Disappointed in the BC crowd

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In no way is it a right for the students.

Those seats are provided because student sections bring energy, noise, and spirit. If you aren't bringing it, why should Marquette offer them?

Typical Marquette student.

[maxpower773]

I think what many of the you are missing here is that sitting in the lower bowl with good seats should not be a students right. It is a privilege to have the seats - so why not use it. Because I am sure someone else would surely like better seats.

I can't believe you think students don't have the right to sit in the lower bowl.  We aren't talking about seats along the side of the court, but the end and one corner.  So if you really want to kick us students out of there go ahead, see how many of us show up 4 or so hours before for Idaho State to get a prime seat at the front of the 400 sections where we can't be heard.  But if you along with the rest of the fans would like to cheer (you know make noise like the student section, even if its not all game) then go ahead, take those seats. But you're also missing the point, this is college, this is our team. It is different in college than in the NBA. There you have just normal fans like yourself. I'm not saying you don't cheer, but do you like a student? It is the whole point of college basketball, the atmosphere created by the students. Put us up top and we don't exist. You can't just move students because then its not college basketball.

And I will admit last night was the first time I had ever booed our own team. But so far there has been absolutely no intensity shown from this team, and free throws have been pathetic.  I think Barro was our best free throw shooter last night 2-2, and at a good time, how sad is that?  I know that we'll have bad shooting nights, but this was beyond that and just added to the fact that we can't play defense and can't make a shot with nobody guarding us.  None the less , I cheered almost the whole game no matter how much we sucked. Probably more than you can say.

[maxpower773]

In no way is it a right for the students.

Those seats are provided because student sections bring energy, noise, and spirit. If you aren't bringing it, why should Marquette offer them?

Typical Marquette student.

Why should we if the team isn't?  I don't care about bad shooting, but they lack as much energy and intensity as we(the student section) did last night. I cheered last night no matter how bad it was.  Obviously there were times where none of us were cheering, but I bet you cheered the whole game to make up for that right? And until the university moves us, it is our right, those are our sections.

[Desert_Eagle]

On behalf of the student section, we were not booing at the players. Almost all of the boos from the student section were directed towards the refs and the other instances that may have sounded like boos to others in the stadium were simply frustrations being vented. There were a lot of expletives, but never boos. Trust me, despite how poor we were playing, we would never boo our players. Its early in the season and we realize that we have yet to get into a rhythm. We are all just ready to see what this team can do and its frustrating to watch us underpreform.

[Chili]

Why not give premium seats to those who use them? Reward the students who show up. And if you do not want to show up for all the games, I really don't think you would mind sitting in the upper bowl.

I think what many of the you are missing here is that sitting in the lower bowl with good seats should not be a students right. It is a privilege to have the seats - so why not use it. Because I am sure someone else would surely like better seats.

Maxpower (great Simpson's reference BTW.) -

You miss quoted me. If you show up to all the games and cheer, then hell yes you should have lower bowl seats. I still think the real fanatics should have prime seats (within reason). But last night was an example of a game where the students struggled. I think the goal of the section should be to have every seat in the lower bowl filled - NO MATTER WHAT! No excuses. If that cannot happen, shrink the section in the lower bowl because it is too big. Make the lower bowl tickets mandatory attendance tickets (or 80% like some schools do). Make them special tickets for the real fans. Like you who showed up last night (even though you boo'd "Your Team" which I totally disagree with). I just do not want to reward apethetic and Johny Come Lately Fans when the University could use the extra $$$ from selling full tickets.

Lastly, MU students have no idea how f-ing lucky you have it. My freshman year at the University of Arizona I was lucky enough to win the student lottery to get tickets to the Men's Basketball games. Only 750 students won the right to buy 2 tickets so hopefully 1,500 students could attend. Thats it. For a school of 30,000+ students at a RABID college basketball school 1,500 student tickets tops. Most students never won. NEVER. I mean look at other schools. UW - Madison, MSU, Duke - not everyone gets to go. While MU does everything but wipe your butt when you are finished crapping so you can have your seats.

[maxpower773]

Ok, I see your point now, and I do agree. It was your second line that almost contradicts your point you just made, which is why I responded the way I did. But thanks for clearing that up.  And my booing was about 95% towards Crean/refs, I should have stated that before. I would never boo bad shooting (and usually never the team in general no matter what), but they aren't playing with any heart right now, which I have never seen(and I've been going to games for a while now). It took about 36 minutes or so for them to start playing tough defense.  Offense will come, but intensity can't unless they make it happen. If they were trying their hardest, I have no problem.  If they lost a close game, but tried and played tough all game, I would have less of a problem then I do now.  During basketball season, I schedule what I have to do around the games because I love basketball and I support our team. So it's not like I'm a fair weather fan.  And I'm not sure about this, but the lower section had to be pretty full because I had friends who sat up top. There were no more than 10 up top, but I'd think they would have sat down below if there were seats.

