Jereme Richmond Declaring for Draft

[wojosdojo]

Can somebody please explain to me why this guy thinks he is going to be able to make an NBA roster next year? This "stud" averaged just over 7.5ppg and 5 rebs., was suspended for sometime during this year and is nowhere near his best years.
First off, I only watched Illinois this year because I have a buddy playing there next year. Each time I watched Richmond he acted like he was the team captain. When things weren't going his way he pouting the rest of the game. All I know is if he was at Marquette Buzz would not let him play until he could change his attitude. Does Jereme think this is the best year to declare for the draft. I know he can come back and I think he will because he hasn't hired and agent yet, but I just don't understand how he thinks he has a future in the NBA, yet. The kid has a lot of upside but with the scare of the lock out is this the best time? I see a lot of names being called before Jereme, maybe I'm wrong and making a big deal out of nothing. I do know one thing however, JFB will be called before him, if not, shoot me.

http://www.sj-r.com/sports/x816845500/Richmond-leaving-Illinois-declaring-for-NBA-draft

[Jay Bee]

I do know one thing however, JFB will be called before him, if not, shoot me.

Put on your vest, brah.

[GGGG]

This wasn't likely Richmond's complete choice.  He had been suspended from the team a couple times this year, and word is wasn't going to class at all this semester.  Honestly, if he doesn't make an NBA roster, it's probably best that he goes to Europe or to the NBDL and grow up a little.

[MerrittsMustache]

This wasn't likely Richmond's complete choice.  He had been suspended from the team a couple times this year, and word is wasn't going to class at all this semester.  Honestly, if he doesn't make an NBA roster, it's probably best that he goes to Europe or to the NBDL and grow up a little.

Exactly. Richmond wasn't all that excited about playing at UofI next season and Weber was even less excited to have him back. With the way the NBA is run, he'll be drafted based on potential, possibly in the 1st Round. Look at Daniel Orton. He averaged 3.4ppg and 3.3 boards for UK but his potential was enough for Orlando to make him a 1st Round pick.

[PuertoRicanNightmare]

Exactly. Richmond wasn't all that excited about playing at UofI next season and Weber was even less excited to have him back. With the way the NBA is run, he'll be drafted based on potential, possibly in the 1st Round. Look at Daniel Orton. He averaged 3.4ppg and 3.3 boards for UK but his potential was enough for Orlando to make him a 1st Round pick.

Jesus, what a horrible comparison. Orton is almost 7 feet tall. Richmond is not going to be drafted.

[GGGG]

ESPN projected late first, early 2nd.  But honestly I think his "issues" might likely push him completely out of the draft.  Maybe a team will throw a second round pick at him and encourage him to play in Italy.

[🏀]

Jesus, what a horrible comparison. Orton is almost 7 feet tall. Richmond is not going to be drafted.

Richmond will be drafted, no doubt.

[MerrittsMustache]

Jesus, what a horrible comparison. Orton is almost 7 feet tall. Richmond is not going to be drafted.

The point I was making is that Orton was drafted based on potential not what he actually accomplished in college, which goes back to the initial poster saying about JR: "This 'stud' averaged just over 7.5ppg and 5 rebs."

Try to keep up.

[wojosdojo]

The point I was making is that Orton was drafted based on potential not what he actually accomplished in college

Therefore Vander should declare? He has great potential and hasn't accomplished much in college.

I see where you're going but I am confused on how Jereme is going to be better off not playing at school.

[MerrittsMustache]

Therefore Vander should declare? He has great potential and hasn't accomplished much in college.

I see where you're going but I am confused on how Jereme is going to be better off not playing at school.

When did I say that it's a good choice for a player to go pro based solely on potential? I said that players who don't accomplish much in college can, and do, get drafted based on potential and then I gave a recent example. What is so confusing?

Also, I'm not saying that Richmond would be better off not going to school. He could definitely use 1-2 years in school to improve and to refine his game. However, from what I understand, going back to school wasn't really an option for him. He didn't get along with his coach and he apparently hadn't been going to class. Since he has the ability to make money playing basketball right now, he's going to do that instead of waiting 2 years to do so by transferring to another school.

[Pakuni]

When did I say that it's a good choice for a player to go pro based solely on potential? I said that players who don't accomplish much in college can, and do, get drafted based on potential and then I gave a recent example. What is so confusing?

Also, I'm not saying that Richmond would be better off not going to school. He could definitely use 1-2 years in school to improve and to refine his game. However, from what I understand, going back to school wasn't really an option for him. He didn't get along with his coach and he apparently hadn't been going to class. Since he has the ability to make money playing basketball right now, he's going to do that instead of waiting 2 years to do so by transferring to another school.

You're correct.
I have it on decent authority that Richmond planned to be a one-and-done before he ever arrived at Chambana(I know, hardly insider knowledge, but still). Part of the friction between he and Weber was a result of Richomd and his people believing he wasn't being used properly to showcase his skills.
Hmmm ... where have MU fans heard that before?
Regardless, I think some team does take a flyer on him, probably in the second round, but maybe first if he wows scouts in pre-draft workouts.

