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LastWarrior

Very loud and full today.  Good work... Keep it up!
"The Lord is a Warrior" - Exodus 15:3

chren21

Could still be a lot better. But it would help if the team would play with energy

KipsBayEagle

That arena plays a big part in it.  Our fans look absolutely terrible on tv, the alums sit down the whole game, half weren't in gold.  I know it brings in a lot of money selling those seats to alum's but dear god, let the students get a little closer.

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Quote from: KipsBayEagle on December 11, 2010, 03:58:43 PM
That arena plays a big part in it.  Our fans look absolutely terrible on tv, the alums sit down the whole game, half weren't in gold.  I know it brings in a lot of money selling those seats to alum's but dear god, let the students get a little closer.

Yeah, until they fill the student section 95 percent every game, let's not even talk about that.

ChicosBailBonds

Quote from: marqptm on December 11, 2010, 04:03:12 PM
Yeah, until they fill the student section 95 percent every game, let's not even talk about that.

After today's loss, they will be sparse for awhile until this team finds a way to win and play consistently.  Unfortunate, but I think that's the case.

Steve Buscemi

Quote from: marqptm on December 11, 2010, 04:03:12 PM
Yeah, until they fill the student section 95 percent every game, let's not even talk about that.

Please... we're not gonna fill UWGB, because people have studying to do...  I'm sorry we're not the '77 student body (no block party, obvi.)...  Its so easy to look back and criticize, but until we have a pep rally to tell students what to do per chant, 'The Gold' will continue to be uncoordinated, uncaring and drunk.
"I work out twice a day, six days a week and on Sunday I go to church."  -John Dawson

LastWarrior

All bull crap!  I don't care what it looked like on tv.  I've been critical in the past but I was there today and they were great.  U can't blame them for the uninspired play.  The students showed up... I wish Buzz and the players did as well.
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Tugg Speedman

Off the cuff ... MU undergrad enrollment is 8100.  http://www.marquette.edu/about/studentdemo.shtml'

The Bradley Center seats 19k.

Our arena is 234% the size of our undergrad enrollment.  

Name me a school that has an arena 234% the size of their undergrad enrollment and "packs the place" every night?

Duke has 6200 undergrads http://admissions.duke.edu/jump/pdf/Quick_Facts.pdf

Cameron Indoor seats 9300 http://www.goduke.com/ViewArticle.dbml?DB_OEM_ID=4200&ATCLID=218099
or about 150% of undergrad emrollment.  The student section (which is what you see on TV) only seats 3500.  So Duke brealy needs half the undergrads to go to the game to "pack the place."

MU is fine.  

chren21

Quote from: AnotherMU84 on December 11, 2010, 06:25:41 PM
MU is fine.  

Does that mean we should just be satisfied then?  I agree it was good and our attendance figures are usually top 15. I just think we should strive for more. The potential in there today was huge and no one is stepping up to take it to the next level. In the words of my guy DJO on here if I hear the chant G- O- go warriors go or some of the other really lame cheers we still do, " I will puke."

MerrittsMustache

Good turn out from the students but it was completely embarassing in pre-game when the students started chanting "Over-rated!" at an unranked opponent.

Are they overrated by being in the "Others Receiving Votes" category?

muhoosier260

Quote from: marqptm on December 11, 2010, 04:03:12 PM
Yeah, until they fill the student section 95 percent every game, let's not even talk about that.

don't bet on it

nyg

Quote from: AnotherMU84 on December 11, 2010, 06:25:41 PM
Off the cuff ... MU undergrad enrollment is 8100.  http://www.marquette.edu/about/studentdemo.shtml'

The Bradley Center seats 19k.

Our arena is 234% the size of our undergrad enrollment.  

Name me a school that has an arena 234% the size of their undergrad enrollment and "packs the place" every night?

Duke has 6200 undergrads http://admissions.duke.edu/jump/pdf/Quick_Facts.pdf

Cameron Indoor seats 9300 http://www.goduke.com/ViewArticle.dbml?DB_OEM_ID=4200&ATCLID=218099
or about 150% of undergrad emrollment.  The student section (which is what you see on TV) only seats 3500.  So Duke brealy needs half the undergrads to go to the game to "pack the place."

MU is fine.  

Was watching Louisville game today and they mentioned UL has 21,000 season ticket holders, along with 71 luxury suites sell-outs.  Now that's pretty impressive. 

brewcity77

There's still a big need for organization. Simply yelling and screaming won't get anyone to miss a free throw. It's the coordinated movements that alter the background perspective that can actually impact a visiting shooter.

And today was an exception by far. The student section the past month has been probably 40% vacant. This was the only game where they really filled it up, and my guess is we won't see that again until New Year's Day at the earliest.

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Quote from: 1001 N. 4th St. on December 11, 2010, 04:21:17 PM
Please... we're not gonna fill UWGB, because people have studying to do...  I'm sorry we're not the '77 student body (no block party, obvi.)...  Its so easy to look back and criticize, but until we have a pep rally to tell students what to do per chant, 'The Gold' will continue to be uncoordinated, uncaring and drunk.


Please...its this kind of mentality that won't get you any closer, and the students should not be. I'm a 2008 alum and during my tenure UWGB is a better game than half our conference foes: SLU, TCU, Southern Miss, etc.

I've always been a proponent of contracting the size of the student sections to create a demand, but the AD never felt the same.