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maxwell,

The CBE took a section away from the students for the teams that played before us. The section did not fill the lower bowl yesterday.

[HoopDreams]

Lastly, MU students have no idea how f-ing lucky you have it. My freshman year at the University of Arizona I was lucky enough to win the student lottery to get tickets to the Men's Basketball games. Only 750 students won the right to buy 2 tickets so hopefully 1,500 students could attend. Thats it. For a school of 30,000+ students at a RABID college basketball school 1,500 student tickets tops. Most students never won. NEVER. I mean look at other schools. UW - Madison, MSU, Duke - not everyone gets to go. While MU does everything but wipe your butt when you are finished crapping so you can have your seats.

Chili- please, in all seriousness..there is absolutely no reason for you to be downplaying our student section. If you were any sort of Marquette fan or basketball fan for that matter you would understand what the students bring in supporting a basketball program. If you have followed Marquette basketball over the years you would understand how much the students have come to get involved since Tom Crean's arrival. We understand how lucky we are to be involved and attend our basketball games...and if we did't care we wouldn't be there. Never call yourself a member of the Marquette community if you intend to demean and disregard the contribution of our students. If you were a true Marquette fan you never would have considered going to Arizona (and by the way they played well against Virginia)...and finally, Real Chili is a Marquette tradition not Arizona's.

[Chili]

Lastly, MU students have no idea how f-ing lucky you have it. My freshman year at the University of Arizona I was lucky enough to win the student lottery to get tickets to the Men's Basketball games. Only 750 students won the right to buy 2 tickets so hopefully 1,500 students could attend. Thats it. For a school of 30,000+ students at a RABID college basketball school 1,500 student tickets tops. Most students never won. NEVER. I mean look at other schools. UW - Madison, MSU, Duke - not everyone gets to go. While MU does everything but wipe your butt when you are finished crapping so you can have your seats.

Chili- please, in all seriousness..there is absolutely no reason for you to be downplaying our student section. If you were any sort of Marquette fan or basketball fan for that matter you would understand what the students bring in supporting a basketball program. If you have followed Marquette basketball over the years you would understand how much the students have come to get involved since Tom Crean's arrival. We understand how lucky we are to be involved and attend our basketball games...and if we did't care we wouldn't be there. Never call yourself a member of the Marquette community if you intend to demean and disregard the contribution of our students. If you were a true Marquette fan you never would have considered going to Arizona (and by the way they played well against Virginia)...and finally, Real Chili is a Marquette tradition not Arizona's.

Hey genius, I went to Arizona for my freshman year and then transfered to Marquette. I have been a Marquette fan since birth since my family has worked at MU my entire life. For Christ's sake, I had season tickets to MU when I was in high school. I have missed 3 MU home games in the last 7 years. I have also only missed 3 MU NCAA game's since 2001-2002 (I missed Holy Cross, Mi$$ou & Pitt in 2003). I haven't missed a DePaul game at DePaul in 4 years. Hell, I am going to every MU in the month of February this year going on the road to DePaul, Georgetown and Notre Dame. I remember the protests in front of Real Chili when Jeff got fired. Mild, Medium, Hot, Fired! I have served on an alumni board at MU for the past 2.5 years. Some of us, actually most on this board, have been fans (and were students) before Tom's arrival in Milwaukee and know where it has come. I just do not think the majority of student embrace this team and program like they should. So don't tell me I do not know what an MU community is and you sure as $hit have no basis for telling me what I should think about MU or the basketball program.

[muhoosier260]

alright chili, you seem to be caught up in some holier than thou fan fantasy. why shoot down the student section? how much better off would the team/crowd at home games be with an upper level student section? as some have posted, this is college basketball, moving the student section up top would make marquette an anomaly among ALL college basketball teams. as much as anyone refuses to admit it, the student section leads the crowd at the bc, not to say anyone else is a bad fan, but the students are the fuel for the fire, IMHO

[Chili]

I really think a lot of you need to go back to Eng 001 and refresh on reading comp. I never said move all of the students to the upper level. But I do think more need show up. There is no excuse for not filling up the lower level ever. I have also said in previous posts that the students are the catalysts to the crowd - which is why they should be in attendance. Again, tonight the students at the game were great tonight. But, the lower bowl of the student section was maybe 75% full and one section was removed and given to the visiting teams. My belief is that if the students want to keep so many sections in the lower level, more should show up. If not, take 224 and make it season tickets so MU can get more revenue.

