Wade and Heat

[Golden Avalanche]

No its not the timing, its the circumstance.  They weren't free agents that all conspired to sign together in one place.  Allen and KG were trades.  Not free agent signings.  And they did all arrive the same year ( not pierce, he has been with boston quite a while), just so you know.

Allen and Garnett forced their trades.

What's worse: holding an organization hostage or leaving an organization as a free agent?

[Lennys Tap]

No....can't think of one.  Why would I "hate" an athlete?

You're talking literal hate. Buckchuckler is speaking figuratively

[Skatastrophy]

You're talking literal hate. Buckchuckler is speaking figuratively

I literally hate lima beans.

[MU B2002]

I literally hate lima beans.

+ 1 million.

[KenoshaWarrior]

No its not the timing, its the circumstance.  They weren't free agents that all conspired to sign together in one place.  Allen and KG were trades.  Not free agent signings.  And they did all arrive the same year ( not pierce, he has been with boston quite a while), just so you know.

So what?  To really good players got together and said they want to join another good player to win some championships?  Sounds ok to me

[ChicosBailBonds]

I literally hate lima beans.

Is there someone on the planet that enjoys lima beans or brussel sprouts for that matter?

[Hards Alumni]

Is there someone on the planet that enjoys lima beans or brussel sprouts for that matter?

Not to be a contrarian, but I love both... haha.

[4everwarriors]

Is there someone on the planet that enjoys lima beans or brussel sprouts for that matter?

I'm down with brussel sprouts. 'Cept they give me gas.

[brewcity77]

Is there someone on the planet that enjoys lima beans or brussel sprouts for that matter?

I liked lima beans as a kid, haven't had them in years. Brussel sprouts, when made right, are fantastic. I'm a fan of the sprout.

[oldwarrior81]

Technically both Bosh and LeBron were traded to Miami and did not sign as free agents. 

The apples and oranges are looking a lot more alike.

Cleveland received four draft picks (2 #1's, 2 #2's) and Toronto receives the #5 overall pick this year (ironically their own they had traded to Miami in the Shawn Marion deal) and another future first round pick.

[🏀]

Ridiculous! I cannot believe this thread turned into another Lima/Sprouts pissing match!

[Skatastrophy]

Ridiculous! I cannot believe this thread turned into another Lima/Sprouts pissing match!

I don't know what's worse:  The people constantly arguing about beans and sprouts, or the people complaining about the arguing about beans and sprouts?!

I think you're all just anti-vegites.

[DJO's Pump Fake]

The little brother of the big 3 had his coming out party last night!

This is kind of how I envisioned this series to go, if Rose isn't on, Chicago is nothing.

It will be very hard for the Bulls to shut down all 3 of the Big 3.

Go Heat!

[🏀]

I don't know what's worse:  The people constantly arguing about beans and sprouts, or the people complaining about the arguing about beans and sprouts?!

I think you're all just anti-vegites.

You're making this board unreadable!

[Henry Sugar]

You're making this board unreadable!

Mods, can we create a dedicated thread or board for all the beans and sprouts conversations?

"garbanzo beans"

[Slim]

I'd take a quirky lima bean over a tanned sprout any day!

[MerrittsMustache]

The little brother of the big 3 had his coming out party last night!

This is kind of how I envisioned this series to go, if Rose isn't on, Chicago is nothing.

It will be very hard for the Bulls to shut down all 3 of the Big 3.

Go Heat!

The Bulls' biggest issue is that their scorers can't defend and their defenders can't score. They have significantly more depth than Miami but they've been unable to use that to their advantage.

Bosh is closer to being part of the "bunch of other guys" on the Heat than he is to being comparable to The Big 2.

[brewcity77]

The Bulls' biggest issue is that their scorers can't defend and their defenders can't score. They have significantly more depth than Miami but they've been unable to use that to their advantage.

Bosh is closer to being part of the "bunch of other guys" on the Heat than he is to being comparable to The Big 2.

I am starting to think this series will go the distance. Thibs has proven too good a coach this year for me to think the Heat will make it this easy for two more games. The media hype in this series has been more kneejerk than I remember in almost any other series. Game one, the Bulls dominate and everyone says "Game 2 will decide it". After game two, Miami has all the momentum, and now after they go up 2-1, the Bulls are finished. If the Bulls win game four, will that seal Miami's fate? You'd think so from the media coverage.

