[Cracked Sidewalks] How loud would you have booed MU losses to Auburn (237th ranked), Hampton (211th), Miami-Ohio (196th) and Yale (166th)?

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How loud would you have booed MU losses to Auburn (237th ranked), Hampton (211th), Miami-Ohio (196th) and Yale (166th)?

Written by: jpudner@concentricgrasstops.com (bamamarquettefan1)

Sometimes when I read the skepticism about MU making the tournament, I feel like critics may as well be yelling, “there is no way MU is fast enough to outrun the elimination bear!”  We don’t have to be faster than a bear, just the the other teams trying to outrun the elimination bear.

Let’s look at the next 16 teams behind MU according to Forecast RPI that would have to pass a 9-9 MU team to make MU fall to the back of the pack and be eliminated.

According to Pomeroy, MUs worst loss is to 50th-ranked Gonzaga and its best road win is against 76th ranked Rutgers, compared to:

1. Cincinnati – won at 36th St. John’s, also worst loss to 36th St. John’s at home
2. Minnesota - won at 55th Michigan, lost to 112th Virginia
3. Florida State – won at 67th Miami, lost to 237th Auburn
4. Virginia Tech – won at 20th Maryland, lost to 112th Virginia
5. Michigan State –won at 83rd Northwestern, lost to 83rd Iowa
6. Georgia – won at 73rd Mississippi, lost to 47th Tennessee
7. UCLA – won at 80th Oregon, lost to 99th VCU/95th Montana
8. Baylor – won at 41st Texas A&M, lost to 130th Oklahoma
9. Xavier – won at 38th Duquesne, lost to 196th Miami-Ohio
10. Temple – won at 105th Dayton, lost to 69th California
11. Oklahoma State – won at 181st LaSalle, lost to 136th Texas Tech
12. UNLV – won at 124th Air Force, lost to 135th UC Santa Barbara
13. Washington State – won at 79th Stanford, lost to 80th Oregon
14. Nebraska – won at 130th Oklahoma, lost to 155th Davidson
15. Colorado State – won at 29th UNLV, lost to 211th Hampton
16. Boston College – won at 20th Maryland, lost to 166th Yale

So MU is ahead of all 16 of these teams at 10-8 according to Forecast RPI.  If we go 9-9, Cincinnati and Georgia certainly pass us, but you would really stick all of the other 14 ahead of us?

BEST ROAD WIN.  The most common argument made for why a 9-9 MU team would NOT make the tournament is “no quality road wins.”  However, if you look at Pomeroy ratings, MUs win at 76th ranked Rutgers is better than the best road wins of half the teams that would have to pass MU.  Nebraska beat 130th ranked Oklahoma by 1 point on the road tonight to get their first road win of the season, and Michigan State is 1-8 on the road against DI foes.  MUs overall road performance is better than most bubble teams.

“We can’t win on the road,” sounds good in a vacuum, until you look at the teams that would have to pass MU.

BAD LOSSES.  With its worst loss to 50th-ranked Gonzaga, Marquette wins the “no bad losses.”  Even assuming we lose at 62nd ranked Seton Hall to close the season at 9-9, all but two of the teams that need to catch us will have worse losses.  In fact, 10 of 16 teams that would have to pass a 9-9 Marquette team to kick them out of the tournament have bad losses to teams outside the Top 100.  

If some MU fans want to boo the players for losing by 12 to a St. John’s team that won at WVU by 10, by 18 over Notre Dame, by 15 over Duke, and by 17 over UConn, I would suggest those fans are very, very spoiled.  It ranks with our loss to 50th ranked Gonzaga as our worse loss of the year.

BOOS, REALLY?  How loud would your boos be if MU had lost to 237th ranked Auburn, 211th ranked Hampton, 196th Miami-Ohio, or 166th ranked Yale?  And you are going to put all 10 teams on this list with losses to teams outside the Top 100 to ahead of a 9-9 MU team to make us the “last team out?”

Admittedly a few of the 16 teams that would need to pass MU could come due to surprise winners of any combination of the ACC, B10, B12, BE, CUSA, MWC, P10, SEC, WCC, but even if three of those nine tournaments bring new surprise teams into the tourney, you need to pick out 13 of the 16 teams listed above to bump MU.

Certainly 3-2 is not a lock after the recent slump, but do it and we get in as long as we don’t get upset in the opening round of the Big East Tournament.   Will I sleep easy on that? No, I will be nervous and won’t be surprised if we are in one of the new play-in games in Dayton under that scenario – but I will feel good and believe 4-1 is a no brainer for a solid seed.

Let’s start by taking care of business when Seton Hall comes Saturday.

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[Rollout-the-Barrel]

Booooo!!! Wait....what??? Don't put out objective data to mess with fans right to boo. Blasphemous!
Hopefully the team uses the negativity to their advantage and plays with an "us against the world" mentality and destroys seton hall.  But will the verbally negative fans then take credit? I give up, but I won't boo.

[Tugg Speedman]

Cincy beat Louisville last night.

[Rudy]

Nice post. Have to say that even if we had a bad loss to a bad team...the booing would not have been appropriate. This team gives their best effort.

[avid1010]

Nice post. Have to say that even if we had a bad loss to a bad team...the booing would not have been appropriate. This team gives their best effort.

I was at the game. I didn't boo the players, but I said a number of times how hard it was to watch the end of that game, and I would have walked out early had I had aisle seats.  I don't believe they were giving their best effort at the end of the game.  To continuously watch a team milk the clock to 10 seconds or less and then beat their man going right is something that doesn't happen in good 8th grade basketball.  I thought the crowd was upset because MU wasn't showing the effort we are used to seeing. 

[Niv Berkowitz]

MU lost at home during the blue/gold championship game in Crean's final year (I think) to ND State or some crape like that. I don't know about all this booing and pessimism and crape seeping in. But with what's happened the last couple years. I think it's a mixture of:

- team performing above expectations the last two years and expecting that again
- fans with expectations that are unrealistic year after year for MU...in the Big East (NOTE - Obviously, the team tries to win every game, but it's unfair to the entire team to expect a top five finish in the BEast annually
- fans being completely spoiled by five straight NCAA tourneys
- fans sick of seeing the team up by 7 pts or more, blow the lead, and then lose down the stretch more times than naught

I really think that last one is the reason why the quick turn around from fans the last two weeks.

Then again, it could just be the simple fact of the extremely loud, critical, obnoxious minority that's taken over this board of late.