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Freezer

With Pat Knight getting fired from Texas Tech earlier today, what do you think the chances are that Buzz will go after that job getting back home? Could be a win win situation because I don't like the way MU's program is heading. MU is the highest funded program in the Big East and we are having troubles getting into the tournament. Enough of these JUCO transfers and let's get some 4 year talent. Look at PITT and ND, lots of seniors that have developed through that system (I know Hansbrough transferred in) but I think Buzz takes a hard look at this opening. Any thoughts?

jeffreyweee

If that post was both your first and last I wouldn't mind.

HoopsMalone


Mike Deane


4everwarriors

I could see him sniffin' around. The job was good enough for Bob Knight to bite.
"Give 'Em Hell, Al"

ChicosBailBonds

Buzz will stay as long at MU will have him.  Straight from Buzz's mouth, why would we believe anything else.


Personally, I think BCG gets the job

NCMUFan

Different circumstances with Bobby Knight.  I believe he was out of a job when he took it.  Huggy wanted into the BEAST when the WVU job opened up.

Freezer

Every Coach says they will be at their school for as long as they'll have them. Would not be surprised if he looks into it.

NYWarrior

Tony Benford is a more natural candidate than Buzz.  Benford played at Texas Tech (was very good) and is from nearby Hobbs, NM.   If TT doesn't want to take a risk on BCG -- maybe Tony gets a shot.

Now if Arkansas or Oklahoma opened up, who knows.

NCMUFan

I really hope Buzz stays, but... if we are put in a circumstance where we have to find a new I say look into someone with deep BEAST roots.  Someone who eats, breathes and sleeps BEAST.  Later with these p^ssies jumping to other conferences. 

Tugg Speedman

Are we going to do this everything time a D1 opening occurs in Texas or surrounding states (Arkansas)?

Maybe the mods should start a category called "Texas And Near Texas Job Openings" as their are a lot of programs down that way.

tower912

#11
Not just no, but hell no.  Coaches don't voluntarily move down the hierarchy.   
Luke 6:45   ...A good man produces goodness from the good in his heart; an evil man produces evil out of his store of evil.   Each man speaks from his heart's abundance...

It is better to be fearless and cheerful than cheerless and fearful.

ChicosBailBonds

Quote from: Freezer on March 07, 2011, 01:30:25 PM
Every Coach says they will be at their school for as long as they'll have them. Would not be surprised if he looks into it.

Of course, that's why it's silly that they (coaches) even say it....even sillier when fans actually believe it.

If he were to leave, it would be the 5th coach in the last 6 that didn't make it past 5 years....that is BRUTAL.

No stability....if this were to happen.  At some point, if it comes to being, MU might want to get a guy from the Midwest or with Midwest ties that actually wants to be there long term.

IF this happens....but I doubt Tech is where he'd go. 

brewcity77

First thought, I'm not sure TT is a better job than MU, though it is a good geographical fit for Buzz.

Second thought, I'd hate to see him bail on us before he even gets to see any of his freshmen become seniors.

Third thought, the idea that his recruiting philosophy is flawed because he had to bring in JUCOs to balance two empty classes that were left here for him is incredibly ignorant and not really fair to put on Buzz.

Fourth thought, if Buzz leaves, many of our players may follow suit. Regardless what you think of him, it's clear the team likes him and buys into him.

Last thought, if you want to see four-year players, wait for guys like Caddy, Otule, and Blue to become seniors. Unless you have another explanation how to create seniors out of thin air.

MU_Iceman

Quote from: brewcity77 on March 07, 2011, 01:59:33 PM
First thought, I'm not sure TT is a better job than MU, though it is a good geographical fit for Buzz.

Second thought, I'd hate to see him bail on us before he even gets to see any of his freshmen become seniors.

Third thought, the idea that his recruiting philosophy is flawed because he had to bring in JUCOs to balance two empty classes that were left here for him is incredibly ignorant and not really fair to put on Buzz.

Fourth thought, if Buzz leaves, many of our players may follow suit. Regardless what you think of him, it's clear the team likes him and buys into him.

Last thought, if you want to see four-year players, wait for guys like Caddy, Otule, and Blue to become seniors. Unless you have another explanation how to create seniors out of thin air.

+1  People seem to forget that MOST programs make runs in the tourney riding the backs of their third and fourth year players...typically, those guys aren't all that significant in their first two college seasons...kids need time to mature and develop; so how about we give it to them?

ChicosBailBonds

Quote from: brewcity77 on March 07, 2011, 01:59:33 PM

Third thought, the idea that his recruiting philosophy is flawed because he had to bring in JUCOs to balance two empty classes that were left here for him is incredibly ignorant and not really fair to put on Buzz.


