I know a lot of you think 9-9 gets us in

[ChicosBailBonds]

Wish I shared your confidence in that.  9-9 is going to be a nail biter.

So many blown opportunities this year.  Frustrating.


I thought Elmore made a great statement about defense and our JUCO players.  Cohesiveness, or lack of it, because they are not used to playing defense together for long periods of tenure.

Spot on

[TallTitan34]

Right Chicos.  This team would be much better without DJO and Crowder.

[Doris Burkes Thong]

I don't see 9-9 getting us in. Bottom line is this team needs at least one marquee road win(at UCONN) or else needs to beat an upper echelon team in the BET. And then if they can win the rest of their home games I think they get in for sure.

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Wish I shared your confidence in that.  9-9 is going to be a nail biter.

So many blown opportunities this year.  Frustrating.


I thought Elmore made a great statement about defense and our JUCO players.  Cohesiveness, or lack of it, because they are not used to playing defense together for long periods of tenure.

Spot on

Chicos wants a team full of traditional players that will stay at Marquette for a full four years. If not he hates them.

What Chicos always negates to mention is that we are stocked with JUCOs because of the empty shelves left by his buddy Crean.

[Jam Chowder]

Quoting Len Elmore does not lend itself to your credibility...

[g0lden3agle]

Right Chicos.  This team would be much better without DJO and Crowder.

Not what Chicos said at all... While the JUCO's bring plenty of talent to our program, we lack a certain level of comfort with each other as we are actually such an inexperienced unit.

[🏀]

Quoting Len Elmore does not lend itself to your credibility...

What credibility?

[Spaniel with a Short Tail]

You guys need to re-read Chicos post - that's not what he's saying at all.

[warriors1965]

9-9 does not get MU in, imo.

Late game fades, chokes, poop-outs, whatever you want to call them, are now the norm for MU under Buzz.

[ChicosBailBonds]

Right Chicos.  This team would be much better without DJO and Crowder.

I think you're missing the point.  The game is played on both ends of the court.  It's an offensive game and a Defensive game.  We are #1 in offense but #15 in defense.  No one is saying the team would be better off without Jae or DJO.  We are saying the defense stinks and Elmore's point has some validity to it.

[GGGG]

I thought Elmore made a great statement about defense and our JUCO players.  Cohesiveness, or lack of it, because they are not used to playing defense together for long periods of tenure.

Spot on

How is that "spot on?"  They are a poor defensive team.  Are no teams with JUCOs good defensive teams?  Crowder failing to play help side is 6th grade stuff.  Correlation doesn't mean causation.

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Correlation doesn't mean causation.

Or Caucasian, if you get what Chicos has been going for this season.

[g0lden3agle]

I love how losing to nationally ranked teams on the road automatically means we're going to let some bad losses come our way as well.  We have 4 home games yet, a winnable game at the end of the season @ SH, and what will likely be a single digit loss @ UConn.  How is 9-9 some sort of guarantee all of the sudden?

Couple in the fact that MU can get a win or two at the BEast tourney, and I'm not worried until we lose one of the ones at home.

[ChicosBailBonds]

Chicos wants a team full of traditional players that will stay at Marquette for a full four years. If not he hates them.

What Chicos always negates to mention is that we are stocked with JUCOs because of the empty shelves left by his buddy Crean.

My buddy?  Sigh

I do prefer 4 year players and won't back away from that.

Perhaps you have a better argument why our defense is so poor and on a 3 year downward trajectory?

By the way, is the year 2019 when people here stop blaming Crean?  This team has talent.  This team played great defense in the first half...I'll bet Tom Crean was mentioned by Buzz in the halftime speech and that's what caused the defense to go south.

[Mr. Nielsen]

Plain and simple, St.John's is huge. Come out to the BC on Al's night!

[HoopsMalone]

If we beat Cincy and St. John's, it would be hard to keep us out.  We have already beaten WVU and Syracuse so that would mean that we have beaten all the middle of the pack teams.  

If we lose to St. John's we are toast.  They are really putting something together now.

[ChicosBailBonds]

Quoting Len Elmore does not lend itself to your credibility...

He was only a NBA player for 10 years, 3 time ACC player and All American college player.  Harvard law grad and college basketball announcer...he clearly has no credibility.

I wonder what his viewpoint is on rushing the court

[Hards Alumni]

9-9 gets us in very easily this year.  Book it.

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My buddy?  Sigh

I do prefer 4 year players and won't back away from that.

Perhaps you have a better argument why our defense is so poor and on a 3 year downward trajectory?

By the way, is the year 2019 when people here stop blaming Crean?  This team has talent.  This team played great defense in the first half...I'll bet Tom Crean was mentioned by Buzz in the halftime speech and that's what caused the defense to go south.

I'd prefer four year players too, but I don't mind the players we have at all.

I think you're grasping for your typical straws to merely say we play bad defense because we have JUCO players. We played good team defense for the first 15 minutes of the game. Georgetown made better adjustments, and we made terrible adjustments.

I think people around here will stop bringing up Crean when you stop trying to build him up at every chance possible. You can't say we have too many JUCOs and then not take a look at the classes that were left for Buzz.

[ChicosBailBonds]

If we beat Cincy and St. John's, it would be hard to keep us out.  We have already beaten WVU and Syracuse so that would mean that we have beaten all the middle of the pack teams.  

If we lose to St. John's we are toast.  They are really putting something together now.

Agree that SJU is must win, but my concern is still that every good win is at home.

Wednesday night's escape against South Florida right now is MONUMENTALLY huge. 

[ChicosBailBonds]

Or Caucasian, if you get what Chicos has been going for this season.

Moderators...this is the crap I've been talking about with you the last month.  This is complete crap.  Why is it tolerated?  Why do we let posters make racial remarks?   

[ChicosBailBonds]

9-9 gets us in very easily this year.  Book it.

VERY EASILY.  Well, if you're wrong, what do we win?  A televised matchup with TCU and Wisconsin in football?  An Inconvenient Truth DVD?

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Moderators...this is the crap I've been talking about with you the last month.  This is complete crap.  Why is it tolerated?

It's sad, I've ignored you for the majority of the season. However, after you're little time off you have come back with the same crap.

[Eye]

Getting back to the original idea on 9-9 not being enough, a grand total of two teams have ever made the tourney with 14 losses. U of A in '08 with three good road wins playing the #2 schedule in the country and Georgia in '01 with five good road wins and playing the #1 schedule in the country. I understand the rules are a little different with the three extra spots this year and charminy-soft bubble, but I'm with CBB on this one. I don't think 9-9 will be enough, particularly with that meaning the lack of questionable/home losses would be off the board at that point. With the extra bids, 10-8 probably barely will be enough. Recall the Rodents getting in recently at 19-12, 10-8, and MU could easily be 20-13, 10-8 right now.

[Hards Alumni]

U mad about something, Chicos?