2012 Warrior

Would AD ever consider contracting and moving possibly?

hit two birds with one stone

brewcity77

Quote from: Mrqt3three4ever on December 11, 2010, 09:17:48 PM
Would AD ever consider contracting and moving possibly?

hit two birds with one stone

Only if it'd make us more money. First off, there's really no where else to put a stadium on campus, unless you convince someone to raze Valley Field. Second, it'd hard to imagine us cutting down to a 12,000-seater, spending the money to build it, and making more money annually than we are currently at the BC. And when I say making more, I mean making enough more to offset the building costs. Just can't see it happening.

MUBurrow

after spending a lot of time in that student section over the years and now watching on TV, I think it will be next to impossible to make that student section look good on TV.  I wasn't at the game today, so I don't know how about how loud they were today vs years past.  But given the awkward spacing of the sections (especially the corner sections) @ the BC, and the fact that even the lower bowl sections have a lot of rows with under a dozen seats and wide aisles, the section just doesn't look great on TV.
Another aspect, I wonder if the positioning of TV cameras in pro arenas like the Bradley, where TV audiences don't look for crowds in the same way as in college events plays a part. Watching in some smaller college arenas, the cameras seem lower to the court and thus get a more panoramic court/crowd view.  No idea if this is true, just total conjecture.

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Quote from: Mrqt3three4ever on December 11, 2010, 09:17:48 PM
Would AD ever consider contracting and moving possibly?

hit two birds with one stone

We were somewhat close on a 'bow-tie' seating for the students. Instead of the two sections down low they have now, they would have one with the opposite section across the court. This would then extend all the way to the rafters.

Tugg Speedman

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Quote from: nyg on December 11, 2010, 07:40:52 PM
Was watching Louisville game today and they mentioned UL has 21,000 season ticket holders, along with 71 luxury suites sell-outs.  Now that's pretty impressive.  

Freedom hall holds 20,091 and averaged 19,397 last year.  http://www.uoflsports.com/facilities/lou-facilities-freedom-hall.html

So, it is 5% to 7% larger than the BC

U of L has 15,125 undergraduates  http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/University_of_Louisville ... almost twice the size of MU's undergrad enrollment.

Double the size of MU and you will double the amount of students in the BC.  Then everyone on this board would rave how supportive the kids are.

As I noted before, MU needs a higher percentage of undergrads to go to games given its stadium is 234% the size of its undergrad enrollment.  I wonder how many of the so-called "rabid fan" schools would be able to fill a stadium that is 234% the size of its undergrad enrollment like MU does?


Brewtown Andy

Quote from: AnotherMU84 on December 11, 2010, 10:41:10 PM
As I noted before, MU needs a higher percentage of undergrads to go to games given its stadium is 234% the size of its undergrad enrollment.  I wonder how many of the so-called "rabid fan" schools would be able to fill a stadium that is 234% the size of its undergrad enrollment like MU does?

Let's look at Georgetown for a comparison. They play in a NBA arena that's slightly bigger than the BC and have a undergrad student body of just over 7K. What does their attendence look like?
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Steve Buscemi

Quote from: marqptm on December 11, 2010, 08:45:57 PM
Please...its this kind of mentality that won't get you any closer, and the students should not be. I'm a 2008 alum and during my tenure UWGB is a better game than half our conference foes: SLU, TCU, Southern Miss, etc.

I've always been a proponent of contracting the size of the student sections to create a demand, but the AD never felt the same.

UWGB was an example... You're not going to fill the student section for that or the SLU game...
"I work out twice a day, six days a week and on Sunday I go to church."  -John Dawson

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Quote from: 1001 N. 4th St. on December 12, 2010, 03:12:42 AM
UWGB was an example... You're not going to fill the student section for that or the SLU game...

chren21

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Quote from: Brewtown Andy on December 12, 2010, 02:12:21 AM
Let's look at Georgetown for a comparison. They play in a NBA arena that's slightly bigger than the BC and have a undergrad student body of just over 7K. What does their attendence look like?

http://www.ncaa.org/wps/wcm/connect/8753820042742b01b8b6be967b4a3893/Awide_Mbkbattlists.pdf?MOD=AJPERES&CACHEID=8753820042742b01b8b6be967b4a3893


09-10 - MU was 10, Georgetown was 29

Tugg Speedman

MU 8100 undergrad enrollment http://www.marquette.edu/about/studentdemo.shtml'
G-Town 7092 undergrad enrollment http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Georgetown_University

Population of metro Milwaukee 1.7 million http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Milwaukee_metropolitan_area
Population of metro DC 5.4 million http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Washington,_D.C.

Bradley Center seats 19k

The Verizon Center seats 20,173 http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Verizon_Center

2010 MU attendance was #10 at 15,617
2010 GT attendance was #29 at 12,040

So MU plays in an arena about the same size as Gtown, has an undergrad enrollment about the same size but the Milwaukee metro area is about 1/4 size of DC.

Conclusion - MU fans and the Metro area are far more supportive than G-Town.  We have more rabid fans.




Hards Alumni

Quote from: AnotherMU84 on December 12, 2010, 08:24:01 AM
Conclusion - MU fans and the Metro area are far more supportive than G-Town.  We have more rabid fans.

maybe, but this is a situation where there are a lot more variables.

making it this cut and dry is just not true.

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