Buzz around Michigan is Tom Crean

[ChicosBailBonds]

Every year....Indiana, Virginia, Illinois, Kentucky, etc.  Now Michigan.

Why do these very high profile athletic departments not see what the "experts" here on the message boards see.  I just don't get it.




http://www.detnews.com/apps/pbcs.dll/article?AID=/20070317/UPDATE/703170444

[77ncaachamps]

How about this for speculation:

If Crean goes, who will take his place?

I'm not familiar with many assistants in NCAAs, but Mike Montgomery is a great NCAA coach (horrible NBA one).

[Big Papi]

How about this for speculation:

If Crean goes, who will take his place?

I'm not familiar with many assistants in NCAAs, but Mike Montgomery is a great NCAA coach (horrible NBA one).

I would want a coach that will not be looking for greener pastures and drop us at a moments notice.  Not that Montgomery is that type of person.  He did have great success at a university that stresses academics so he should be looked into if TC does leave.  I wouldn't mind taking a look at Tony Bennett either.  I know he is young and inexperienced but he was extremely successful this year and he is from the area.   

[MarquetteBallin]

How bout Chris Lowery from SIU or Lichlieter from Butler?

[chapman]

The article makes a good point.  Not only is Crean paid about 10 times Amaker's base salary, the school has also given Crean things he needs to be successful that cost a lot of money. 

Plus I know they don't release terms of buying out Crean's contract, but when it was extended last year through the 2016-17 season I'm guessing it made it even harder for another school to get him away from the program.  Those who want Crean's head after losing to MSU might also want to write the university a check for a few million dollars.  Buying out or making the decision to fire a mid-major coach making $300,000 for 3 more years is going to be a lot easier than a major conference coach making $1.5+ million for 10 more years.

[mufansince72]

It's not true until Woeful says itls true

[ChicosBailBonds]

Mr. Vegas over on Dodds board had some interesting commentary from a 1978 graduate


http://mbd.scout.com/mb.aspx?S=415#S=415&F=2850&T=258053&STM=2960095&FIX=1

[ChicosBailBonds]

How about this for speculation:

If Crean goes, who will take his place?

I'm not familiar with many assistants in NCAAs, but Mike Montgomery is a great NCAA coach (horrible NBA one).

Mike is a California guy and it would take an incredible job for him to leave California...a "Kentucky" type job.  I don't see Montgomery leaving California.

[NYWarrior]

If Crean goes, who will take his place?

Sean Miller.  Big East heritage, midwestern coach

[Detfan23]

I will be shocked if Michigan even talks with Tom Crean, just because a writer puts it in an article doesn't mean it is going to happen. 

It is more likely that Lowry, Beillen, Kruger, Licklitter, Heath, and some others are well ahead on the list of potential coaches.  Marquette fans, you have nothing to even be concerned with, end of discussion.

[Norm]

If you don't think Crean will consider Michigan, remember that Tom Crean's wife is Joanie Harbaugh, sister of Jim Harbaugh, one of the best QB's for the Michigan Wolverines. Crean's father-in-law, Jack Harabugh, was an assistant at Michigan who went on to be the head coach at Western Michigan. Crean is also from Mt. Pleasant, MI. So, there is a tie to U of M and a definite tie to the state of Michigan.

[Murffieus]

I don't think the standard should be that we are better off than we were under Dukiet, O'Neill, or Deane-----the standard should be-----how close are we to the achievements of the McGuire era?

[mviale]

crean doesnt want to play and compete against IZZO head on in the same state.

[ChicosBailBonds]

I will be shocked if Michigan even talks with Tom Crean, just because a writer puts it in an article doesn't mean it is going to happen. 

It is more likely that Lowry, Beillen, Kruger, Licklitter, Heath, and some others are well ahead on the list of potential coaches.  Marquette fans, you have nothing to even be concerned with, end of discussion.

I'm not concerned at all, I just find it funny that he is mentioned for so many premier jobs each and every year when there are so many people on this board and elsewhere that want to fire him.  Apparently these schools don't see what these experts do.   

[ChicosBailBonds]

I don't think the standard should be that we are better off than we were under Dukiet, O'Neill, or Deane-----the standard should be-----how close are we to the achievements of the McGuire era?

Murff...read the Tubby Smith article today on ESPN.com.   The Al McGuire era and eras like that are OVER....DONE.

Those days are long gone and will NEVER RETURN...EVER.

Less scholarships, more television (meaning everyone is on tv), parity galore, etc, etc.

If you need any examples, look at Kansas, Indiana, Kentucky, UCLA, UNC over the last 5 years.  IU and UCLA and UNC missed the tournament.  Kansas had loss 3 straight NCAA opening round games and Kentucky has two straight 8 seeds.