Disagree that it's "ignorant".  There are many ways to skin the cat.  St. John's next year is adding mostly high school kids, despite having 10 seniors leave this year.  Now, some will argue that going that route you set yourself up for too much inexperience...that's a defensible argument.  So is going the route they (SJU) went. Let's not forget that our own freshmen a few years ago did a wonderful job playing major minutes, starting, etc and got us to the NCAA tournament.   

It seems that a number of folks here make this argument about filling and balancing the classes with JUCOS as if it was the ONLY solution....it's not the ONLY solution but is often presented here as if it was.  It simply isn't.  The quantity is the other question.  Is the right mix 70% JUCO and 30% HS...is it 50% each...is it 30% to 70%? 

My bigger concern about his recruiting philosophy is more on the types of players vs all the JUCOs.  PG, shooters seem to be not quite as important as switchables in the body frame he has described in the past. 

kmwtrucks

Texas Tech is probably behind even TCU now in the pecking order of Texas Basketball.   if Texas A&M opened up I might get worried.   MU has not had a great year.  But we had how many returning player's?  Butler, Dwight, DJO and Fulce?  Over 1/2 our team is new this year.  I was thinking the best we could do was 11 wins, so we ended up 2 below.  Its not like we were picked to win 14 Big East games and only won 9. 

Tugg Speedman

Quote from: kmwtrucks on March 07, 2011, 02:27:37 PM
Its not like we were picked to win 14 Big East games and only won 9. 

You mean like Nova?  Maybe Jay Wright should bail out of Philly after his legitimate failure this year.

willie warrior

Here we go again with the rumors flying. Buzz to Texas Tech, or Arkansas or the next opening that occurs. There are always a dozen or more when the season ends.

Here is a rumor you can book. Texas Tech rehires Bobby Knight. Then Indiana fires Crean and they hire Knight.
I thought you were dead. Willie lives rent free in Reekers mind. Rick Pitino: "You can either complain or adapt."

leever

Which Knight?

I hear Buzz is going to Rice (teal implied)

nyg

Billy Gillespie should be the #1 candidate.

lab_warrior

Quote from: Freezer on March 07, 2011, 01:18:56 PM
Any thoughts?

That it's been a while since I've seen a post completely based on ether-hallucination-induced, fantasy-land, Lionel Hutz-like conjecture?!?

brewcity77

Quote from: ChicosBailBonds on March 07, 2011, 02:16:10 PM
Disagree that it's "ignorant".  There are many ways to skin the cat.  St. John's next year is adding mostly high school kids, despite having 10 seniors leave this year.  Now, some will argue that going that route you set yourself up for too much inexperience...that's a defensible argument.  So is going the route they (SJU) went. Let's not forget that our own freshmen a few years ago did a wonderful job playing major minutes, starting, etc and got us to the NCAA tournament.   

It seems that a number of folks here make this argument about filling and balancing the classes with JUCOS as if it was the ONLY solution....it's not the ONLY solution but is often presented here as if it was.  It simply isn't.  The quantity is the other question.  Is the right mix 70% JUCO and 30% HS...is it 50% each...is it 30% to 70%? 

My bigger concern about his recruiting philosophy is more on the types of players vs all the JUCOs.  PG, shooters seem to be not quite as important as switchables in the body frame he has described in the past. 

I may have misspoken a bit in my phrasing, but what I meant to say was that for Buzz to have juniors and seniors on the roster this year, he had to recruit JUCO kids. You can't blame Buzz's recruiting philosophy for not having 4-year players at this point in time when his first recruiting class is in its sophomore year. I'm all for having more 4-year players on the roster, and more players in their third and fourth years in Buzz's system, but it's simply not possible to achieve that without arriving at the fourth and fifth years of Buzz's tenure. Barring the original poster having access to a time machine Buzz can borrow...

Dawson Rental

Quote from: NCMUFan on March 07, 2011, 01:28:07 PM
Different circumstances with Bobby Knight.  I believe he was out of a job when he took it.  Huggy wanted into the BEAST when the WVU job opened up.

Oh, and Huggy is a West Virginia alum who played basketball there.
You actually have a degree from Marquette?

Quote from: muguru
No...and after reading many many psosts from people on this board that do...I have to say I'm MUCH better off, if this is the type of "intelligence" a degree from MU gets you. It sure is on full display I will say that.

Dawson Rental

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Quote from: leever on March 07, 2011, 03:28:02 PM
Which Knight?

I hear Buzz is going to Rice (teal implied)

Duh, of course he is.  That's where his roots are!  That and the fact that the Pan American job isn't opening up anytime soon.
You actually have a degree from Marquette?

Quote from: muguru
No...and after reading many many psosts from people on this board that do...I have to say I'm MUCH better off, if this is the type of "intelligence" a degree from MU gets you. It sure is on full display I will say that.

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