My Top 10 Marquette Warriors List

[MUMac]

No Jerel?  All time point leader.

I waivered with he, Dom and Wes.  They may be in the honorable mention aread.  Jerel was not just the all time point leader, but also all time in games played.  Had some of the older players been able to play 4 years and/or have a 3 point line, I doubt he would be the all time point leader.

He was a very good player - especially for MU.  I just don't see him in the top 10.

Just my opinion.

[KenoshaWarrior]

Is this a list of favorite players or best players?

[Lennys Tap]

No Jerel?  All time point leader.

Heart of a lion, a fearless player. Also too often out of control, he could be a turnover machine. The type of player Chicos would call "low Basketball IQ".

[Earl Tatum]

At least Houwarrior had Terry Rand on the list. He could play today. Also a name Ron Dibelius (Guard) Great shot but only HM.

[LA]

My guess Wes is pretty high on a lot of lists because of his recent success story in the NBA going from undrafted to being like what the second highest paid player in his draft class behind Blake Griffin. I think his career in the NBA just proves how good of a player he could've been at MU his first 3 years prior to his breakout senior campaign. I think just based on pure production in college McNeal has to be rated ahead of Matthews despite the fact Matthews is and was the more talented/polished player. I remember McNeal really improving his stroke from beyond the arc in his junior and senior years. Too bad James couldn't figure his shot out because if he had an average jump shot MU could've been Final Four good. Just thought I would add those two tidbits.

Agree with just about everything you said and yes D James could have used some work on his shot but MU WAS final four good. Until D James went down we were a top 10 team and really hot. With D James actually committed to playing PG (and a stud on the ball defender as well) and Wes, Jerel, and Lazar scoring in bunches; we could have done something special.

[MikeyT42]

I'm a guard guy....

1. Travis Diener, heart and soul of team. He also threw 88 mph in high school. (Can someone confirm this? I've heard this rumor a few times)
2. Brian Wardle, the guy carried the whole team.
3. Rob Logtermann. Knock Down Shooter
4. Aaron Hutchins Watching him grow from frosh year - senior year was a joy.
5. John Cliff. Still feel for him when he missed the shot @ Minnesota to take the team to the NIT final four.
6. John Polonowski
7. Jerel McNeal
8. Ronny Eford --- Mr. Everything
9. Steve Novak
10. Cordell Henry

[MUfan12]

Gonna go with my 10 favorite players to watch, that I have seen in person-

1. Dwyane Wade
2. Aaron Hutchins
3. Tony Miller
4. Travis Diener
5. Lazar Hayward
6. Steve Novak
7. Tony Smith
8. Roney Eford
9. Dominic James
10. Brian Wardle

Honorable Mentions- Jimmy Butler, Wesley Matthews, Jerel McNeal, Chris Crawford

[Dr. Blackheart]

Is this a list of favorite players or best players?

Whatever a poster wants.  I started this as my Warrior list...those favorites who exemplify that name to me. 

[PuertoRicanNightmare]

Lenny nails it, although I think many on this board are overstating their Wesley Matthews love based on the success he's had in the NBA. He was not a fabulous college player. He was a nice player. Frankly, I think Jimmy Butler had a better career at MU than Wesley.

I also think our recent Sweet 16 run has finally put the "Big Three" ("Three Amigos") in perspective. They were three very nice four year players who were overhyped and coddled from the moment they stepped on campus (Big East media day anybody?) and never won anything. Nice players, but not all time greats. 

[CTWarrior]

Lenny nails it...

Agree, but you can't have McIlvaine on your honorable mention list and not Damon Key, who was the far superior college player.  McIlvaine didn't even start the NCAA tournament game his junior year when we were facing Big Country Reeves and proved the decision to be correct by fouling out while not scoring while Key threw up a 20 and 8.

[MerrittsMustache]

I find it interesting how polarizing Travis Diener seems to be. Some have him at or near the top of their lists stating that he was the scrappy, heart and soul of the team. Others, like me, didn't even give him an "Honorable Mention."

[PuertoRicanNightmare]

Agree, but you can't have McIlvaine on your honorable mention list and not Damon Key, who was the far superior college player.  McIlvaine didn't even start the NCAA tournament game his junior year when we were facing Big Country Reeves and proved the decision to be correct by fouling out while not scoring while Key threw up a 20 and 8.

Oh...I agree with you. McIlvaine was a defensive force, but for goodness sakes Barro was a better offensive player. He was all thumbs. Key was a great player and I'll even throw Trevor Powell in there. I still think, until James came along (and I wasn't a fan of his) Powell was one of the best freshman contributors we've had here in a while.

[Lighthouse 84]

1.Butch Lee
2.Maurice Lucas
3.Dwyane Wade 
3.Bo Ellis
4.Dean Meminger
5.Tony Smith
6.George Thompson
7.Doc Rivers
8.Jerel McNeal
9.Lazar Hayward
10.Travis Diener
11.Don Smolinski

[jefffla01]

           1. Wade
           2. Mo Lucas
           3. George Thompson
           4. Butch Lee
           5. Bo Ellis
           6. Dean the Dream
           7. Jim Chones
           8. Doc Rivers
           9. Don Kojis
          10.Gary Brell

           I am a little older than most of you guys---61. I go back to around 1960 with the Warriors---eh Golden Eagles. I know Brell is a headscratcher---but he was the most competive feisty guy I remember.
I remember Mcguire gave him a couple packets of mustard when they played Detroit and he stuck them in
Dick Vitales hand during pre game intros.

