What UNC fans are saying

[MountainCreekHouse]

Anyone have any good forums where UNC fans are talking about MU?
I'd like to see how the die hards are feeling about the matchup... whether they think its an easy win or are they nervous...

[mosarsour]

http://mbd.scout.com/mb.aspx?s=78&f=1410

[TallTitan34]

I was just looking around over there.  Some think the Heels will come ready to go an beat us by 20.  Others believe Marquette shouldn't be overlooked and it will be a close game.

UNC Board:
http://mbd.scout.com/mb.aspx?s=78&f=1410

Here is their prediction thread:
http://mbd.scout.com/mb.aspx?s=78&f=1410&t=7340236

[TallTitan34]

Here is a thread comparing us to some other teams:
http://mbd.scout.com/mb.aspx?s=78&f=1410&t=7343816

[NersEllenson]

Lots of confidence over there on their board...but most fans of teams always see their team as superior.  What surprised me was the margin of victory predicted..many going 10-20 point victory..

Many of their fans focus on our 14 losses..and that Lville beat us by 25 in Big East tourney - when we played our 3rd night in a row and Lville hadn't played in 7 days..

They might want to consider MU lost to Duke WITH KYRIE IRVING by 5...and was in the game throughout...whereas UNC got beat WITHOUT Irving..2 times...

I feel VERY GOOD about MU's chances to beat UNC.  MU (if they do lose) will lose by no more than 5..

[foreverwarriors]

This might've been my favorite post:

"A bunch of Juco guys with an interesting coach and strange fashion sense when it comes to uniforms."

[GGGG]

That is a pretty accurate description actually.

[MerrittsMustache]

Lots of confidence over there on their board...but most fans of teams always see their team as superior.  What surprised me was the margin of victory predicted..many going 10-20 point victory..

Many of their fans focus on our 14 losses..and that Lville beat us by 25 in Big East tourney - when we played our 3rd night in a row and Lville hadn't played in 7 days..

They might want to consider MU lost to Duke WITH KYRIE IRVING by 5...and was in the game throughout...whereas UNC got beat WITHOUT Irving..2 times...

I feel VERY GOOD about MU's chances to beat UNC.  MU (if they do lose) will lose by no more than 5..

If MU was a 2-seed playing an 11-seed who had 14 losses, we'd be pretty confident too 

I do agree with you that MU has a good chance to win this game. In fact, the only teams remaining that I really wouldn't give MU much of a chance against would be Ohio State and Kansas. Carolina is definitely beatable...but it sure won't be easy.

[DrDestiny911]

"This is a team that got blown out by Louisville in the Big East Tournament. I watched the game,I wonder if Gottilieb did? It wasn't like it was in Nov,Jan or Feb either. It was only a week ago. It is the same team that loss to South Florida and Seton Hall. If there is any agument for all those other bubble teams including those in the ACC who didn't make it, then it should be against Marquette other than Villanova. Marquette got in based on early wins in the Big East. The Big Least is overrated.

This is simple for UNC. They need to stop two players on Marquette. Two players have done the scoring all year. A 6'2 guard named Odum. You stop him on offense,you have done 90% of your work right there. The other guy is Gardner who is a 6'7 220 pound swing forward. He is their scorer inside. That is the other 10%. Those two have been carrying Marquette the whole year. As they go,Marquette goes. If Dexter can stop Washington's guard who I think is better,He certainly can stop Odum. Unlike Washington,Marquette doesnot have the size to compete with UNC in the paint. IF UNC gives Marquette due respect and don't take them lightly,they could take care of business quickly and move on. If they don't, they will just be setting the next opponent up for Marquette and hear a lot of criticism. They definitely will hear it if they lose to Marquette. They will especially hear it from the Big East if the ACC number two seed loses to the Big East number eleven seed. I think that is what Gottilieb would love to see,redemption."


^----- Ha some of them are just uninformed I realize that goes both ways but still Gardner has been 10% of the team and no mention of JFB? Anyways aside from this knuckle-head a lot of them seem to be fairly level-headed about the game and us.

Is it just me or is it surprising that over 30 years later they are still feeling the sting from 1977? Even though they are UN freaking C?

[M@RQUETTEW@RRIORS]

That is a pretty accurate description actually.

What is an accurate description?

[willie warrior]

While scanning their posts, I would not give them the compliment of "confidence". I would classify it as an elite smugness--just like the dookies.

Kick their ass, Warriors!!!!!

[MU_Iceman]

"This is a team that got blown out by Louisville in the Big East Tournament. I watched the game,I wonder if Gottilieb did? It wasn't like it was in Nov,Jan or Feb either. It was only a week ago. It is the same team that loss to South Florida and Seton Hall. If there is any agument for all those other bubble teams including those in the ACC who didn't make it, then it should be against Marquette other than Villanova. Marquette got in based on early wins in the Big East. The Big Least is overrated.

