Let's see if MU can live up to Wisconsin's performance vs Belmont

[willie wampum]

For all the bitching that goes on about UW's style of play, MU should be so fortunate to have a style of play that leads to a rout in their first round game.

And MU desperately needs a Bruesewitz type guy who can get the big rebounds and hit a shot when needed.  For some reason, Crowder has a reputation as a guy who hustles when he has been largely invisible the last half of this season, but Bruesewitz deserves the reputation.  That guy busts his ass all the time.

Forget the switchable nonsense.  Give me traditional.  And a top-notch PG.

[Clam Crowder]

Kid's a ginger...honestly? Let's go recruit some gingers?! On St. Patty's day I will respect your wishes, but tomorrow I will strongly disagree

[avid1010]

Then become a Wisconsin fan, and stop posting dumb comments on this board.  UCONN did alright, maybe we should play more like them, but not like Louisville because they lost.  If your going to recommend MU play like WI based on Wisconsin's success in the NCAA tournament you are going to lose that argument every time.  Wisconsin hasn't exactly over-achieved in the tourney under Bo.

For all the bitching that goes on about UW's style of play, MU should be so fortunate to have a style of play that leads to a rout in their first round game.

And MU desperately needs a Bruesewitz type guy who can get the big rebounds and hit a shot when needed.  For some reason, Crowder has a reputation as a guy who hustles when he has been largely invisible the last half of this season, but Bruesewitz deserves the reputation.  That guy busts his ass all the time.

Forget the switchable nonsense.  Give me traditional.  And a top-notch PG.

[babytownfrolics]

What the f does the Wisconsin game have to do with ours?

[brewcity77]

[[Mu]EngiNerd]

quit touching yourself at night to bo ryan you hippie

[Clam Crowder]

Gingers don't play college basketball...

[willie wampum]

There's nothing wrong with wanting MU to be on a par with Wisconsin. 

And it's concerning how far MU is falling below their success level.

[Clam Crowder]

He is still a ginger..

[MUBalla23]

well #1. We arent falling behind them at all. They play in the big ten.
2. Our history blows there history away.
3. Compare past stats and we have more final fours, more championships, more tournament appearences, more elite eights, more wins, and overall better championship.
4.  Our alumni is so much better than theirs.

[willie wampum]

Then become a Wisconsin fan, and stop posting dumb comments on this board.  UCONN did alright, maybe we should play more like them, but not like Louisville because they lost.  If your going to recommend MU play like WI based on Wisconsin's success in the NCAA tournament you are going to lose that argument every time.  Wisconsin hasn't exactly over-achieved in the tourney under Bo.

Be more like UCONN?  

Sure, how about starting with taking Lamb, who wanted to come to MU.  Instead, MU has Vander "can't shoot" Blue, and another nondescript freshman in Jones.

I'd LOVE it if MU had freshmen like UCONN.

[MUMac]

First willie, your team played the 13th seed tonight, while ours plays the 6th seed.  I am guessing even you could notice the difference, but then again, maybe not.

You might have found it exciting to see 3 shot clock violations and multiple shots at the 35 second clock buzzer - after passes ad nauseum.  And that was from the winning team, your Badgers.  Frankly, it bores me to watch them play.  I enjoyed the movie Hoosiers, but I would hate to watch that team play today, well I just did with Wisconsin.

[Tugg Speedman]

There's nothing wrong with wanting MU to be on a par with Wisconsin. 

And it's concerning how far MU is falling below their success level.

You statement implies that Wisconsin is some middling team that we have fallen behind.

You could argue UNC has fallen behind them.

http://www.muscoop.com/index.php?topic=25077.0

Give the Badgers credit as their are maybe three or four teams in all of basketball that are better (Duke, Kansas, Pitt)

[willie wampum]

You statement implies that Wisconsin is some middling team that we have fallen behind.

You could argue UNC has fallen behind them.

http://www.muscoop.com/index.php?topic=25077.0

Give the Badgers credit as their are maybe three or four teams in all of basketball that are better (Duke, Kansas, Pitt)

I should have said far behind them.  The size of the gap in the two programs is what's troubling.

[[Mu]EngiNerd]

wisconsin is not in the class of UNC,DUKE or Kansas....

All of those teams have won national championships in the last 10 years....

they are not in the elite class... michigan state and uconn you can say are in the realm, but not wisconsin...

[JamilJaeJamailJrJuan]

6 straight NCAA tournaments is not falling behind expectations. Go post on the Badger board.

[Tugg Speedman]

I should have said far behind them.  The size of the gap in the two programs is what's troubling.

Your statement is as ridiculous as saying it is troubling that we are falling behind Duke.  Why do the borders of the state of Wisconsin matter?  They are not even in our conference.. Besides Vander, who on their roster seriously considered MU?  Who on our roster seriously considered UW?  Basketball wise they are as relevant to us as Duke.  They only matter to you because you live in Wisconsin.

As an MU fan, I look at UW and have reason to be encouraged.

Between 1947 and 1998 (51 years) they went to the NCAA exactly once.  23 times they finished 8, 9 or 10 in the B10.  They were arguably the worst program in the B10 for half a century.

Now they have been the NCAA 12 consecutive times.  They have been ranked in the top 10 5 of the last 8 years (KenPom).    

If a basketball backwater with lousy weather can become an elite team.  Why can't a team with a good reputation from Milwaukee?

[willie wampum]

6 straight NCAA tournaments is not falling behind expectations. Go post on the Badger board.

