Should Buzz be fired?

[tower912]

No.   Fans go around the bend after losses.   New England fans calling for Brady to move on, etc.   But if you think he should, state it here and say why.  Sign your name to it.    Man up.   Quit the weak passive aggressive crap and state once and for all if you think he should go.

[willie warrior]

No, but that does not mean he cannot be criticized for some of his decisions.

[tower912]

Agreed.  His team should have kept attacking on Saturday.   

[RawdogDX]

This thread is stupid.  We aren't allowed to complain unless we think he should be fired?

What's the point of this board in your opinion?

[tower912]

Yes, you can criticize.   But if some of the posts from the last couple days are to be believed, then there are posters here who think he should go.   Here is their chance to make their points.    And of all the ridiculous crap the last two days you call THIS one stupid?    Wow. 

[APieperFan3]

No. Absolutely not.

The criticism is much deserved.

Buzz - please show us you are learning from your mistakes.

[VanderBabyBlue]

The non-game issues (such as Newbill situation) are more likely to get him canned than losing.  And no, of course he shouldn't be fired.  He's obviously not a great coach, though he may become one some day.

[ChicosBailBonds]

No, he should not be fired.  He's a good coach, good recruiter.  I think he needs to be smarter sometimes in how he handles players (on and off the court). He certainly needs some more seasoning as a bench coach as well, but not a chance he should be fired based on what he's accomplished thus far.

Yes, fans go off the deep end.....this popped up on the internets yesterday as just another example

http://www.redbubble.com/people/djklambake/t-shirts/6599018-1-fire-buzz-williams?utm_source=fb&utm_medium=wall&utm_content=new&utm_campaign=social

I have no idea who the artist Djklambake is, but in my alerts for MU, this popped up late last night.

[🏀]

No, he should not be fired.  He's a good coach, good recruiter.  I think he needs to be smarter sometimes in how he handles players (on and off the court). He certainly needs some more seasoning as a bench coach as well, but not a chance he should be fired based on what he's accomplished thus far.

Yes, fans go off the deep end.....this popped up on the internets yesterday as just another example

http://www.redbubble.com/people/djklambake/t-shirts/6599018-1-fire-buzz-williams?utm_source=fb&utm_medium=wall&utm_content=new&utm_campaign=social

I have no idea who the artist Djklambake is, but in my alerts for MU, this popped up late last night.

I'm glad http://www.buzzwilliams.com/ is still safe.

[mu-rara]

I am firmly in the Buzz is the man camp.

He took the air out of the ball way to early @ Louisville, leading to the very painful loss.

Anyone who thinks he should be fired is nuts.

Remember Rick Majerus.....many of us were happy as hell when he quit.  (Yes, I was one of them)  Then he went on to great success.  Buzz does have some lessons to learn.  He is a saavy guy.  He'll learn.

[nyg]

No, but I believe next year he needs to hire a very experienced bench coach.

[Tugg Speedman]

Better question ... who gets more out of the current line-up ... Buzz or Crean?

[avid1010]

No, but that does not mean he cannot be criticized for some of his decisions.

But we should have a coach who we do not trust, and who has not met our demands?  You have criticized specifics, and that's fine.  When you do that, you often show your insight, and that makes it easy for people to take your comment for what it's worth.  When you throw out demands like, "Buzz must sign JP" or when you bash someone for saying "In Buzz We Trust" you make it sound like he is doing an unacceptable job, and is not trustworthy.  It reaches a level where some say, "Hey, if you know of someone better or have other solutions please state them."  I can look at Buzz's performance and state that I hope he finds ways to better close out games as his career progresses, or even that I don't trust him in close games, but that's different than making demands and making it seem as if I don't trust him period.  It goes far beyond constructive criticism, and while the opinion of those on this board doesn't really matter, it's also fair to point out if certain people at MU or noted Alum had those feelings it could put Buzz in a situation where he feels he's best off to leave MU.  My guess is in the next few years we (fans) are going to be talking about ways to keep him, not placing ridiculous demands on him, and Willie will find someone else to try and bring down.  Enjoy life a little...