This is simple for UNC. They need to stop two players on Marquette. Two players have done the scoring all year. A 6'2 guard named Odum. You stop him on offense,you have done 90% of your work right there. The other guy is Gardner who is a 6'7 220 pound swing forward. He is their scorer inside. That is the other 10%. Those two have been carrying Marquette the whole year. As they go,Marquette goes. If Dexter can stop Washington's guard who I think is better,He certainly can stop Odum. Unlike Washington,Marquette doesnot have the size to compete with UNC in the paint. IF UNC gives Marquette due respect and don't take them lightly,they could take care of business quickly and move on. If they don't, they will just be setting the next opponent up for Marquette and hear a lot of criticism. They definitely will hear it if they lose to Marquette. They will especially hear it from the Big East if the ACC number two seed loses to the Big East number eleven seed. I think that is what Gottilieb would love to see,redemption."


^----- Ha some of them are just uninformed I realize that goes both ways but still Gardner has been 10% of the team and no mention of JFB? Anyways aside from this knuckle-head a lot of them seem to be fairly level-headed about the game and us.

Is it just me or is it surprising that over 30 years later they are still feeling the sting from 1977? Even though they are UN freaking C?

I hope Roy's scouting report says the exact same thing!

[MU B2002]

"This is a team that got blown out by Louisville in the Big East Tournament. I watched the game,I wonder if Gottilieb did? It wasn't like it was in Nov,Jan or Feb either. It was only a week ago. It is the same team that loss to South Florida and Seton Hall.

Damn, did I miss a loss to USF?

[MUMac]

"This is a team that got blown out by Louisville in the Big East Tournament. I watched the game,I wonder if Gottilieb did? It wasn't like it was in Nov,Jan or Feb either. It was only a week ago. It is the same team that loss to South Florida and Seton Hall. If there is any agument for all those other bubble teams including those in the ACC who didn't make it, then it should be against Marquette other than Villanova. Marquette got in based on early wins in the Big East. The Big Least is overrated.

This is simple for UNC. They need to stop two players on Marquette. Two players have done the scoring all year. A 6'2 guard named Odum. You stop him on offense,you have done 90% of your work right there. The other guy is Gardner who is a 6'7 220 pound swing forward. He is their scorer inside. That is the other 10%. Those two have been carrying Marquette the whole year. As they go,Marquette goes. If Dexter can stop Washington's guard who I think is better,He certainly can stop Odum. Unlike Washington,Marquette doesnot have the size to compete with UNC in the paint. IF UNC gives Marquette due respect and don't take them lightly,they could take care of business quickly and move on. If they don't, they will just be setting the next opponent up for Marquette and hear a lot of criticism. They definitely will hear it if they lose to Marquette. They will especially hear it from the Big East if the ACC number two seed loses to the Big East number eleven seed. I think that is what Gottilieb would love to see,redemption."


^----- Ha some of them are just uninformed I realize that goes both ways but still Gardner has been 10% of the team and no mention of JFB? Anyways aside from this knuckle-head a lot of them seem to be fairly level-headed about the game and us.

Is it just me or is it surprising that over 30 years later they are still feeling the sting from 1977? Even though they are UN freaking C?

Hmmm ... Here I thought we beat South Florida at there place when one of those two players he mentioned they needed to shut down, Jae Crowder, was hot from 3 point range.  Somebody better tell Gardner he has been messing up all year.  Swing forwards should not play like a 5.  I am disappointed Buzz hasn't done something about this.

It will be interesting, though, to watch them focus on Gardner when he is sitting.

A 2 man team?  I hadn't realized that.  Must be reading the box scores wrong when we have 4-5 guys in double figures.  Glad that the pointed out the errors in my way.

Can't wait to watch the UNC players with Odum's pump fake ...

[Patso2]

I think that Gardner needs to see the floor a lot in this game.

[Buzz Williams' Spillproof Chiclets Cup]

Damn, did I miss a loss to USF?

Yea, two years. Ago. Great research from that knucklehead.

[MUMBA]

The other guy is Gardner who is a 6'7 220 pound swing forward.

Did Ox lose 60 lbs and an inch of height?  Or has he been mixed up with Jimmy?  This dude is so confused. 

UNC is good. Real good.  But MU is capable of an upset.

[texaswarrior74]

You guys need to remember that the stuff you are reading is from their free boards and they have a national fan following that is like NDs's is for football......lots of people who never went to school there, never been to Chapel Hill or saw a game in person. This also contributes to posts that are often hyper sensational and really ill informed.

Their private (pay) board is not as full of hubris...most there are more cautiously confident. Many/most are UNC grads, many from LONG ago who remember 1977 very well.....it's a very sore spot for them.  They went to the Final Four with center Tom Lagarde out with a bad knee, Walter Davis had a broken finger on his shooting hand and Phil Ford had a hyper extended elbow.....they feel that if they were at full strength the results would have been far different....and they might have been. It's hard to be critical of them for still reeling about that loss.....basketball is religion there...seriously.

There is more respect for MU on that board and if someone makes a comment that goes too far they are usually reined back in by a more sensible poster.

