Ray Lee close to committing?

[GoMarquette32]

Sounds like us and ucf are recruiting him the hardest. I wonder how good he is compared to dunn.

[brewcity77]

Lee is a borderline 3-4 star player, sounds like he has a similar game to Reggie Smith from what I've read. Dunn, on the other hand, seems to me to be an elite point guard. Just my opinion, but he's soared from outside the top-100 to the top-50 to the top-30 in the past few months. He seems like a guy just realizing how good he is.

I think Lee would be a very nice concession if we didn't get Dunn, but right now, Dunn definitely looks like the better get.

[GGGG]

Well, he claims that MU and UCF are pushing the hardest.  This leads me to believe that Buzz thinks Dunn is no longer an option.

[TedBaxter]

Pass.

[GGGG]

If Buzz wants him, he knows more than any of us do Ted....

[TedBaxter]

If Buzz wants him, he knows more than any of us do Ted....

Yes, and there's more to college basketball than lacing them up. 

[brewcity77]

Well, he claims that MU and UCF are pushing the hardest.  This leads me to believe that Buzz thinks Dunn is no longer an option.

Not necessarily. Buzz may just really want a point in this class, so he's all in for Dunn and also all in for Lee if that falls through. I'm guessing most of the contact is coming in the form of short phone calls...Buzz and his assistants probably make many phone calls per day, Lee's perception of how hard we're pushing doesn't necessarily reflect how hard we're pushing for Dunn.

[GoMarquette32]

How much of a chance do we realistically have with dunn? , I've been trying to figure that out for some time.

[brewcity77]

How much of a chance do we realistically have with dunn? , I've been trying to figure that out for some time.

It depends on who you ask. Scout experts Evan Daniels and Brian Snow think we're in the race but that Louisville and UConn are in the lead. However, I've heard that Dunn doesn't get along well with UConn recruit Omar Calhoun and may not want to play with him. According to Rivals writer Eric Bossi, Marquette is the favorite and everyone in Las Vegas felt we were the team to beat for Dunn's signature. That was maybe 2 weeks ago. Dunn doesn't have a Twitter account and it sounds like he may be content to take his time, so it's tough to get a good read on this one.

[GoMarquette32]

I would really hate forhim to go to louisville.

[mug644]

Lee is a borderline 3-4 star player, sounds like he has a similar game to Reggie Smith from what I've read. Dunn, on the other hand, seems to me to be an elite point guard. Just my opinion, but he's soared from outside the top-100 to the top-50 to the top-30 in the past few months. He seems like a guy just realizing how good he is.

I think Lee would be a very nice concession if we didn't get Dunn, but right now, Dunn definitely looks like the better get.

The Brett Roseboro story leads me to be wary about guys who "explode" and soar up the rankings. Doesn't mean Dunn would be like Roseboro, but the simple fact that he has climb so much so quickly doesn't really mean all that much.

[brewcity77]

The Brett Roseboro story leads me to be wary about guys who "explode" and soar up the rankings. Doesn't mean Lee would be like Roseboro, but the simple fact that he has climb so much so quickly doesn't really mean all that much.

That's Dunn, not Lee. And Dunn is different from Roseboro in my opinion because he's been doing it against all the best. The general consensus is that he's the best point guard in the class. And he has scoring chops to boot. He's been in Andre Drummond's shadow, which is why he wasn't as highly rated. But since he's realized a bit how good he actually is, he's taken off. Totally different than the Beast.

[mug644]

That's Dunn, not Lee. And Dunn is different from Roseboro in my opinion because he's been doing it against all the best. The general consensus is that he's the best point guard in the class. And he has scoring chops to boot. He's been in Andre Drummond's shadow, which is why he wasn't as highly rated. But since he's realized a bit how good he actually is, he's taken off. Totally different than the Beast.

Right. I meant Dunn and have made the correction in my post. Fair point about the competition level, though my wariness about fast climbers remains. Still, I hope we get him and I hope he succeeds for us.

[GoMarquette32]

And whats the word ok cleare? Any interest from him?

[brewcity77]

And whats the word ok cleare? Any interest from him?

We're in his final seven.

[MUMac]

The Brett Roseboro story leads me to be wary about guys who "explode" and soar up the rankings. Doesn't mean Dunn would be like Roseboro, but the simple fact that he has climb so much so quickly doesn't really mean all that much.

Many differences between the two.  Dunn has done it consistently.  While he "skyrocketed", he was already highly thought of (top 100 guy) and considered.  Roseboro shot up based on one tournament - and did not jump into the top 100.  Dunn is also a much better athlete.

Further, MU has been on Dunn for a very long time. 

Roseboro is not the appropo comparison, IMHO.

[GGGG]

Yes, and there's more to college basketball than lacing them up. 

I'm not sure what you mean by this.  Do you have concerns about Lee off the basketball court?

[TedBaxter]

No concerns and I shouldn't have said pass.  The coaches see the players, talk to their coaches and hopefully get to know these players well enough to feel they are a fit and that includes every player they scout and offer. 

If Lee is the guy they want, then he's the one they want. If it was me, I'd rather look inside for a 4/5, but I'm not the coach.

[GGGG]

OK Ted....fair enough.  Thanks for the reply.

[Lennys Tap]

The Brett Roseboro story leads me to be wary about guys who "explode" and soar up the rankings. Doesn't mean Dunn would be like Roseboro, but the simple fact that he has climb so much so quickly doesn't really mean all that much.

Dwyane Wade "exploded" in Bob Gibbon's rankings (unranked to #55 with a bullet) and he worked out ok. Roseboro never really soared up the rankings. He had a couple of good showings in AAU tourneys and was 6'9'', but never sniffed the top 100.

[Boone]

I'm with Ted. As the roster stands now, we'll only have 3 4's or 5's for 2012-13: Otule, Gardner and Taylor (Wilson's too much of a perimeter player to be considered a 4). Depth up front is already an issue this season and I don't want it to be an ongoing concern.

[bilsu]

I really expect us to oversign. I think one or two players will transfer out after this season, because they will not envision seeing the playing time they want in the future.

[Canadian Dimes]

Right. I meant Dunn and have made the correction in my post. Fair point about the competition level, though my wariness about fast climbers remains. Still, I hope we get him and I hope he succeeds for us.

Dunn also led his team to the Conn. state championship and was named MVP. Dunn was outside the top 100 but still a 3 star type player which at the end of the day is really really good.   Roseboro was top 500, a 1 star and his team was sub .500 if i recall in small division basketball... huge differences

[GGGG]

I really expect us to oversign. I think one or two players will transfer out after this season, because they will not envision seeing the playing time they want in the future.

I hope we get a big like Cleare or Auguste...and a point like Dunn or Lee.  And then see what transpires at the end of the season.  I agree with you that I belive there will be a transfer simply based on history.

[LON]

Dunn also led his team to the Conn. state championship and was named MVP. Dunn was outside the top 100 but still a 3 star type player which at the end of the day is really really good.   Roseboro was top 500, a 1 star and his team was sub .500 if i recall in small division basketball... huge differences

But he's a beast.