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Off the top of my head, this makes at least four mid-season transfers (Smith of MU, Phillips of ISU and Joesph of Minn are the other three).

Happens all the time and when it does, no one should be surprised.

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http://sports.espn.go.com/ncb/news/story?id=5992596

California freshman guard Gary Franklin has decided to leave Cal and transfer to a different school, head coach Mike Montgomery announced Wednesday.

"Gary Franklin informed us [Tuesday] morning that he was interested in transferring and he has left the team," Montgomery said. "We wish Gary well. We're disappointed, but we wish him well."

Through 13 games this season, 11 of which he started, Franklin was fifth on the team in scoring, averaging 8.2 points per game. He had converted 24 of his 82 three-point attempts.

Franklin's father, Gary Franklin Sr., confirmed the news Wednesday.

"He's leaving," Franklin Sr. said.

Franklin came off the bench in the team's most recent games against Hartford and Stanford, with the Bears inserting sophomore point guard Brandon Smith in the lineup and moving junior Jorge Gutierrez to shooting guard.

The 6-foot-2 Franklin was one of the most sought-after point guard recruits in the nation coming out of Mater Dei High School in Santa Ana, Calif.

Cal, the defending Pac-10 champion, is 7-6 this season and left with eight available scholarship players.

ChicosBailBonds

It happens "all the time" to some programs.  We could just as easily publish all the schools it didn't happen to and there would be a much longer list.

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kmwtrucks

from jeff Goodmans Twitter earlier today:

According to multiple reports, Gary Franklin leaving Cal. Not a smart move & one that won't help Bears. More than 60 guys leaving at break.

ChicosBailBonds

I'd expect him to go to SDSU, UNLV or potentially Baylor.  At least that's what some are saying out here on the coast.  He's not a "school" guy, either.  In other words, he thinks he's going to the Association and doesn't want to play anywhere for four years in college. 

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well if he goes to unlv that would eliminate Reggie's best potential option.
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Dr. Blackheart

Quote from: ChicosBailBonds on January 05, 2011, 10:37:29 PM
It happens "all the time" to some programs.  We could just as easily publish all the schools it didn't happen to and there would be a much longer list.

A couple of week's old already and I cannot find an update (no Reggie yet), but here is Goodman's mid-seaon transfer list.  Back then there were already 40 guys on the list. 

http://jeffgoodman.yardbarker.com/blog/jeffgoodman/mid_season_transfer_list/3831874

77ncaachamps

Quote from: Dr. Blackheart on January 05, 2011, 11:48:28 PM
 

A couple of week's old already and I cannot find an update (no Reggie yet), but here is Goodman's mid-seaon transfer list.  Back then there were already 40 guys on the list. 

http://jeffgoodman.yardbarker.com/blog/jeffgoodman/mid_season_transfer_list/3831874

Maybe if they get 100 recruits to transfer, they all win a lifetime supply of Taco Bell chalupas.
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ChicosBailBonds

Quote from: Dr. Blackheart on January 05, 2011, 11:48:28 PM
 

A couple of week's old already and I cannot find an update (no Reggie yet), but here is Goodman's mid-seaon transfer list.  Back then there were already 40 guys on the list.  

http://jeffgoodman.yardbarker.com/blog/jeffgoodman/mid_season_transfer_list/3831874

Yup....but with 345 DI teams with 13 players each squad, that's almost 4,500 players.  You get the idea.  Now, let's say for kicks that 25% are seniors that can't transfer, that leaves about 3350 that could transfer...you could even go so far as to only include Freshmen and Sophomores and now you're at 2,250 players eligible to transfer.  

Yes, it happens "all the time" but there are a number of schools where it happens very little or maybe once or twice in a decade and yet they are top 40 programs.

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Quote from: 77ncaachamps on January 05, 2011, 11:56:17 PM
Maybe if they get 100 recruits to transfer, they all win a lifetime supply of Taco Bell chalupas.

well since we contributed I feel we too are entitled to chalupas.
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dw3dw3dw3

Quote from: ChicosBailBonds on January 06, 2011, 12:01:44 AM
Yup....but with 345 DI teams with 13 players each squad, that's almost 4,500 players.  You get the idea.  Now, let's say for kicks that 25% are seniors that can't transfer, that leaves about 3350 that could transfer...you could even go so far as to only include Freshmen and Sophomores and now you're at 2,250 players eligible to transfer.  

Yes, it happens "all the time" but there are a number of schools where it happens very little or maybe once or twice in a decade and yet they are top 40 programs.

I can't really figure out what you are trying to say... why don't you explain it again.