So show me where I said I wanted to move the entire student section to the upper level and I will quit yapping. Since I never said that - I will stand by my argument.

[HoopDreams]

Chili- did you come back from Arizona for the MU home games..you must have been missing from the student section.    Oh wait, according to you the student section does not matter and the fans don't care.  Please do not disrespect the fans who have embraced MU basketball and attend the games to support the team and the school. I am offended as a fan who has attended games my whole life and am disappointed you would humiliate those who choose to support this university. There is no reason why you, a fan, should discredit a student section that waits for hours to get into games and creates a great positive environment for our basketball team at our home games..

[Desert_Eagle]

Chili- did you come back from Arizona for the MU home games..you must have been missing from the student section.    Oh wait, according to you the student section does not matter and the fans don't care.  Please do not disrespect the fans who have embraced MU basketball and attend the games to support the team and the school. I am offended as a fan who has attended games my whole life and am disappointed you would humiliate those who choose to support this university. There is no reason why you, a fan, should discredit a student section that waits for hours to get into games and creates a great positive environment for our basketball team at our home games..

Ya Chili, you ... Stop posting until you come up with something intelligent/insightful to say.

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I really don't see where you guys are coming from.

Chili has stated that if we can't fill the lower bowl, take away tickets. Why are you attacking him? If we can't I am 100% for taking it away. More rabid fans down low and spark a fire under some 'big game fans' asses.

[rocky_warrior]

So show me where I said I wanted to move the entire student section to the upper level...

Look out Chili, you've apparently drawn the wrath of fans that have been following the team for *nearly* 3 years. 

Actually, I'm just excited that we're nearly to our first 40 post thread, so that I can see if the option "Allow 'show all' option until thread goes beyond 40 posts" really works 

[maxpower773]

If not, take 224 and make it season tickets so MU can get more revenue.

Actually it'd be 225, thats technically the student section. But the past two games it was for other teams' fans I'm guessing, or maybe just for anyone who wanted to buy those tickets.  Yeah don't take away 224, that's a bad move. But 225, I actually have little problem with, only for these non-conference games though.

[DJAMES1]

Chili has stated that if we can't fill the lower bowl, take away tickets. Why are you attacking him? If we can't I am 100% for taking it away. More rabid fans down low and spark a fire under some 'big game fans' asses.

So should we take away the tickets from the alumni that do not attend every game?  I know all the alumni on this site want to relive their college days, but with all do respect this is the Student's team and you are writing on a student fourm.  Let us enjoy the short time we have at Marquette as students, and as we become alumni ourselves we will support both the team and the Students section.

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Are you drunk? Or has Marquette lowered the admissions levels? The alumni pay damn good money to be where they are. Students have nothing to rag on alumni about until each and every 4,000 is up cheering every game.

This is hardly a student forum...

Without the alumni you are looking at a Horizon League team...

Start respecting...

[HoopDreams]

Look out Chili, you've apparently drawn the wrath of fans that have been following the team for *nearly* 3 years.

What a statement..trully wonderful. You have no idea what you and Chili are talking about. Nearly two years lets say two decades. I've seen the John Mueller's, the Brian Barone's, and the Jarod Lovette's and I am more proud than ever to be a part of a team that is seeing great success and development into a high caliber basketball program. I have seen Marquette's ups and downs as a team and am so grateful that students have become such a part of the team's success. Let me know when you have wiped the sweat of Brian Wardle and Anthony's Peiper's off the Bradley Center hardwood.

P.S. As fans of Marquette I do not understand why contention needs to exist as we all support the same team. Please reevaluate Chili.

[Desert_Eagle]

Are you drunk? Or has Marquette lowered the admissions levels? The alumni pay damn good money to be where they are. Students have nothing to rag on alumni about until each and every 4,000 is up cheering every game.

This is hardly a student forum...

Without the alumni you are looking at a Horizon League team...

Start respecting...

Yes, the alumni pay good money for their seats, but the comment was about alumni attendance. Does every alum with tickets show up to every game? No. Why is that? Because they may not want to make the trip to the BC for a game against a lesser opponent. If you haven't caught on already, this is the exact same reason students don't make it out to every game. They too have other responsibilities like, oh ya, school, especially on weekdays. So quit bashing the students, we're all in the same boat. And we'll start talking respect when you stop being such a dick.

