I didn't realize it was largely our fault the UW-M game didn't sell out

[2TimeWarrior]

Sorry the facts are the facts in when they sold tickets for the game.

You're right, Panther, UW-M should sell every game the exact same way regardless of whether they are playing Duke at home or UW-Fond du Lac.  It has sure worked well for them so far based on their attendance numbers!

[Mr. Nielsen]

You're right, Panther, UW-M should sell every game the exact same way regardless of whether they are playing Duke at home or UW-Fond du Lac.  It has sure worked well for them so far based on their attendance numbers!

Come'on, Duke and UW-Fond du Lac.
We are talking Badgers and MU.

Like I said UW-UWM, they sold singles only two days before the game and over 10,000. MU-UWM three weeks before, they thought it would be a sell-out. What else do you want me to say, I don't work for UWM, I never went to school at UWM and I have no family that went to UWM. I can only go by the numbers in terms how they did it before.

[2TimeWarrior]

Come'on, Duke and UW-Fond du Lac.

We are talking Badgers and MU.

According to your argument, facts are facts.  The only thing that matters is when the tickets went on sale and it isn't important to consider other issues that may come into play.

[Mr. Nielsen]

According to your argument, facts are facts.  The only thing that matters is when the tickets went on sale and it isn't important to consider other issues that may come into play.

I agree, I can't do anything about it.

It's easy to be Monday morning QB!

[StillAWarrior]

Like I said UW-UWM, they sold singles only two days before the game and over 10,000. MU-UWM three weeks before, they thought it would be a sell-out. What else do you want me to say, I don't work for UWM, I never went to school at UWM and I have no family that went to UWM. I can only go by the numbers in terms how they did it before.

Not sure why everyone's jumping on you.

Obviously, UWM miscalculated.  They thought it would be a sell out and it wasn't.  If they ever have another chance to host MU (and I hope they don't), I imagine they'll do things differently if they want to fill the building.

[ChicosBailBonds]

FOUR YEARS THIS GAME WAS IN THE MAKING

7,000 PEOPLE SHOWED UP


VERY FEW PEOPLE CARE!!!

[Mr. Nielsen]

Schedules don't come out to the fans untill Labor Day.

[mu-rara]

It's not UW-M, it's Milwaukee, UWM or UW-Milwaukee

It's only Milwaukee to UW-M marketers...to the rest of us it's UW-M (or UWM, I don't care)

[Mr. Nielsen]

It's only Milwaukee to UW-M marketers...to the rest of us it's UW-M (or UWM, I don't care)

If you don't care why did you talk about it?

[ChicosBailBonds]

Schedules don't come out to the fans untill Labor Day.

So what....4 years ago UWM fans knew this game was going to be played.  It was the game of the century, the JS and the talk shows got their demands met, UWM fans were going to have MU at home...come on!!

There are more UWM alums in Milwaukee than MU has in the entire STATE.

When you get this once in 50 year opportunity you have to get your butts over there.  I don't care if the actual schedule came out in August \ September, you have to find a way.  7,000 is AWFUL!

[GGGG]

Everyone knows the issue with UWM as a whole.  It is bascially a commuter school that most of their students treat as an extension of high school.  That type of relationship does not generate a great deal of fan support during times when the basketball program isn't good.  

They have been trying to "reimage" itself as a residential school with a great campus life, but everything I have seen is that this effort is meeting with at best mixed results.  The campus is in a pretty dull neighborhood and when 80% of the students leave everyday, only so much excitement can be generated.  OTOH, they have increased their six year graduation rate from 33 to 43% over the past ten years...and that really isn't bad considering the type of institution it is.

[Mr. Nielsen]

So what....4 years ago UWM fans knew this game was going to be played.  It was the game of the century, the JS and the talk shows got their demands met, UWM fans were going to have MU at home...come on!!

There are more UWM alums in Milwaukee than MU has in the entire STATE.

When you get this once in 50 year opportunity you have to get your butts over there.  I don't care if the actual schedule came out in August \ September, you have to find a way.  7,000 is AWFUL!

Everyones to balm!

