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Ron Paul

No offense to Buzz, honestly I love Buzz.  But I'd take Jay.

Clam Crowder

Id take Buzz over Wright any friggin day of the week

Ron Paul

2 Sweet 16s, 1 Elite Eight, 1 Final Four in 9 years at Villanova and when he inherited 'Nova they weren't exactly a top program.  All I know is I hope we can say the same about Buzz after 9 seasons at MU.

wojosdojo

#4
I think Buzz can only get better year by year, that's promising.

On another note, I apologize to Doris, truly, but I just wanted to ask since were looking at rivals here, are most people on scoop over there too (or scout) or just one of the other. Also, from what it looks like scoop is much better than rivals. Thanks, jw.

77ncaachamps

#5
Oh Nova fans, be careful what you wish for...
And not about hiring Buzz.

Dominique Cheek has been a disappointment thus far, no?
SS Marquette

🏀

Quote from: 77ncaachamps on February 28, 2011, 11:40:00 PM
Oh Nova fans, be careful what you wish for...
And not about hiring Buzz.

Dominique Cheek has been a disappointment thus far, no?

They are one Keno Davis away from obscurity. Much like us.

NersEllenson

This just goes to show how IDIOTIC many fanbases are.  I get annoyed when I see this same kind of garbage about Buzz - yet Buzz doesn't have near the skins on the wall Jay Wright does - and yet you have NOVA fans calling for his head. 

Thankfully, MU hasn't been ripped with a 21 point defeat, where they were down 20 at the half.  The moral in all of this is that it just shows how difficult the Big East really is - nearly every team (other than Pitt and ND) have dealt with several rough stretches..
"I'm not sure Cadougan would fix the problems on this team. I'm not even convinced he would be better for this team than DeWil is."

BrewCity77, December 8, 2013

Tugg Speedman

Quote from: Ners on March 01, 2011, 08:59:02 AM
This just goes to show how IDIOTIC many fanbases are.  I get annoyed when I see this same kind of garbage about Buzz - yet Buzz doesn't have near the skins on the wall Jay Wright does - and yet you have NOVA fans calling for his head. 

Thankfully, MU hasn't been ripped with a 21 point defeat, where they were down 20 at the half.  The moral in all of this is that it just shows how difficult the Big East really is - nearly every team (other than Pitt and ND) have dealt with several rough stretches..

+ 1,000,000

We have no emotional ties to 'nova so we can see how utterly idiotic the nova fans are about their current struggles.

Yet when we read posts that are as equally stupid about MU, that poster thinks they are making an insightful comment.

Here's how it works around here .... any post using these words/phrases in the context of a reasoned analysis of this year's team is code that the poster has no idea what they are talking about:

* low basketball IQ
* half-time adjustments
* FT practice
* we need bigs
* heart
* use of time-outs
* I don't understand "paint touches"
* lost control of the team

pillardean

Quote from: AnotherMU84 on March 01, 2011, 09:54:55 AM
Here's how it works around here .... any post using these words/phrases in the context of a reasoned analysis of this year's team is code that the poster has no idea what they are talking about:

* half-time adjustments*

* use of time-outs

I believe Buzz, as well as all coaches, need to work on their game plans at halftime.

Sometimes the team comes out flat or not sure of themselves.  Part of that has to be on the coach.

Saying that, I love Buzz and hope he does not go anywhere, ever.  But I also understand he is young and new to his craft and still needs work on it that will come when confronted with new ideas on coaching, experience, etc.  To say that Buzz is infallible shows a lack of basketball understanding, and, in a way, downplays Buzz's capability as a coach and successes so far.
Marquette University, Spring '08

T-Bone

Quote from: marqptm on February 28, 2011, 11:44:49 PM
They are one Keno Davis away from obscurity. Much like us.

Frightening.  Very.  

Both schools do have a lot of support behind their programs, more so than Providence I think (don't know for certain).  So, I think it would take a bit more than one Keno.  But conceptually, it's horrifying.
I'm like a turtle, sometimes I get run over by a semi.