The only thread I have seen that was truly negative was about a game played some years back at the Mecca where MU fans apparently threw coins at their players when they were on the free throw line hitting several of them....they also hit Dean Smith with something that was thrown from the crowd....it led to Dean refusing to schedule MU again. They felt that those fans were classless and, if true, I agree. Like I said, the real fans on that board have LONG memories.

You need to realize that many originally expected to be seeing Syracuse and thought that Syracuse was a more difficult match for them because of their zone but they've come to understand that this Syracuse team and zone is nothing like the one that gave them fits last year. Marquette sneaked up on them and the initial response was all about an 11 seed....that's all they knew...the more knowledgeable fans have been quick to tell them that MU was really not deserving of the 11 seed and that it might be a dogfight if they don't take MU seriously. Their one very legitimate concern is their lack of backup for Kendall Marshall against a physical team....that said he had one of his best games of the year at FSU which is very much like MU...breaking the all time UNC record for assists in an ACC game by a freshman....16 with 2 TOs....

There's actually a lot of positive things being said about Buzz and a number of people remember DJO from HS....and think he is a very good player and was a great "get" by MU.

People on this board need to remember that UNC is a very different team with Kendall Marshall as the starting point guard and has only lost twice since he took over...both times to dook....but they also soundly whipped dook at the game in Chapel Hill during that time. They are a young team (two freshmen, two sophomores and a junior that has never played a full season due to injuries) that is really just starting to understand who they really are....and what they are capable of.

I think it's going to be a great game to watch for any college BB fan....

[NersEllenson]

Texaswarrior74 - Did you grow up in NC or ever attend there?  I know you were very in the know that Tokoto was heading to UNC..and you definitely like the UNC program...which is all good..just curious.

For as young as Carolina is - MU is just as young in terms of D-1 experiences - plus our kids weren't perceived to have nearly the upside/skill set of the 7 McDonald's All American's on UNC.

No doubt many message board posters aren't hardcore basketball analysts..and I have no problem with a fan thinking their team will win..I was just surprised by the number of posters who predicted double digit victory.

Keep in mind UNC got beat by Duke 2 times WITHOUT Kyrie Irving and lost by 17 on a neutral court 2 weeks ago..

[NickelDimer]

I know this much; these UNC fans are gonna find how how strong a chin their Tar Heels have.

[NersEllenson]

I know this much; these UNC fans are gonna find how how strong a chin their Tar Heels have.

+1000...I can't remember the NFL player - maybe it was Lawrence Taylor or Ray Lewis in some pregame speech..saying something to the effect of:  "We're gonna come out here like a bunch of crazed dogs.."

We might be a little over-amped to start..but over the course of the game..Carolina is going to feel our heat..

[texaswarrior74]

Ners

Grew up in Ohio, have lived in Dallas for 31 years....went to MU from 70-74.

My son is a UNC grad so we spent a lot of time in Chapel Hill from 2004-2008....saw them win the 2005 NC while he was there and my son (who is now a third year med student) went back to Chapel Hill for their FF run in 09 so he's "been on Franklin St" two times after winning national championships....if you've never seen what it's like google it.....unbelievable site...as much fun as it was to run to the lake after big MU wins, it pales by comparison.

I'm also a BIG college BB fan and have always liked and respected UNC (when not playing MU) more than any other program ...I subscribe to several pay sites and have been a pay subscriber to UNCs site for years.

BTW, my son didn't go there because of me....he turned down Yale, Stanford, Princeton and a bunch of other places when he was nominated for and then was named a  Morehead Scholar at UNC.....

Funny story....before going to his Morehead interviews his school arranged for several faculty members to do a number of "mock interviews" to prepare him.....his last question was "who is Dean Smith?"....he had no idea and they laughingly told him he'd better know before going. When he went there he could have cared less about basketball.....he's died in the wool now....and has been back to Chapel Hill five times since graduating. It really is a very special place...he's probably going to apply to both UNC and Duke Med for his residency....he really loves the place and wants to live there.

[Les Nessman]

Although this response falls into the "smug" category, it would be so nice to actually be in a position like this when it came to recruiting.

"It's our choice who we recruit. We have no obligation to recruit anyone. The real question is ... whether any given player is potentially a better player than the players whom we recruit. We have certain standards we go by, e.g., grades, skills, ability. We have no obligation to recruit any specific player. There is no such thing as a right to be recruited by UNC! Of course, we want all excellent players to come to UNC, but the reality is that only the ones we choose may come (if they so choose as well). If we don't choose a certain player, it's simply because such player did not meet our standards. The bottom line is that we have very high standards (as do most successful basketball programs) and not every player can meet our standards.

So don't be upset with UNC if you are not extended an offer by the coaching staff, be upset with yourself because you do meet our certain standards."

[texaswarrior74]

tommy

They also have tougher academic standards than many schools do (btw...I'm NOT saying they are Stanford) and have a four year HS math requirement that knocks a lot of people out of contention.

[wojosdojo]

Damn, did I miss a loss to USF?

I swear I caught every game this year.