/strength for a college ballplayer.

I think it comes down to if he puts in the time and effort to get it done.

[dw3dw3dw3]

If you compare him to your profile pic, I'd agree that he has a chance to be better. Does he have 2 or 3 years left? He might not get recruited over now that Pearl is gone, so that will help his cause. If he can't cut it this year, he should get down in the Horizon as soon as possible.

[Abode4life]

I think it comes down to if he puts in the time and effort to get it done.

That is a big "if"...

[GGGG]

When I saw Maymon play his last game in a MU uniform in Madison, I thought he played very well defensively.  He was matched against Leuer and did a very good job.  Offensively his game needed some work.

I mean, isn't he really just an earlier version of Davante???  A little better defensively...a little worse offensively?

[Dr. Blackheart]

JMay in the mix for a starting job...

http://www.thesportsbank.net/college-bball/64-tennessee-volunteers-college-basketball-111-in-111/

[ringout]

JMay in the mix for a starting job...

http://www.thesportsbank.net/college-bball/64-tennessee-volunteers-college-basketball-111-in-111/

I hope JMay puts the old man aside and works his tail off to get the starting spot.