2010-2011 NFC North Division

[Dish]

As great as Favre was to start his career at Soldier Field, a rough ending for him. Lost three in a row, four out of his last five in Chicago. Overall, Bears are 8-3 in their last 11 games vs the old man.

[MerrittsMustache]

As great as Favre was to start his career at Soldier Field, a rough ending for him. Lost three in a row, four out of his last five in Chicago. Overall, Bears are 8-3 in their last 11 games vs the old man.

I don't remember the exact numbers but there was a recent stretch of 3-4 games where vs Chicago, Favre threw more TDs to the Bears than to his own team. He has really fallen quickly from an icon to a punchline.

Even as a Bears fan, I'm still not totally convinced that the Bears are any good. However, I am pretty convinced that the Vikings' sexboat has sailed for this season. If Chilly really wants to prove he's in charge of that team, he'd bench Favre.

[NavinRJohnson]

Its too late for Chilly. He's toast anyway.

[MU B2002]

I don't remember the exact numbers but there was a recent stretch of 3-4 games where vs Chicago, Favre threw more TDs to the Bears than to his own team. He has really fallen quickly from an icon to a punchline.

And it's funny how he limps around until he throws a TD and then he is running and doing flying chest bumps on the sideline.

Vikings would be twice as good at this point with Tjax.  Might as well see what the kid has, I mean Chilly picked him up to mold him into McNabb 2.0.

[mu-rara]

Why doesn't JB appear after Viking disasters?

[Canned Goods n Ammo]

And it's funny how he limps around until he throws a TD and then he is running and doing flying chest bumps on the sideline.

Vikings would be twice as good at this point with Tjax.  Might as well see what the kid has, I mean Chilly picked him up to mold him into McNabb 2.0.

I'm not sure they would be any better with Tavaris.

Truth is, it's easy (and fun) to blame #4, but he doesn't deserve that much blame for yesterday.

Tavaris can't make the receivers catch the ball (3 drops) and he can't prevent receivers from falling down (happened on both picks).

I'm not a Favre apologist, but let's be fair about his performance. The Vikes defensive line was the primary culprit yesterday. They got 0 pressure on Cutler, and it made him look pretty good.

With this said, Brett hasn't been very good, and the season is over for the Vikes. It's time for a change in the coaching staff and leadership.

[MU B2002]

Truth is, it's easy (and fun) to blame #4, but he doesn't deserve that much blame for yesterday.

I agree with you, and I am not putting the blame on Brett, but as you said this season is over.  Favre is done, so why not see what you have in Tavaris.  There is no reason to play at this point for Brett except to pad his stats (TDs and Ints).  If Travaris does well, plan on him being the guy next year, if not start scouting 1st round QBs.

[Canned Goods n Ammo]

I agree with you, and I am not putting the blame on Brett, but as you said this season is over.  Favre is done, so why not see what you have in Tavaris.  There is no reason to play at this point for Brett except to pad his stats (TDs and Ints).  If Travaris does well, plan on him being the guy next year, if not start scouting 1st round QBs.

On this, we agree.

I don't think it will happen though. Brett will be given a chance to start every game, and Tavaris might get some shots in the 2nd half. I guess I can live with that.

[MerrittsMustache]

I'm not sure they would be any better with Tavaris.

Truth is, it's easy (and fun) to blame #4, but he doesn't deserve that much blame for yesterday.

Tavaris can't make the receivers catch the ball (3 drops) and he can't prevent receivers from falling down (happened on both picks).

I'm not a Favre apologist, but let's be fair about his performance. The Vikes defensive line was the primary culprit yesterday. They got 0 pressure on Cutler, and it made him look pretty good.

With this said, Brett hasn't been very good, and the season is over for the Vikes. It's time for a change in the coaching staff and leadership.

Agree with you on the drops, but the receivers fell down a few times because the passes were thrown behind them (including Shiancoe on the third pick) and the turf was bad. The fumble was the type of play that should never happen to a QB with more than 2-3 years of playing experience, let alone 20. Favre obviously wasn't the main reason they lost, but he didn't do much to help them win either.

[Canned Goods n Ammo]

Agree with you on the drops, but the receivers fell down a few times because the passes were thrown behind them (including Shiancoe on the third pick) and the turf was bad. The fumble was the type of play that should never happen to a QB with more than 2-3 years of playing experience, let alone 20. Favre obviously wasn't the main reason they lost, but he didn't do much to help them win either.

The fumble was certainly on him. He needed to chuck it sooner and be more conservative. He was trying too hard to extend the play. He has to know the situation there and be smarter.  

The shancoe pick was because it was thrown a little behind him, that wasn't a great throw. The AP pick wasn't thrown behind him, it was right at him, but he was already on the ground, and then it was picked. I really don't know who you blame there. I guess AP because he slipped, but that's just one of those things. What do you say to a guy? Don't slip!

Again, I don't say these things to make Brett look better, I'm just trying to be fair because the easy gut reaction is just to say "Favre blew it" because sports fans love to pin victories and losses on QBs.