I can't see Rose having a third straight bad game, but the Bulls need to adjust to Miami. The injury to Asik could be a positive as it will give more minutes to Kurt Thomas, who can hit the short jumpers that no one on Chicago seems to be hitting right now. I could see him having an impact on game 4 similar to the impact Haslem had in game 2. Defensively, you won't take everything away, but I think more minutes for Thomas and Gibson would equal a Bulls win. How does Taj go 5/6 from the field and only get 12 minutes? Was Boozer putting up miss after miss (and in the process boosting his O-rebounding numbers) really that great for Thibs to watch?

20-22 minutes of Taj Gibson, 15 minutes of Thomas (and some hard fouls from him), a little less Boozer, and a little more Rose-like Rose and the Bulls will win game 4. And of course, that will spell the end for Miami. Definitely think this will go 7.

[jesmu84]

Definitely think this will go 7.

Not sure about it going 7. The Bulls never looked like, or to me felt like, they were ever in a position to win last night. Rose had serious issues with the double team, especially when it was Bosh and James. So, maybe stop using the pick and roll?

[ATL MU Warrior]

I am starting to think this series will go the distance. Thibs has proven too good a coach this year for me to think the Heat will make it this easy for two more games. The media hype in this series has been more kneejerk than I remember in almost any other series. Game one, the Bulls dominate and everyone says "Game 2 will decide it". After game two, Miami has all the momentum, and now after they go up 2-1, the Bulls are finished. If the Bulls win game four, will that seal Miami's fate? You'd think so from the media coverage.

I can't see Rose having a third straight bad game, but the Bulls need to adjust to Miami. The injury to Asik could be a positive as it will give more minutes to Kurt Thomas, who can hit the short jumpers that no one on Chicago seems to be hitting right now. I could see him having an impact on game 4 similar to the impact Haslem had in game 2. Defensively, you won't take everything away, but I think more minutes for Thomas and Gibson would equal a Bulls win. How does Taj go 5/6 from the field and only get 12 minutes? Was Boozer putting up miss after miss (and in the process boosting his O-rebounding numbers) really that great for Thibs to watch?

20-22 minutes of Taj Gibson, 15 minutes of Thomas (and some hard fouls from him), a little less Boozer, and a little more Rose-like Rose and the Bulls will win game 4. And of course, that will spell the end for Miami. Definitely think this will go 7.

IMO, the Bulls are in serious trouble if they are relying on Kurt Thomas for 15 minutes of anything.   

[brewcity77]

IMO, the Bulls are in serious trouble if they are relying on Kurt Thomas for 15 minutes of anything.

People would have said the same about Haslem coming off the bench in game 2. No one expected he would play a productive 23 minutes. Thomas can hit the close jumper and is a solid, physical defender. He's not flashy, but the things he does well are things the Bulls need right now. Don't mistake the non-sexy name for not being potentially effective.

[MU B2002]

How old is Kurt Thomas and when was the last time he logged major minutes?  Udonis would be a starter or 6 man for the Heat all season if healthy.  If you are taking min from Boozer, give them to Gibson.

[Golden Avalanche]

People would have said the same about Haslem coming off the bench in game 2. No one expected he would play a productive 23 minutes. Thomas can hit the close jumper and is a solid, physical defender. He's not flashy, but the things he does well are things the Bulls need right now. Don't mistake the non-sexy name for not being potentially effective.

That isn't true.

Haslem has been a cornerstone player for Miami in terms of knock down 15 footers, nearly 10 rebounds a game, and flat out hustle the last five seasons. Wade wouldn't play without him. Took less money to stay in Miami. They envisioned all along his role being one of production. He's a prime piece after the first three. He seems to have found his feet just at the right time.

The difference is Haslem is coming off an injury and needed time to feel a rythym whereas Kurt Thomas' best days were in the ABA. At this point in Thomas' career, they don't belong in the same conversation.

[ATL MU Warrior]

That isn't true.

Haslem has been a cornerstone player for Miami in terms of knock down 15 footers, nearly 10 rebounds a game, and flat out hustle the last five seasons. Wade wouldn't play without him. Took less money to stay in Miami. They envisioned all along his role being one of production. He's a prime piece after the first three. He seems to have found his feet just at the right time.

The difference is Haslem is coming off an injury and needed time to feel a rythym whereas Kurt Thomas' best days were in the ABA. At this point in Thomas' career, they don't belong in the same conversation.

Agree completely.  Well said. 

[RawdogDX]

Not sure about it going 7. The Bulls never looked like, or to me felt like, they were ever in a position to win last night. Rose had serious issues with the double team, especially when it was Bosh and James. So, maybe stop using the pick and roll?

It was a 4 point game for most of the 4th quarter and they were never in a position to win?  Nice cheese-colored glasses you have there.