[rocky_warrior]

Lol...it's the neverending thread...

I know all the alumni on this site want to relive their college days, but with all do respect this is the Student's team and you are writing on a student fourm

Wow, you've really pegged the "old" alumni, they're just trying to live until tomorrow

You have no idea what you and Chili are talking about.

Actually, I think I have a pretty good idea what I am talking about.  Uh...yeah...I do, just double checked with myself.  Just in case I didn't make myself clear...oh wait...I didn't...I was just laughing at the thread....

Chili doesn't have the power to take away tickets from students.  Students don't have power to get better tickets from Marquette unless they start proving they can fill the seats they've already got.  Debate it all you want, be my guest. That's why we're here. 

[marquette09]

Are you drunk? Or has Marquette lowered the admissions levels? The alumni pay damn good money to be where they are. Students have nothing to rag on alumni about until each and every 4,000 is up cheering every game.

This is hardly a student forum...

Without the alumni you are looking at a Horizon League team...

Start respecting...

without students you are looking at no team.  It is our peers, other student that are the ones out there playing. 

[MUshrooms]

Are you drunk? Or has Marquette lowered the admissions levels? The alumni pay damn good money to be where they are. Students have nothing to rag on alumni about until each and every 4,000 is up cheering every game.

This is hardly a student forum...

Without the alumni you are looking at a Horizon League team...

Start respecting...

I think we all need to just start respecting eachother.  Students deserve respect too.  The team wouldn't be where it is without the alumni, and it wouldn't be where it is without the students supporting them.  One isn't better than the other.  The Bradley Center is set up just how it should be, and it seems to be working.  Just because all the students aren't at every game doesn't mean the section should be moved/decreased in size. 

We're paying a lot of money to go to college and it's not very encouraging to see some alumni complaining about us.  Part of the reason Marquette is supposed to be such a great school is because of the great alumni support.  So let's all just get along and be content with the seating arrangements, because they aren't going anywhere.

[MUfan12]

Agreed Pete.

This little pissing match is frustrating. The setup they have now works. That being said, more students need to show up... it's frustrating to hear excuses from other students when people like myself, and marqptm, and the other students here manage to work around it.

But the argument here shows a clear lack of perspective from some of the newer student posters. Without the season ticket holders, and more importantly the donations that come with it, the program does not go. I am not saying take a section away, but for anyone (not saying that is happening here) to ask for more lower level student seating is ridiculous.

All things considered, MU has pretty decent student fans for the most part. They show up, they are loud, and are beginning to get more organized, which believe me has been a process, one that I have been a part of since I got here.

Unlike a majority of the student posters here, I have history with MU basketball that goes well beyond my time here. I'm in my 18th full season of Marquette basketball, I have been going to home games since I was three years old. I remember what the BC was like with hardly any students, and the difference is night and day. But I am not going to overstate our importance either, by diminishing the importance of the season ticket holder's contributions like some have in this thread. We are both important parts of the program, each in different ways.

[spiral97]

...and you are writing on a student forum...

hrm.. slight correction there.. this isn't a "student" forum... rocky and I are alum of *nearly* 10 years (I guess we'd fall into the "old" category if we must).  further, the site is "for the fans, by the fans" which, yes, includes students but hardly constrains it to them.

I like to see the fire in discussions like this because lots of viewpoints are being shared.  Let's continue to keep it civil.

I might as well jump into the fray.. I have no issues with chili's comments.  Other's have said to do that just for the non-conference games and I disagree with that - if someone buys season tickets for a seat in that section they should get ALL the (home) games in that seat.

I'll bring up a parallel and related issue - what about reserving seats for us alum who would love to travel and see games there (and do) but end up wearing oxygen tanks in the top row of the uppers?  And _I_ am one of those bunch considering I live in Dallas.  Do I expect MU to reserve the seats?  NO.  In fact I would disagree with the strategy.  It comes down to the fact that most alum who would travel to see games would do so mostly for the big ones only.  What about the seats for the non-big games?  I'd rather a season ticket holder book the seats for the entire year.  Even if they may skip some of the minor games as well they have at least paid for the right to do so.

I DO however have an issue with MU saying "no ticket sales outside of WI and IL".  What kinda b.s. is that?!  I understand the desire to prevent the opposing team's fan base from buying up all the tickets and turning it into their own home game but to preclude the traveling alum as well is rather crappy PR (and actually IR - internal relations).  I'd be happy to provide them with info to validate that I am an alum if that is what they need.