[hairy worthen]

So what....4 years ago UWM fans knew this game was going to be played.  It was the game of the century, the JS and the talk shows got their demands met, UWM fans were going to have MU at home...come on!!

There are more UWM alums in Milwaukee than MU has in the entire STATE.

When you get this once in 50 year opportunity you have to get your butts over there.  I don't care if the actual schedule came out in August \ September, you have to find a way.  7,000 is AWFUL!

Estimating that 1/2 the people in attendance were MU fans. That makes 3500 and that is not only awful, but embarrassing

[GGGG]

Guys making fun of UWM basketball is like making fun of the retarded kid at school.  It is starting to look a little unseemly.

[Mr. Nielsen]

Everyone knows the issue with UWM as a whole.  It is bascially a commuter school that most of their students treat as an extension of high school.  That type of relationship does not generate a great deal of fan support during times when the basketball program isn't good.  

They have been trying to "reimage" itself as a residential school with a great campus life, but everything I have seen is that this effort is meeting with at best mixed results.  The campus is in a pretty dull neighborhood and when 80% of the students leave everyday, only so much excitement can be generated.  OTOH, they have increased their six year graduation rate from 33 to 43% over the past ten years...and that really isn't bad considering the type of institution it is.

Bottomline it is a commuter school that's been D1 since 1990, but really did not come on the radar untill 2001 or 2003, if you say when Bo Ryan or Pearl got there.

UWM is now on 1130 WISN and a post-game radio show from Major's G.
UWM is on TWC32 for it's games. Not to long ago they where not on tv.

[Mr. Nielsen]

Estimating that 1/2 the people in attendance were MU fans. That makes 3500 and that is not only awful, but embarrassing

I don't think anyone can say half the crowd was MU.

[hairy worthen]

I don't think anyone can say half the crowd was MU.

I wasn't there, (didn't interest me) but from accounts I heard on this board and elsewhere the estimate was about 1/2. Lets say it was 70/30 thats still 4900 and that still falls in the embarrassing range imo.

[GGGG]

Bottomline it is a commuter school that's been D1 since 1990, but really did not come on the radar untill 2001 or 2003, if you say when Bo Ryan or Pearl got there.

UWM is now on 1130 WISN and a post-game radio show from Major's G.
UWM is on TWC32 for it's games. Not to long ago they where not on tv.

Every program has a radio deal and most programs now have television deals even if it is with local cable companies.  I work at a (bad) D2 school whose games are on local cable.  This is more a case of the need for content more than it is increase in interest.  In fact, I wouldn't doubt that UWM gets no, or very little, "rights" for these games...and may even have to pay.

[ChicosBailBonds]

I don't think anyone can say half the crowd was MU.

Your announcers did on the broadcast.


End of the day, if UW-M wanted to show their colors, show that this game deserved to be played, deserved to be located at UW-M, then you have to do better than 3,500 to 4,000 UW-M fans.

It is NOT MU's responsibility to pack YOUR GYMNASIUM.  This illusion created by UW-M fans that this is somehow MU's fault is comical.  It's YOUR HOME GAME.  Four years in preparation.  A "guaranteed" sellout.

[Mr. Nielsen]

Are you saying "your" as toward myself or UWM?

[Mr. Nielsen]

I wasn't there, (didn't interest me) but from accounts I heard on this board and elsewhere the estimate was about 1/2. Lets say it was 70/30 thats still 4900 and that still falls in the embarrassing range imo.

That's to bad you didn't go, you miss a fun game. We could of used you.

[Brewtown Andy]

It is NOT MU's responsibility to pack YOUR GYMNASIUM. 

Especially for a game where they have no financial gain.

[hairy worthen]

That's to bad you didn't go, you miss a fun game. We could of used you.

I attended UWM and the sight of their fans cheering against MU like they just won the NCAA Championship made my skin crawl. I am not sure I could bear that in person.

[Mr. Nielsen]

Especially for a game where they have no financial gain.

Is it's MU responsibility? No, but where are the MU fans to just support Marquette.

[Informed Opinion]

UWM  made the tickets hard to obtain at least the best seats poor marketing