We Were In The Last 6 In

[TallTitan34]

Joke.  They used RPI too much.

[GGGG]

We lost 14 games.  I'm just glad we are in.

[MileHigh]

Scary thought...

[Tugg Speedman]

Did I read it correctly that we were the last "bye team" in?

[KenoshaWarrior]

Correct

[ChicosBailBonds]

Joke.  They used RPI too much.

Weird...I read so much here how it's been "greatly de-emphasized"    

This thread should really be locked...

[Tugg Speedman]

Correct

So if it was a 65 team field, we would have been the last at-large bid?  Or second to last?

[LastWarrior]

Did we have the most losses of the teams that made it in?

I'm glad to have a winnable first two games.  Got to go to work but we've got a better than a punchers chance at the Sweet 16.

[DavantesInferno]

Weird...I read so much here how it's been "greatly de-emphasized"    

This thread should really be locked...

Even though it may be de-emphasized, it's still pretty difficult to look past 14 losses.

[Silkk the Shaka]

I just saw the "Last 6 In" Graphic.  They didn't say we were the last 6 at large teams, they said we were the last 6 with a bye.  Also, they went strictly by the 11 seeds and the two 12's that got a bye.  The last 6 in are all of the 12 seeds.

Also, that's a terrible way of judging it, as there are moves up and down in seeding to accommodate regular season matcups.  This is not a determinative list, just a guess from the graphic department in my opinion.

[ChuckyChip]

I just saw the "Last 6 In" Graphic.  They didn't say we were the last 6 at large teams, they said we were the last 6 with a bye.  Also, they went strictly by the 11 seeds and the two 12's that got a bye.  The last 6 in are all of the 12 seeds.

Not correct.  The first four teams on the list were the four "play in" teams, then came MU.  We were the last non-bye team.

[IAmMarquette]

Not correct.  The first four teams on the list were the four "play in" teams, then came MU.  We were the last non-bye team.

This is correct.

[Mr. Nielsen]

What a joke having MU as an 11 seed. Why play Duke, Gonzaga, Vandy when MU can play 3 cupcakes atthe BC since SOS doesn't matter this season.

How is Michigan a 8 seed or Florida a 2 seed? 

[Silkk the Shaka]

Not correct.  The first four teams on the list were the four "play in" teams, then came MU.  We were the last non-bye team.

Are we talking about the same graphic?  I saw this on the post-selection show on ESPN, I missed the CBS graphic.

[ChuckyChip]

Are we talking about the same graphic?  I saw this on the post-selection show on ESPN, I missed the CBS graphic.

Both graphics were the same.  The whole concept of the "first four" is that the last four at large teams have to play on Tuesday and Wednesday.  So those teams were the lasr four in.  MU was next.

[NickelDimer]

Did we have the most losses of the teams that made it in?

I'm glad to have a winnable first two games.  Got to go to work but we've got a better than a punchers chance at the Sweet 16.

Nope 5 (or 6?) teams had 14 losses...we got the worst seed of them all.  Sorry, but that's some BS.

[79Warrior]

Joke.  They used RPI too much.

What is the joke? Our 14 losses? The lack of a quality non-conference win? Be happy we are in and hope we can win a game.

[brewcity77]

What a joke having MU as an 11 seed. Why play Duke, Gonzaga, Vandy when MU can play 3 cupcakes atthe BC since SOS doesn't matter this season.

How is Michigan a 8 seed or Florida a 2 seed? 

It does matter, and it matters a lot. It's what got us an 11 seed. Think of it like this. Say we play Duke and Centenary like we did. Duke's RPI is 4, Centenary's is 342.

So what's tougher, playing those two teams, or playing Memphis and Southern Methodist? My guess is Memphis and SMU are easier to get two wins, but look at the combined RPI. Memphis at 28, SMU at 206, an RPI average of 117, while the Duke/Centenary combo has an average of 173. As great as it is to play Duke, we would do a lot better by playing non-conference opponents who are in the 20-40 range of the RPI as our quality opponents and 150-225 range of the RPI as our cupcakes.

[ATL MU Warrior]

Watching Bracketology on ESPN2 and FWIW, ESPN has changed the title of this graphic to "Lowest Seeded at Large Teams".

Earlier in the evening it said "Last 6 In".

Wonder why the change?  Maybe because they have no idea who the last 6 teams in are? 

[PuertoRicanNightmare]

Jesus Christ! Who cares! We're going to need to beat somebody to make any noise. Might as well start as an 11, which is what George Mason was when they made the Final Four. We can beat X. I am not sure we can beat Syracuse again.

[TVDirector]

things that make me scratch my head:

George Mason, an 8?
Georgia, 10?
Michigan, 8?
Penn State, 10?
Butler, 8?
Old Dominion, 9?

MU, 11?

what kinda bubble was it anyway?

[Frenns Liquor Depot]

I am happy we are not an 8 or 9 and am in no way offended some "lesser" teams have the seed.  Especially in this soft field, avoiding 1's & 2's are a pleasure.  We can play against X and we have beat 'Cuse -- that's hope!

[Silkk the Shaka]

Watching Bracketology on ESPN2 and FWIW, ESPN has changed the title of this graphic to "Lowest Seeded at Large Teams".

Earlier in the evening it said "Last 6 In".

Wonder why the change?  Maybe because they have no idea who the last 6 teams in are? 

That's exactly what I saw, and what I took away from that graphic.  It had the two 12 seeds that aren't in the play-in and all four 11 seeds.  I think they were just guessing based on that info that we were the "last 6 to get a bye" when in reality there could have been a ton of shuffling to accommodate matchups.  I could be wrong though and there could be some official list of "last 6 in" that I missed.

[Silkk the Shaka]

Jesus Christ! Who cares! We're going to need to beat somebody to make any noise. Might as well start as an 11, which is what George Mason was when they made the Final Four. We can beat X. I am not sure we can beat Syracuse again.

Yes, I agree, we lucked out getting the 11 instead of the 8 or 9.  If that means we were "disrespected" (which I don't think it does) then I'm glad we got disrespected!  If anyone got screwed, it's Syracuse.  They have to play a conference team in the 2nd (new 3rd) round that already beat them in the regular season.  As a 3 seed!  That's not right.

[MUMac]

That's exactly what I saw, and what I took away from that graphic.  It had the two 12 seeds that aren't in the play-in and all four 11 seeds.  I think they were just guessing based on that info that we were the "last 6 to get a bye" when in reality there could have been a ton of shuffling to accommodate matchups.  I could be wrong though and there could be some official list of "last 6 in" that I missed.

Memphis, Richmond and Utah State were automatic qualifiers.  The last 4 in were the two play-in games.  One in the 12 seed and one in the 11.  I believe we were the top 11 seed, thus were the 7th lowest at large.