GGGG

Providence troubles lie a lot deeper than Keno.  The program was a mess when he took it over.  But he obviously isn't the one that is going to lead them back either.

ATWizJr

Very unflattering article in the ProJo today re: PC.


HoopsMalone

Quote from: AnotherMU84 on March 01, 2011, 09:54:55 AM

Here's how it works around here .... any post using these words/phrases in the context of a reasoned analysis of this year's team is code that the poster has no idea what they are talking about:

* low basketball IQ
* half-time adjustments
* FT practice
* we need bigs
* heart
* use of time-outs
* I don't understand "paint touches"
* lost control of the team


A little over broad there.  There are plenty of reasons to discuss those topics and part of the discussion should be critical. 

79Warrior

Quote from: Andrew Siciliano's Ear on February 28, 2011, 11:33:52 PM
2 Sweet 16s, 1 Elite Eight, 1 Final Four in 9 years at Villanova and when he inherited 'Nova they weren't exactly a top program.  All I know is I hope we can say the same about Buzz after 9 seasons at MU.

+1. Jay Wright has done a great job and he is a class act.

brewcity77

Quote from: AnotherMU84 on March 01, 2011, 09:54:55 AMHere's how it works around here .... any post using these words/phrases in the context of a reasoned analysis of this year's team is code that the poster has no idea what they are talking about:

* low basketball IQ
* half-time adjustments
* FT practice
* we need bigs
* heart
* use of time-outs
* I don't understand "paint touches"
* lost control of the team

So we can't talk about how well the team played, how the coaching staff and players adjusted to the game, recruiting, or game management? Basically, if you ever criticize any of the players or coaches, you have no idea what you are talking about?

I'm all for positivity, but come on, that's just inane.

Pakuni

Quote from: The Sultan of South Wayne on March 01, 2011, 10:22:32 AM
Providence troubles lie a lot deeper than Keno.  The program was a mess when he took it over.  But he obviously isn't the one that is going to lead them back either.

"Mess" is a bit strong. Keno inherited a team that returned all five starters, had a young Marshon Brooks coming off the bench and a pretty decent recruit named Jamine Peterson waiting in the wings (who Keno inexplicably decided not to play for a year ... a decision that likely cost him an NCAA bid).
Providence wasn't in great shape when Keno arrived, but it wasn't terrible either. It's become terrible under his stewardship, and much of their troubles can be directly attributed to him (i.e. questionable recruiting, inability or unwillingness to coach defense, bad roster decsions, poor relationships with players, etc.)
Seems to me MU made a pretty smart move to take a pass on Keno - much to the chagrin of some around here - after Crean left.

Golden Avalanche

Quote from: Andrew Siciliano's Ear on February 28, 2011, 11:33:52 PM
2 Sweet 16s, 1 Elite Eight, 1 Final Four in 9 years at Villanova and when he inherited 'Nova they weren't exactly a top program.  All I know is I hope we can say the same about Buzz after 9 seasons at MU.

But Nova wasn't exactly a bad program either. Lappas did some damage and had some NBA players in and out.

You might be seeing Wright 10 years ago in Buzz. There's a growing crew of Nova supporters who feel some stagnancy might be setting in. This is what happens when you don't run an offense and put all your faith in a lead guard to create -- when they can't create anymore, your team sucks.

brewcity77

Quote from: ATWizJr on March 01, 2011, 10:31:16 AMVery unflattering article in the ProJo today re: PC.

Unflattering and uneducated article. He calls us "offensively challenged". We score more points than anyone in the Big East and are ranked #14 in offensive efficiency per kenpom. I don't call that "offensively challenged".

rocky_warrior

Quote from: ATWizJr on March 01, 2011, 10:31:16 AM
Very unflattering article in the ProJo today re: PC.