12-6, 11-7 and this year 9-9 in the BE.  That is not a good trend line.

[avid1010]

I vow to follow this rule anytime Willie posts, and I hope others will as well....not to mention I'll use that ignore button.

[Tugg Speedman]

wisconsin is not in the class of UNC,DUKE or Kansas....

All of those teams have won national championships in the last 10 years....

they are not in the elite class... michigan state and uconn you can say are in the realm, but not wisconsin...

Read this before you post again

http://www.muscoop.com/index.php?topic=25077.0

[[Mu]EngiNerd]

there is a distinct difference between those programs and wisconsin.

If they had won a national championship in the last 10 years with any of those teams i just mentioned then you can say that, but since they haven't you cannot compare them.

congrats they win a lot of games, but when it comes down to it how many championships do they have none... great teams take home the title so don't put them in the category of the supreme elite...

[willie wampum]

Your statement is as ridiculous as saying it is troubling that we are falling behind Duke.  Why do the borders of the state of Wisconsin matter?  They are not even in our conference.. Besides Vander, who on their roster seriously considered MU?  Who on our roster seriously considered UW?  Basketball wise they are as relevant to us as Duke.  They only matter to you because you live in Wisconsin.

As an MU fan, I look at UW and have reason to be encouraged.

Between 1947 and 1998 (51 years) they went to the NCAA exactly once.  23 times they finished 8, 9 or 10 in the B10.  They were arguably the worst program in the B10 for half a century.

Now they have been the NCAA 12 consecutive times.  They have been ranked in the top 10 5 of the last 8 years (KenPom).    

If a basketball backwater with lousy weather can become an elite team.  Why can't a team with a good reputation from Milwaukee?

UW is the main rival of MU.  It's annoying to be in their shadow.

And I think MU is going downhill next season.  I'm not sold on Blue and think he's a role player.  If he's a "miss" (and I think he is), that really sets MU back, as he was expected to be the big time recruit MU was looking for.  Wilson has supposedly been good in practice, but he's not a great shooter and wasn't good at all in his first year of college bball at Oregon.  I don't see where the scoring slack from losing Butler will come from.  And while I like Cadougan, his shot is weak, he can't go to his left and his ball handling needs improvement.

[jmayer1]

Read this before you post again

http://www.muscoop.com/index.php?topic=25077.0

You were wrong then and you're wrong now.  Just because UW has finished higher a few times in Ken Pom doesn't mean they are even close to UNC's level.  UNC has 2 national titles over that period while Duke and Kansas both have 1.  I don't think even the biggest UW homer wouldn't trade UW's last 10 years for any of those other programs'.

If you make the field goal posts very narrow (only use KenPom), then UW might make a few more extra points; but if you use standard size field goal posts those 3 programs are kicking 50 yard field goals regularly while UW struggles to make them from 30.

[[Mu]EngiNerd]

first use of the ignore button and it goes tooo....

Willy wampum

[brewcity77]

You statement implies that Wisconsin is some middling team that we have fallen behind.

You could argue UNC has fallen behind them.

http://www.muscoop.com/index.php?topic=25077.0

Give the Badgers credit as their are maybe three or four teams in all of basketball that are better (Duke, Kansas, Pitt)

And that argument is stupid. In the past 10 years, Wisconsin has one Elite 8 and two Sweet 16s. And you think you can compare that to North Carolina? Hell, they backed into that Elite 8 as a 6-seed, beating 11-seed Northern Iowa, 14-seed Bucknell, and 10-seed NC State.

Meanwhile, UNC has won 2 championships in the past 6 years. National championships. And there are far more than "maybe three or four teams" that are better.

• UNC has 2 titles, 3 Final Fours, and 4 Elite 8s in the past decade
  
• Duke has 2 titles, 1 Elite 8, and 5 Sweet 16s in the past decade
  
• Kansas has 1 title, 1 runner-up, 1 Final Four in the past decade
  
• UConn has 1 title, 2 Final Fours, and 2 Elite 8s in the past decade
  
• Syracuse has 1 title and 3 Sweet 16s in the past decade
  
• Michigan State has 1 runner-up, 3 Final Fours, and 1 Elite 8 in the past decade
  
• UCLA has 1 runner-up and 2 Final Fours in the past decade
  
• Texas has 1 Final Four, 2 Elite 8s, and 2 Sweet 16s in the past decade
  
• Louisville has 1 Final Four and 2 Elite 8s in the past decade
  
• Villanova has 1 Final Four, 1 Elite 8, and 2 Sweet 16s in the past decade
  
• Kentucky has 3 Elite 8s and 2 Sweet 16s in the past decade
  
• Florida has 2 titles in the past decade
  
• Butler has 1 runner-up and 2 Sweet 16s in the past decade
  
• Memphis has 1 runner-up, 2 Elite 8s, and 1 Sweet 16s in the past decade
  
• Georgetown has 1 Final Four and 2 Sweet 16s in the past decade
  
• Maryland has 1 title, 1 Final Four, and 1 Sweet 16 in the past decade
  
• Illinois has 1 runner-up, 1 Elite 8, and 2 Sweet 16s in the past decade
  
• West Virginia has 1 Final Four, 1 Elite 8, and 2 Sweet 16s in the past decade

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Listen, Wisconsin is a good program. But they aren't one of the top 5 in the nation. They aren't one of the top 10. They probably aren't even one of the top 15. They're in the 15-25 range. Good, but not even remotely elite. Can we please stop painting them like they're a step under Duke and on par with UNC? It's simply nonsense.