So comparing it to the Al McGuire era is silly, NO PROGRAM ANYWHERE does it anymore. Not Duke (one and done this year), not UCLA, not UNC, no one.

That is part of the problem, people are comparing things to 30 years ago...guess what, crime rates 30 years ago were better too.  Terrorism wasn't a factor, people stayed with one company their whole lives, etc, etc, etc.

Let's get real.  You have always been the standard bearer for the Apples to Apples argument...well here's your chance.  I'll give you a hint, comparing the program today to anything 30 years ago is not apples to apples.

[mviale]

That is part of the problem, people are comparing things to 30 years ago...guess what, crime rates 30 years ago were better too.  Terrorism wasn't a factor, people stayed with one company their whole lives, etc, etc, etc.

.  College Basketball started to change in the 80's with the intrusion of Big Business - Al saw the writing on the  wall.


I am not worried either as Crean has made the Marquette position one of the most attractive positions in college basketball.  He would be a fool to move on and the competition for a big east coaching vacancy would be fierce.

[augoman]

well said.

[PuertoRicanNightmare]

Every year....Indiana, Virginia, Illinois, Kentucky, etc.  Now Michigan.

Why do these very high profile athletic departments not see what the "experts" here on the message boards see.  I just don't get it.




http://www.detnews.com/apps/pbcs.dll/article?AID=/20070317/UPDATE/703170444

Chicos -- when and where was Crean mentioned for the Kentucky job? As for Illinois, we know that he did express interest and Illinois soured on him. Why continue to hold that up as an example of his "loyalty?"

Indiana didn't want him and I never heard him mentioned for the Viginia job. What are you talking about?

You keep talking about people on this board that want to "fire him." That's just not true, as far as I can tell. People have simply pointed out that, for all the accolades thrown his way, he crapped his pants more often than not.

[4everwarriors]

1.7 million reasons why Crean will choose not to go anywhere.

[ChicosBailBonds]

Every year....Indiana, Virginia, Illinois, Kentucky, etc.  Now Michigan.

Why do these very high profile athletic departments not see what the "experts" here on the message boards see.  I just don't get it.




http://www.detnews.com/apps/pbcs.dll/article?AID=/20070317/UPDATE/703170444

Chicos -- when and where was Crean mentioned for the Kentucky job? As for Illinois, we know that he did express interest and Illinois soured on him. Why continue to hold that up as an example of his "loyalty?"

Indiana didn't want him and I never heard him mentioned for the Viginia job. What are you talking about?

You keep talking about people on this board that want to "fire him." That's just not true, as far as I can tell. People have simply pointed out that, for all the accolades thrown his way, he crapped his pants more often than not.

PRN....Illinois wanted him and he said no.  IU was interested through intermediaries.  And yes, Virginia as well.  NC State as well. Kentucky he has been mentioned many times in the media over there, in fact I just posted an article 2 weeks ago on this.

And I'm sorry, how does a coach 'crap his pants' when it is the players that play.  Makes absolutely no sense.  Coaches draw up game plans, players execute or don't execute them.

As Wesley Matthews said so correctly in the postgame, "we didn't execute the gameplan".

[DJO's Pump Fake]

I hope he leaves and the door hits him in the a$$ on the way out

[ToddPacker]

Some of you anti-Crean types are unreal.  Get a freaking clue.  The man has complete reversed the trend of MU hoops. I was a student during the illustrious Deane era and remembered thinking that if I went to the game that night, I could take my homework and get something done while I watched a 40-38 type victory over St.Louis.  It was certainly quiet enough in the building.  Some of you McGuire-era relics are just so out of touch with the way things are nowadays, it makes me laugh.

[augoman]

Todd, I'm agreed "some of the anti-crean types are unreal", but you are the one who needs to get a clue.  Crean hasn't reversed the trend of MU hoops, it was the 'McGuire era relics' that fired up and overpaid to get him here, overpaid to keep him here, overpaid to provide the kind of facilities and travel arrangements most coaches can only dream about, overpaid to provide 'jobs' for his in-laws, and continue to feed the furnace out of a desire to better the program.  without the 'McGuire era relics', basketball puppies like you would be watching Bob Dukiet at work.

[ChicosBailBonds]

Augoman

And that is part of the problem...some of these people helping to pay the bills feel like they get to make the coaching decisions.

A coach cannot, must not, be beholden to donors in that sense.  He should report to the AD and the President.  Period.  It is fantastic, noble, heart warming, etc that alums have helped to pay the salary (a salary which is needed to keep a coach at a place like MU unless you want a repeat of the previous 30 years) but they cannot be making the decisions behind the scenes.

That kind of crap is what drove KO out, drove Majerus out.  Enough.

[only a warrior]

Majerus' pathetic record was what drove him out.  As a student during the Majerus' debacle, I am definitely a fan of TC.  Wish we could've had this kind of success while I was there.