Truthfully, Favre was average. Cutler was above average, and made some great throws on 3rd down, which I think was the key to the game.

[MUEng92]

I only watched about five minutes of the game but I am pretty sure it was 100% Favre's fault

[mu-rara]

Calling Jay Bee,  Jay Bee.....  Calling JayBee....Jay Bee

15 yards for taunting.......

[Sir Lawrence]

Nice win for the Bears last night.  Boring as hell, but a nice win.  I'm a Packers fan, so take that for what it's worth, but I just can't seem to be impressed by Chicago.  Every win they have has been rather pedestrian looking.  But they do keep on winning......

Edit:  Congratulations on franchise win #700.  Gotta love the "old guard" of the NFL.

[MU B2002]

I was at the game last night, couldn't believe the Bears turnout.  I would say 60-40 Bears fans.  But that was a HORRIBLE game by the fins.  No adjustments, no spark. 

[Moonboots]

Nice win for the Bears last night.  Boring as hell, but a nice win.  I'm a Packers fan, so take that for what it's worth, but I just can't seem to be impressed by Chicago.  Every win they have has been rather pedestrian looking.  But they do keep on winning......

Edit:  Congratulations on franchise win #700.  Gotta love the "old guard" of the NFL.

Definite congrats to the Bears on 700. Huge respect for that franchise.

But I do agree with your point. They aren't winning games pretty, but they're winning them. It's a good formula for them right now. Looking at it objectively, their schedule has been pretty cake, and their only real quality win came against Green Bay. None of that matters, because they're confident now going into a stretch of more difficult games (Eagles, Patriots, Jets, Packers) and the front 7 is playing lights out ball.

That being said, I'm not sure the "suffocate bad offenses and watch Cutler flounder his way to FGs" strategy is the ideal way to win once the playoffs roll around. A lot can happen before then. I like that suspense that the stretch run is bringing in this division. Especially after the Pack puts the Vikes down into the basement with the Lions tomorrow.

[MerrittsMustache]

The Bears definitely have the toughest part of their schedule ahead of them and I'm worried that the Seattle or Washington loss is going to come back to bite them. I can't see them beating NE or the Jets but they should beat Minnesota and Detroit (getting them 9 wins). Their key games are going to be against Philly and GB. If they can win either one of those, they should be in the Playoffs. Historically they've done well against Vick, especially in Chicago in the cold weather, on the horrible turf. Needless to say, I'll be rooting for cold weather in Chicago next Sunday!

[Jay Bee]

Been waiting for the easy part of our schedule for a long time.. it's finally here!  After today, we're still in a tough spot at 4-6, but it will be fun beating up on Grean Bay today.  SKOL VIKINGS!

[Josey Wales]

Been waiting for the easy part of our schedule for a long time.. it's finally here!  After today, we're still in a tough spot at 4-6, but it will be fun beating up on Grean Bay today.  SKOL VIKINGS!

What the hell does skol mean? I used to think you were a tobacco dipper, but I heard someone else say it.

[MU B2002]

I am guessing it is something like Go Pack, but in a Scandanavian dialect.

[WellsstreetWanderer]

Isn't it a toast like CHEERS or SLAINTE'

[Moonboots]

Been waiting for the easy part of our schedule for a long time.. it's finally here!  After today, we're still in a tough spot at 4-6, but it will be fun beating up on Grean Bay today.  SKOL VIKINGS!

Hehehe...

[ChicosBailBonds]

Been waiting for the easy part of our schedule for a long time.. it's finally here!  After today, we're still in a tough spot at 4-6, but it will be fun beating up on Grean Bay today.  SKOL VIKINGS!

Another Favre turnover.  Will the NFL dump all the Stenger stuff this week (like they would on every player in the NFL not named Favre) or will they continue to hide it until the end of the season?

[spiral97]

Been waiting for the easy part of our schedule for a long time.. it's finally here!  After today, we're still in a tough spot at 4-6, but it will be fun beating up on Grean Bay today.  SKOL VIKINGS!

When you say easy you must mean because giving up is easier than even trying.  Enjoy your turkey.

[ATWizJr]

Vikings fans:  your Packer envy is so obvious and will not be rewarded.  No matter how much you wish you were us, you will never be us.  You can plot to hire  our quarterback and diminish his legacy, hire our kicker, sign our safety, hire WI former quarterbacks and coaches, but it only emphasizes your inadequacy to equal us.  No combination of trying to appropriate our talent will make you us. You will never be us but keep trying.  Your pathetic attempts at imitation have failed.   And, it's not going to end well for you, Favre, Childress and Bevell.  

:ll

[GGGG]

I honestly have to wonder why they even keep Brett around at this point.  He was incredibly bad today.  Clearly either too hurt, too old, or both.  He wouldn't make a good back-up and you may as well see what you have in Tavaris.

On another note, I would also fire Chilly and see what Leslie Frazier can do.