Not to hijack the Jay Wright thread - Nova van's are understandably frustrated with their recent slide - just as MU fans would be.  A very small percentage of them will say dumb things about getting rid of Jay Wright - just as a small percentage of MU fans would say about Buzz.

But anyway, onto my hijack, from the linked article...

QuoteWe're not talking about a Marquette team that's on its way to the Final Four here. We're talking about a Marquette team that's 9-7 in the Big East, an offensively challenged team that's never going to win many H-O-R-S-E games, but is tough and plays hard, two descriptions that don't always fit the Friars.

I guess he's right if you're just talking the shooting performance in the PC game, but by the numebrs...

1) We're a better offense team that PC, I beleive - right? At least as far as I can understand from KenPoms numbers.

2) Despite any in-game shooting, I think I'd gladly line DJO, Butler, Buycks, and maybe even Crowder up for a HORSE game against most other BE team's top 4 players.  Sure we'd come in behind ND, but I think we'd have a good chance against most others.

Sorry - just thought that particular paragraph showed he did no research on MU's offense. (and brew beat me to the post button)

Benny B

Quote from: brewcity77 on March 01, 2011, 11:11:13 AM
Unflattering and uneducated article. He calls us "offensively challenged". We score more points than anyone in the Big East and are ranked #14 in offensive efficiency per kenpom. I don't call that "offensively challenged".

Evidently, when the author says "offensively challenged" he/she means "can't hit a jump shot."

Last time I checked, a jump shot and a layup both count as two points.  Sheesh, where's Gene Hackman with a tape measure when you need him?
Quote from: LittleMurs on January 08, 2015, 07:10:33 PM
Wow, I'm very concerned for Benny.  Being able to mimic Myron Medcalf's writing so closely implies an oncoming case of dementia.

brewcity77

Quote from: Benny B on March 01, 2011, 11:18:43 AM
Evidently, when the author says "offensively challenged" he/she means "can't hit a jump shot."

Last time I checked, a jump shot and a layup both count as two points.  Sheesh, where's Gene Hackman with a tape measure when you need him?

My response on their site...

Quote from: brewcity77No intent to slam PC, you guys have it rough now, and I'm hoping to see the Friars bounce back. But for the writer to call Marquette "offensively challenged" is simply stupid. According to kenpom we have the 14th ranked offense in the country, and have consistently been in the top 10-15 all season long. We score more points than anyone in the Big East, including Providence, and this was before Sunday's game. We have scored 70+ in 23/29 games.

I'll grant you that our defense has been inconsistent, and is only now starting to look respectable, but offensively we have been a juggernaut all season. We dunk, layup, and dunk on everyone, and also have shot 36.8% from three in conference play, so outside of ND, Pitt, and Louisville, we'd fare pretty well in a game of H-O-R-S-E as well.

How about researching the team that just beat you before you call them "offensively challenged"?

Oops...it's 'Nova, not 'Ville that's in 3rd in 3-point percentage. Meh...whatever.

NersEllenson

Quote from: Benny B on March 01, 2011, 11:18:43 AM
Evidently, when the author says "offensively challenged" he/she means "can't hit a jump shot."

Last time I checked, a jump shot and a layup both count as two points.  Sheesh, where's Gene Hackman with a tape measure when you need him?

Sounds as though the author views the game of basketball through a similar lens as does our Bailbondsman.  It isn't exactly traditional basketball to be so aggressive going to the hoop and scoring at the basket.
"I'm not sure Cadougan would fix the problems on this team. I'm not even convinced he would be better for this team than DeWil is."

BrewCity77, December 8, 2013

reinko

Quote from: Ners on March 01, 2011, 11:32:42 AM
Sounds as though the author views the game of basketball through a similar lens as does our Bailbondsman.  It isn't exactly traditional basketball to be so aggressive going to the hoop and scoring at the basket.

This is post is SOOOOOOOOO necessary.  Sitting back in your chair, thinking to yourself, "ZING!  Take that CBB.  Boo yah, I'm awesome."


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