GGGG

Gary Frankin was one of the teamates profiled in this book that I am reading right now:

http://georgedohrmann.com/

If I recall correctly, this will be the third or fourth kid from the 7th grade national AAU champion to transfer within one year of college.  Grassroots ball has really screwed up a lot of kids.

PuertoRicanNightmare

Chicos - Are trying to say transfers started under Buzz? I certainly hope not.

LCDutchman

Chicos has been a Buzz critic since Buzz was hired.  Transfers are a fact of life in major programs.  Buzz has done a great job since he was hired.  I support him as do most alumni who regularly attend games and make donations more that their hat size to the university.  That excludes certain clowns who still yearn for the return of the tanning booth king.
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ChicosBailBonds

Quote from: PuertoRicanNightmare on January 06, 2011, 08:33:29 AM
Chicos - Are trying to say transfers started under Buzz? I certainly hope not.

Hell no, in fact I've said time and time again it's been going on at MU for the last decade...most of it coached by the previous guy.


LC...you still haven't paid off your bet?  Why do you welsh on your bets?

MauraDay

Quote from: The Sultan of South Wayne on January 06, 2011, 08:20:36 AM
Gary Frankin was one of the teamates profiled in this book that I am reading right now:

http://georgedohrmann.com/

If I recall correctly, this will be the third or fourth kid from the 7th grade national AAU champion to transfer within one year of college.  Grassroots ball has really screwed up a lot of kids.

I got the book for Christmas, and loved it. I could not put it down.

Lennys Tap

Quote from: PuertoRicanNightmare on January 06, 2011, 08:33:29 AM
Chicos - Are trying to say transfers started under Buzz? I certainly hope not.

In one of the great coincidences of our time Chicos "got religion" in April of 2008. Things that he had overlooked or defended (Saunders, transfers,etc) became practices that caused weeping, gnashing of teeth, and,of course, a great deal of squirming.

ken8406

Quote from: The Sultan of South Wayne on January 06, 2011, 08:20:36 AM
Gary Frankin was one of the teamates profiled in this book that I am reading right now:

http://georgedohrmann.com/

If I recall correctly, this will be the third or fourth kid from the 7th grade national AAU champion to transfer within one year of college.  Grassroots ball has really screwed up a lot of kids.
I got that book too. The funny thing is Andrew Bock and Demetrius Walker from that book already transfered too.

Nukem2

In any event, I don't believe MU has a scholie to give Franklin or anyone else.  Scholies are for one year, so MU does not have one to give as Reggie's scholie is still on the books.

GGGG

No, they can give someone a scholie right now.  Scholarships are for one year if the student is enrolled.  Since Smith isn't enrolled, it does free up something for a mid-year transfer.

StillAWarrior

Quote from: The Sultan of South Wayne on January 06, 2011, 10:26:58 AM
No, they can give someone a scholie right now.  Scholarships are for one year if the student is enrolled.  Since Smith isn't enrolled, it does free up something for a mid-year transfer.

Not saying they should, but could they also give Frozena a scholarship for his final semester?  Aside from the cost of the scholarship, that wouldn't affect our recruiting or roster in any way, would it?
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texaswarrior74

He's a SG in a PG body......

Chicos

What's with all the Mater Dei guys and transferring? The Wears last year, now this.......are they overrated coming out of HS?

Lennys Tap

Quote from: The Sultan of South Wayne on January 06, 2011, 10:26:58 AM
No, they can give someone a scholie right now.  Scholarships are for one year if the student is enrolled.  Since Smith isn't enrolled, it does free up something for a mid-year transfer.

So we could take a transfer and have him eligible for the 2nd semester next year. Interesting.

ChicosBailBonds

Quote from: Lennys Tap on January 06, 2011, 10:15:24 AM
In one of the great coincidences of our time Chicos "got religion" in April of 2008. Things that he had overlooked or defended (Saunders, transfers,etc) became practices that caused weeping, gnashing of teeth, and,of course, a great deal of squirming.

Transfers don't cause squirming....other things certainly do.


And yes, I gave the benefit of the doubt to a Final Four coach who rebuilt MU.  Hypocritical?  Yup.

I was told, here, by certain posters, that when the old regime went things would change.  Transfers would stop, missing out on recruits and making reaches for them would stop, etc, etc......

Carry on Dr. House


Nukem2

Quote from: The Sultan of South Wayne on January 06, 2011, 10:26:58 AM
No, they can give someone a scholie right now.  Scholarships are for one year if the student is enrolled.  Since Smith isn't enrolled, it does free up something for a mid-year transfer.
Think you are wrong.  IWB has pointed this out in the past.

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