[Coleman]

Mid to late 2nd round. But he will be drafted.

[MUBurrow]

When it comes to declaring, it seems that is is increasingly rare for a player to improve his draft stock by staying, unless his role on his college team changes dramatically. the NBA would rather have the extra year of 'potential' to grow a guy themselves, rather than entrust a college team to do it.

the exception are seniors who fly up draft boards a la Jimmer, etc. it seems like those guys increased stock is more a byproduct of their coaches viewing them as senior leaders, etc and giving them the rock enough for them to carry their teams and pump up their stats.

[wyzgy]

This wasn't likely Richmond's complete choice.  He had been suspended from the team a couple times this year, and word is wasn't going to class at all this semester.  Honestly, if he doesn't make an NBA roster, it's probably best that he goes to Europe or to the NBDL and grow up a little.

or to the crossbars motel.  if he makes it to draft day, he'll go un-drafted, but then be invited.  who would want to waste a 2nd rounder on this guy with a serious attitude.  needs his ass kicked a couple times to see how serious he is

[brewcity77]

Therefore Vander should declare? He has great potential and hasn't accomplished much in college.

If Vander declared, it wouldn't surprise me if he was drafted. He is much better off returning to school, but why wouldn't a deep team throw a second-round flier at a guy with a lot of talent?

He shouldn't declare, he won't declare, and he's better off not declaring, but guys have been drafted for accomplishing less.

[PuertoRicanNightmare]

If Vander declared, it wouldn't surprise me if he was drafted. He is much better off returning to school, but why wouldn't a deep team throw a second-round flier at a guy with a lot of talent?

Are you out of your mind? Seriously. What are you watching?

[MerrittsMustache]

Are you out of your mind? Seriously. What are you watching?

There's a reason why Vander appears alongside Jimmy and DJO on Chad Ford's NBA Draft Board. He's going to be an NBA player.

[APieperFan3]

There's a reason why Vander appears alongside Jimmy and DJO on Chad Ford's NBA Draft Board. He's going to be an NBA player.

In 3 years...

If Vander declared, it wouldn't surprise me if he was drafted. He is much better off returning to school, but why wouldn't a deep team throw a second-round flier at a guy with a lot of talent?

Your ONLY bad post so far this year Brew. But it's REALLY bad.

[MerrittsMustache]

In 3 years...


Your ONLY bad post so far this year Brew. But it's REALLY bad.

It's not uncommon for NBA teams to draft players because they have the potential to contribute in 3 years.

Brew's comment isn't as off-base as many people on here seem to believe. The NBA Draft is largely about potential and Blue is oozing with it.

[PuertoRicanNightmare]

Can somebody please post the YouTube clip of Blue in any game all season that would indicate that he's NBA material? Seriously. You guys are out of your minds.

Joe Chapman was better as a freshman than Blue. So was Karon Bradley. They were both big contributors to a Final Four run. Blue has a LOT of work to do. He clearly didn't deserve a fraction of the minutes he got.

[brewcity77]

It's not uncommon for NBA teams to draft players because they have the potential to contribute in 3 years.

Brew's comment isn't as off-base as many people on here seem to believe. The NBA Draft is largely about potential and Blue is oozing with it.

He was a standout defender on the gold medal winning U-18 team, and was quite the ball hawk. He has the athleticism to get into the lane, can throw it down, and has adequate size. He doesn't have a good jump shot, and needs a lot of work on both his ball control and distribution.

The reason VB would have a shot at getting drafted is because he the things he is good at, defending and athletic ability, are the things that are hardest to teach. Players can improve their jumper, look at Wade while at Marquette, or Rose over the summer of 2010. And passing he can learn as well.

An NBA team would see him as a guy that has the talent but not the polish. But with experience and coaching, there's no reason he couldn't become an NBA player. As I said, he shouldn't, won't, and is better off not declaring now, but it wouldn't be the first time a non-guaranteed contract went to a guy who wasn't remotely ready.

[Dr. Blackheart]

Can somebody please post the YouTube clip of Blue in any game all season that would indicate that he's NBA material? Seriously. You guys are out of your minds.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jz3JxwXshbE&playnext=1&list=PLAC9BDA6BAA9BBF91

[MerrittsMustache]

Can somebody please post the YouTube clip of Blue in any game all season that would indicate that he's NBA material? Seriously. You guys are out of your minds.

Joe Chapman was better as a freshman than Blue. So was Karon Bradley. They were both big contributors to a Final Four run. Blue has a LOT of work to do. He clearly didn't deserve a fraction of the minutes he got.

Sorry, but you just don't get it.

[PuertoRicanNightmare]

Richmond will be drafted, no doubt.

Care to comment?

[🏀]

Care to comment?

Nope, but that comment was made before he decided to not workout before the draft and declined to workout with some teams.