[ChicosBailBonds]

Better question ... who gets more out of the current line-up ... Buzz or Crean?

So glad another thread goes in this direction   

[4everwarriors]

Here we go. Buzz may have some worts, but IMO, Crean has leprosy. You can treat the worts and they probably won't return, but leprosy, that crap'll kill you.

[goan]

Buzz is a young coach and will make mistakes; but he has been very good to MU and we need to support him during good times and bad times. I remmber when Al made mistakes and MU stayed with him. Keep up the good work Buzz; you have my support.

[🏀]

Better question ... who gets more out of the current line-up ... Buzz or Crean?

unnatural carnal knowledge you for even asking this.

[willie warrior]

But we should have a coach who we do not trust, and who has not met our demands?  You have criticized specifics, and that's fine.  When you do that, you often show your insight, and that makes it easy for people to take your comment for what it's worth.  When you throw out demands like, "Buzz must sign JP" or when you bash someone for saying "In Buzz We Trust" you make it sound like he is doing an unacceptable job, and is not trustworthy.  It reaches a level where some say, "Hey, if you know of someone better or have other solutions please state them."  I can look at Buzz's performance and state that I hope he finds ways to better close out games as his career progresses, or even that I don't trust him in close games, but that's different than making demands and making it seem as if I don't trust him period.  It goes far beyond constructive criticism, and while the opinion of those on this board doesn't really matter, it's also fair to point out if certain people at MU or noted Alum had those feelings it could put Buzz in a situation where he feels he's best off to leave MU.  My guess is in the next few years we (fans) are going to be talking about ways to keep him, not placing ridiculous demands on him, and Willie will find someone else to try and bring down.  Enjoy life a little...

Thank you for your opinion. We probably need to sit together like one party is proposing for the State of The Union so we may sing kumbaya together. You seem to miss the point that some people look at everything through rose colored glasses and are blissfully pleased when we slam a cupcake, but then want to quickly forget a meltdown.
Your guess is as good as mine as to what fans are going to be talking about to keep Buzz. I hope we remember that with the kind of money he is making that meltdowns like this should not happen. It was one of the biggest on record according to some of the info posted here.

[willie warrior]

Yes, you can criticize.   But if some of the posts from the last couple days are to be believed, then there are posters here who think he should go.   Here is their chance to make their points.    And of all the ridiculous crap the last two days you call THIS one stupid?    Wow. 

I guess that some of those posters are entitled to their opinion. I haven't seen too many asking for Buzz to be fired--just a lot of disappointment in decision making. But people are entitled to their opinion--unless somebody else has thought police power.

[warthog-driver]

Better question ... who gets more out of the current line-up ... Buzz or Crean?

A Crean line up would not have this much depth

[mu_hilltopper]

But if some of the posts from the last couple days are to be believed, then there are posters here who think he should go.   

I haven't read every post over the past 2-3 days.  Could you link to a post where someone is suggesting Buzz be fired? 

I guess I've read a lot about people blaming the coach for this epic choke-job, but I never read anyone saying anything close to "he should be fired."   .. So if you could point that out, it'd be appreciated.

[MUCam]

So glad another thread goes in this direction   

The irony in your lamentation of someone beating a dead horse is so thick it is suffocating.

[TJ]

A Crean line up would not have this much depth

This is depth?  We only play 7 guys with any regularity - DJO, Butler, Buycks, Crowder, Otule, Blue, and Cadougan.

[ChicosBailBonds]

The irony in your lamentation of someone beating a dead horse is so thick it is suffocating.

My post had nothing to do with a deadhorse or the topic. 

I was simply showing again how 99% of the time when these threads start to introduce our former coach, it sure as hell isn't me starting it but I'll get blamed for it anyway by the same 4 or 5 people.

[Lennys Tap]

My post had nothing to do with a deadhorse or the topic.  

I was simply showing again how 99% of the time when these threads start to introduce our former coach, it sure as hell isn't me starting it but I'll get blamed for it anyway by the same 4 or 5 people.

Chicos once again playing the victim in a thread where noone has blamed him or will blame him for anything.