     

[Lennys Tap]

Agree, but you can't have McIlvaine on your honorable mention list and not Damon Key, who was the far superior college player.  McIlvaine didn't even start the NCAA tournament game his junior year when we were facing Big Country Reeves and proved the decision to be correct by fouling out while not scoring while Key threw up a 20 and 8.

My bad on Key.

[HouWarrior]

          1. Wade
          2. Mo Lucas
          3. George Thompson
          4. Butch Lee
          5. Bo Ellis
          6. Dean the Dream
          7. Jim Chones
          8. Doc Rivers
          9. Don Kojis
         10.Gary Brell

          I am a little older than most of you guys---61. I go back to around 1960 with the Warriors---eh Golden Eagles. I know Brell is a headscratcher---but he was the most competive feisty guy I remember.
I remember Mcguire gave him a couple packets of mustard when they played Detroit and he stuck them in
Dick Vitales hand during pre game intros.

     

I thought about Gary Brell, too--a hometown kid from Pius. He lacked numbers, but was always around the ball, a good rebounder, and played good matchup defense.
Those today would be shocked by it, but during the national anthem,Gary used to obviously and purposely look down and away from the US flag, in protest of the vietnam war, at least once with a fist in the air, a la John Carlos.
As Gary played us in high school, and he was such a fun odball, he was one of my personal favs, too.

[4everwarriors]

          1. Wade
          2. Mo Lucas
          3. George Thompson
          4. Butch Lee
          5. Bo Ellis
          6. Dean the Dream
          7. Jim Chones
          8. Doc Rivers

Damn, you're old. Bet you remember Dal's too? BTW, it was Johnny Dee and Notre Dame on the mustard.
          9. Don Kojis
         10.Gary Brell

          I am a little older than most of you guys---61. I go back to around 1960 with the Warriors---eh Golden Eagles. I know Brell is a headscratcher---but he was the most competive feisty guy I remember.
I remember Mcguire gave him a couple packets of mustard when they played Detroit and he stuck them in
Dick Vitales hand during pre game intros.

     

[Sir Lawrence]

Lenny nails it, although I think many on this board are overstating their Wesley Matthews love based on the success he's had in the NBA. He was not a fabulous college player. He was a nice player. Frankly, I think Jimmy Butler had a better career at MU than Wesley.

I also think our recent Sweet 16 run has finally put the "Big Three" ("Three Amigos") in perspective. They were three very nice four year players who were overhyped and coddled from the moment they stepped on campus (Big East media day anybody?) and never won anything. Nice players, but not all time greats. 

Interesting.  I still think that had DJ not gotten hurt, the NCAA run that amigo senior year could have been special.  Seen 34 seasons of players (in person) at Marquette, and one of my strongest memories is seeing Dominic James dunk at Notre Dame his freshman year--it was simply an amazing feat.  DJ going down against U-Conn that senior year simply took the season away.  Of course, we'll never know.

My all time favorite Warrior is Butch Lee.  I'll wait on the other nine.

[brewcity77]

Interesting.  I still think that had DJ not gotten hurt, the NCAA run that amigo senior year could have been special.  Seen 34 seasons of players (in person) at Marquette, and one of my strongest memories is seeing Dominic James dunk at Notre Dame his freshman year--it was simply an amazing feat.  DJ going down against U-Conn that senior year simply took the season away.  Of course, we'll never know.

+1

I think we beat Louisville, UConn, and Syracuse with James healthy. We would have tied with Pitt for second in the conference, earned a double-bye, and gotten at least to the Big East semifinals. Go into the tourney with a 27-6 record, probably a 2 or 3 seed...it could have been a very different finish to the season if not for that injury. Ahh...what might have been.

[leever]

Damn, you're old. Bet you remember Dal's too?

4Ever----

Nothing could beat a big bag of Dal's burgers smothered in onions!

[4everwarriors]

Or a custard cone. Blue Deli and Suburbia weren't bad either. Always liked crossing the Avenue by using the tunnel around 11th or 12th street. Man, I could go on and on.

[Lennys Tap]

Damn, you're old. Bet you remember Dal's too?

4Ever----

Nothing could beat a big bag of Dal's burgers smothered in onions!

I'm so old I remember when Dal's was Milt's (my freshman year - 66-67). Burgers were 25c each but if you bought 4 to go they gave you a 5th for free. Given the horrible food at Schroeder and my generally impoverished state, my very survival was linked to finding four guys every night who had a quarter and a yen for a Milt's/Dal's fix.

[Skatastrophy]

I'm so old I remember back when Carter was president...

[leever]

I'm so old I remember when Dal's was Milt's (my freshman year - 66-67). Burgers were 25c each but if you bought 4 to go they gave you a 5th for free. Given the horrible food at Schroeder and my generally impoverished state, my very survival was linked to finding four guys every night who had a quarter and a yen for a Milt's/Dal's fix.

Exactly - 5 for a buck with no extra charge for the grease or onions!  Not sure if there was any actual meat involved, but it was a filling meal on a tight budget.  This is probably one case where "they don't make 'em like that anymore" - - and that's not a bad thing!

[HouWarrior]

I'm so old I remember back when Carter was president...

The four generation test of age..

Do you remember where you were when--
   -you heard about the Japs bombing Pearl Harbor? (my parents)
   -you heard President Kennedy was shot?  (me)
   -you heard John Lennon was shot? (some of y'all)
   -you heard Twin Towers were hit on 9/11? (almost everyone alive)